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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:21 am
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This is the archive thread, the active thread is Lufthansa GPUs Go Electronic (How to use, will it clear?, issues w/flight credit,...)

For general information on upgrading ANA or Lufthansa flights with a GPU, see Upgrading Flights Operated by ANA or Lufthansa. You actually request the upgrade through the online form, here: Request a GPU for a Select Partner Airline.

Per United web support, you only need to fill in the required* info.

**The LH flight you are upgrading must be an LH flight, not a UA codeshare flight. If you have a UA codeshare flight, you can call websupport and they will (put you on hold and] change your itinerary to one with an LH flight#.

Note that UA websupport might give you a new ticket # when you do the above, but if the original ticket # was 016 UA stock, it will remain so, and thus you will still be earning RDMs at the UA rate (11x for a 1K), not the *A rate. In case of a $6000 biz fare for LAX-FRA that you are trying to upgrade to F for example, as a 1K you would earn 66,000 UA RDM if booked as a UA flight. And even though after booking you get them to change the UA flight # from a UA codeshare flight to an LH flight, the 016 ticket stock sticks, and you earn 66,000 RDMs.

(FYI, had the ticket stock been an LH stock, the RDM's earned would be 5790 miles x 150% = 8685 RDMs. Big difference)

Note that sometimes the online upgrading does not work, and you may get an error message to call an 877 number, which is now defunct but still resides on .bomb...Ignore it and just call web support. They might put you on hold while they call LH but they will get the job done.

Eligible Economy Fares to Apply a GPU

Upgradeable to business fares include U/H/Q the lowest eligible economy fares. G&E the two top premium economy fares and Y/B/M the most expensive economy fares. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24219165-post205.html)
While UA has not changed their T&Cs, LH appears to have expanded the potential fare classes
Originally Posted by oliver2002
For C->F upgrade, J, D, C fares are eligible, Z and P fares are not.
Originally Posted by andywaw
Effective April 20th, 2018, all Lufthansa revenue Business Class fares, including P and Z, are eligible to be upgraded to First Class using miles or eVouchers. ...
LH booking class P, Z upgreadable for miles and eVouchers
Appears this also applies to use of UA GPUs IF booked as native flight number on LH or UA ticket stock.
Presently UA is not converting codeshare to native flight numbers, as required for this process, if P or Z fare
From April to September 2018 it was possible to confirm and waitlist P ,Z-class LH flights with a GPU. Confirming and waitlisting is no now longer possible, but previously waitlisted segments will continue to clear as/if available.

Checking for Upgrade Availability

Upgrades to E, C and F come from the N, I and O fare bucket, but its a subset, which theoretically is not the same as the award subset. If awards are available it is a strong indication the upgrade is available too. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24861289-post342.html)

In case of upgrade clearing but eticket refresh problems:

Originally Posted by oliver2002
Both longhaul LH segments cleared into I after being on waitlist . The first didnt get stickered, so the DCS ( amadeus altea ) rejected online and agent checkin . The eticket helpdesk had to manually update the first coupon for the DCS to accept the coupon. My seat in C was safe, since the PNR was updated correctly, just the ticket was not updated completely to the satisfaction of the DCS. Everyone looking at the booking agreed the upgrade was legit, so you will not be denied boarding or downgraded, just budget enough time
Originally Posted by oliver2002
The LH GA must have called the eticket helpdesk and pointed out the * SSR remark in your reservation that shows an upgrade was applied and the e-ticket just needed a fix/sticker. See my experience above.
Checking for availability prior to calling
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Upgrades to E, C and F come from the N, I and O fare bucket, but its a subset, which theoretically is not the same as the award subset. If awards are available it is a strong indication the upgrade is available too.
Use ANA or even united.com to see availability.

To check if C/F upgrades may open up, ask in this thread: Determining LH Y/C/F loads? [the help me guesstimate loads thread]

Regarding ticket stock, Oliver reports:
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Any ticket stock will do.
Each LH flight segment requires a separate GPU
A single GPU can be used to only upgrade a single LH flight segment, And that GPU cannot be extended to include another LH flight segment or another UA flight segment.


Problems getting mileage credit for upgraded LH segments

Numerous reports of denial of mileage credits (RDMs, PQMs, PQSs, PQDs) for upgraded tickets. This issue is probably due to LH uses the same fare bucket for mileage awards and upgrades. It seems patience, persistence, and documentation of the originally paid fare are needed to get credit.

You probably won't get credit by simply submitting the online form or asking a CSR to do so for you. A CSR needs to submit a System Issue Form, together with the mileage request, explaining that you flew in I class, but you paid for a mileage-earning booking class.

T-10

While the original system did not allow the upgrade waitlist to carry on past t-10 hours, the have been multiple reports that this is no longer the case. If not cleared in advance - the upgrade wait-list will last all the way until the door closing. UA has not updated the text on the LH GPU upgrades to reflect this change.

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Old Apr 2, 2018, 8:35 am
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Waitlist and report back. You’ll be the first with the rule change allowing P and Z class to use a GPU on LH.
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Old Apr 2, 2018, 12:06 pm
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Burnt 4 GPUs in January on a return trip between LAX and BLR all on LH. The outbound flights were C but both return flights were Z and no problem waitlisting or clearing - albeit at the gate.
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Old Apr 2, 2018, 3:44 pm
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Thanks for the quick response. Will wait-list for the return, though not holding my breath (and upper deck on the 747 is not heinous...). How are you all seeing the fare buckets on LH? If it starts to look hopeless for the return, I might switch to the outbound (and how would one do that?).
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Old Apr 2, 2018, 4:08 pm
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Originally Posted by JDT1955
How are you all seeing the fare buckets on LH?
ExpertFlyer, most likely.

Man, if the news about GPUing LH P fares holds true, this is huge
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Old Apr 2, 2018, 4:39 pm
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As a user of GPUs on LH - this makes me happy. As a person who books LH F awards within 14 days, this displeases me. Have to imagine it will become harder to find F awards now that all business class fares are upgrade eligible (UA GPUs and M&M evouchers)
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Old Apr 2, 2018, 4:52 pm
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Originally Posted by JDT1955
How are you all seeing the fare buckets on LH?
Originally Posted by findark
ExpertFlyer, most likely.
Yes, EF.
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Old Apr 2, 2018, 5:23 pm
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wow, the P and Z class is a total game changer. Now that is even less UA across the pond for me. Holy cow. Now, if we can get LX as well ... OMG ... that would be insane.
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Old Apr 10, 2018, 10:50 am
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I'm on a 016 ticket and cleared into O (F) on LH (SFO-BOS-FRA). I'm within the 24h check-in window of the first UA leg. Will that upgrade be taken away when I change the first leg from tomorrow morning to tonight? The 1K hotline said there is a pretty good chance it will be kicked. Any bullet-proof way to make it work?
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Old Apr 10, 2018, 2:10 pm
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Upgrading Lufthansa Premium Economy

Has anybody been successful in upgrading Lufthansa Premium Economy to Business (either using United miles or GPU)?
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Old Apr 10, 2018, 2:19 pm
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Sure -- I have used several GPUs to go from LH premium economy to business...
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Old Apr 10, 2018, 2:28 pm
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Originally Posted by GBadger
Sure -- I have used several GPUs to go from LH premium economy to business...
How exactly? I just tried and it says that ticket class (N) is not eligible...
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Old Apr 10, 2018, 2:32 pm
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Unfortunately, it appears that the only premium economy fare classes that are eligible are G and E. N is not.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...ht-credit.html
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Old Apr 10, 2018, 2:34 pm
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Damn...
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Old Apr 10, 2018, 2:46 pm
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Originally Posted by gruimed
Damn...
Have you booked within 24 hours? regardless, calling UA to upfare it from N to G or E should waive the change fee, at least with UA flights, don't know about partner flights, but worth a try or two since it's a united ticket (I assume?)
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Old Apr 10, 2018, 2:53 pm
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Damn...
At least you'll have a decent seat!
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