Aug 3, 2019, 1:19 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
GS Qualifying for 2020 Discussion
This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
2019 GS Timeline:
- First requalification notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
- First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
- Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
- Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
- First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
If you have received notification about your 2020 GS status, please post in
Global Services 2020 Notifications (ONLY) -- "no discussion" (and as title suggests, this is just for notifications, use this thread for discussions / queries
and
Form Link to collect this years qualification (or rejection) information
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...rm?usp=sf_link
You can view the results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...rm?usp=sf_link
You can view the results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.
Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.
Definitions
BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.
The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.
Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using
PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS
Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.
As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.
One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.
Last year's thread
GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion / Questions
GS Qualifying for 2020 Discussion / Questions
Dec 17, 2019, 7:43 pm
#706
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: UA GS, Amex Centurion, UA 1MM
Posts: 557
I’ve been GS for 3 years out of ORD. Below is the qualifying history. For this year I’m likely to finish the year at PQM 183k and PQD $48k. Nervous about requalifying because the PQM are a bit low, and GS is important to me given frequency of travel (2-3 domestic flights almost every week). All travel this year was on UA Metal, and my travel is Corporate, typically fully refundable. Worth doing a ~$1700 mileage run for another ~17k PQM, and get closer to $50k PQD? seat availability is ugly on the mileage run so I’d be on a long 9 hour flight in middle economy - so would rather not if I don’t need to (never mind the $1700). Would you do it?
2017
PQM 222k
PQD 48k
2018
PQM 198k
PQD 39k
2019
PQM 230k
PQD 56k
2017
PQM 222k
PQD 48k
2018
PQM 198k
PQD 39k
2019
PQM 230k
PQD 56k
yea. Cause they’re no guarantees.
pros. Youre in historical spending for requal
You’re requal vs new so I think that’s a plus.
Refundable fares.
cons. Didn’t get notified yet
sub $50 k this year
ORD hub means more competition
better safe than sorry. But $1900 plus 9 hours as a clam means to me to ask the question how much real value to you get being a GS besides the glory of it all.
Last edited by saccoNY; Dec 17, 2019 at 9:20 pm Reason: Change
Dec 17, 2019, 7:53 pm
#707
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Washington DC
Programs: United 1MM, Marriott Titanium (Lifetime Platinum)
Posts: 320
His three year spend is greater than $100K, not less....
Dec 17, 2019, 8:27 pm
#708
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Somewhere in EWR
Programs: UA GS, HH Diamond
Posts: 858
Many people are actually giving the exact day they received a call or notification on their account. Others can most likely ball park it to a 2-3 days.
Dec 17, 2019, 9:18 pm
#709
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: UA GS, Amex Centurion, UA 1MM
Posts: 557
Dec 18, 2019, 5:19 am
#710
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: UA GS, Bonvoy Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 62
I've seen lots of discussion on GS qualification being determined or "thought" to be determined by home hub competition with SFO and ORD being the toughest.
Question for the experts - how does United determine your home hub?
My home address with United is closest to RIC but I rarely if ever fly out of there as my office is in the DC area. My trips originate fairly evenly between BWI and IAD, and sometimes even EWR depending on where I am and how the schedule looks (traditionally EWR -> NRT arrives much earlier allowing me to make earlier HND transfer than if I took flight from IAD).
I'd be a first time GS qualifier this year if I make it (status prior to 2019 not so great though) and have no idea what I'd be compared to - RIC? IAD? BWI? EWR?
Thoughts?
2019 stats:
Nearly all travel international business
58K PQD (53K United metal)
155K PQM
45 PQS
2018: ~14-15K PQD UA metal
2017: < 5K PQD UA metal
Question for the experts - how does United determine your home hub?
My home address with United is closest to RIC but I rarely if ever fly out of there as my office is in the DC area. My trips originate fairly evenly between BWI and IAD, and sometimes even EWR depending on where I am and how the schedule looks (traditionally EWR -> NRT arrives much earlier allowing me to make earlier HND transfer than if I took flight from IAD).
I'd be a first time GS qualifier this year if I make it (status prior to 2019 not so great though) and have no idea what I'd be compared to - RIC? IAD? BWI? EWR?
Thoughts?
2019 stats:
Nearly all travel international business
58K PQD (53K United metal)
155K PQM
45 PQS
2018: ~14-15K PQD UA metal
2017: < 5K PQD UA metal
Dec 18, 2019, 5:32 am
#711
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: TPA
Programs: UA Global Services 3MM, Hyatt Lifetime Globalist
Posts: 2,927
Dec 18, 2019, 2:58 pm
#712
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Somewhere in EWR
Programs: UA GS, HH Diamond
Posts: 858
My Status currently down for maintenance so probably more invites going out today.
Dec 18, 2019, 5:57 pm
#713
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Chicago, IL
Programs: UA 1K MM, DL Diamond, NK Gold, Mariott LT Plat/Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Gold
Posts: 925
It's up for me and still says check back January 10th.
Dec 18, 2019, 6:08 pm
#714
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 24
Status
Does it only say check back on Jan 10 for existing GS?
Dec 19, 2019, 4:54 am
#716
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: DEN
Programs: UA GS, Marriott Gold
Posts: 174
Also already got the re-up. Since this year was the most crazy year of travel that I will never repeat, it was not a surprise.
Dec 19, 2019, 7:57 am
#717
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: SFO / LHR
Programs: UA GS 2.2MM / UC / AS Gold 75K / Bonvoy Plat / Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,028
Dec 20, 2019, 4:53 am
#718
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 20
2009-2017: 1K every year, PQD in the $15k-$35k. Never qualified for GS
2018: 226K PQM, $48,849 PQD ($46k on United metal). Didn't qualify. Requested review, declined. No challenge offered.
2019: (finished for the year) PQM: 320K, PQD: $64,570. All United Metal. 3 International J trips. Rest domestic first.
Based out of ORD.
Lifetime 1.3m miles
Checked Mystatus.united.com today. Still says Premier 1K. No email or voicemail.
2018: 226K PQM, $48,849 PQD ($46k on United metal). Didn't qualify. Requested review, declined. No challenge offered.
2019: (finished for the year) PQM: 320K, PQD: $64,570. All United Metal. 3 International J trips. Rest domestic first.
Based out of ORD.
Lifetime 1.3m miles
Checked Mystatus.united.com today. Still says Premier 1K. No email or voicemail.
Dec 20, 2019, 7:10 am
#719
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: DFW
Programs: United GS, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, American Gold
Posts: 5
Probably a dumb question but will ask anyways. 1st year as GS and have the Jan 10 message, so just patiently waiting. Since I already have 1K for 2020, will Plus Points be awarded in January or are they only given once I earn 1k again in 2020 for year 2021?
Also, anyone find it funny that I am on the bubble for GS so went ahead and already booked 3 trips for 2020 worth 17,885 PQP? Does this actually come into consideration for this year's review process?
Also, anyone find it funny that I am on the bubble for GS so went ahead and already booked 3 trips for 2020 worth 17,885 PQP? Does this actually come into consideration for this year's review process?
Dec 20, 2019, 8:07 am
#720
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: ORD | LGA | 2E
Programs: UA GS 1.6MM UC | AA CK 0.7MM AC | Bonvoy Ambassador | Hyatt Globalist | Hertz PC
Posts: 1,054
Getting the "down for maintenance" for mystatus this AM.
