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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:21 am
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This is the archive thread, the active thread is Lufthansa GPUs Go Electronic (How to use, will it clear?, issues w/flight credit,...)

For general information on upgrading ANA or Lufthansa flights with a GPU, see Upgrading Flights Operated by ANA or Lufthansa. You actually request the upgrade through the online form, here: Request a GPU for a Select Partner Airline.

Per United web support, you only need to fill in the required* info.

**The LH flight you are upgrading must be an LH flight, not a UA codeshare flight. If you have a UA codeshare flight, you can call websupport and they will (put you on hold and] change your itinerary to one with an LH flight#.

Note that UA websupport might give you a new ticket # when you do the above, but if the original ticket # was 016 UA stock, it will remain so, and thus you will still be earning RDMs at the UA rate (11x for a 1K), not the *A rate. In case of a $6000 biz fare for LAX-FRA that you are trying to upgrade to F for example, as a 1K you would earn 66,000 UA RDM if booked as a UA flight. And even though after booking you get them to change the UA flight # from a UA codeshare flight to an LH flight, the 016 ticket stock sticks, and you earn 66,000 RDMs.

(FYI, had the ticket stock been an LH stock, the RDM's earned would be 5790 miles x 150% = 8685 RDMs. Big difference)

Note that sometimes the online upgrading does not work, and you may get an error message to call an 877 number, which is now defunct but still resides on .bomb...Ignore it and just call web support. They might put you on hold while they call LH but they will get the job done.

Eligible Economy Fares to Apply a GPU

Upgradeable to business fares include U/H/Q the lowest eligible economy fares. G&E the two top premium economy fares and Y/B/M the most expensive economy fares. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24219165-post205.html)
While UA has not changed their T&Cs, LH appears to have expanded the potential fare classes
Originally Posted by oliver2002
For C->F upgrade, J, D, C fares are eligible, Z and P fares are not.
Originally Posted by andywaw
Effective April 20th, 2018, all Lufthansa revenue Business Class fares, including P and Z, are eligible to be upgraded to First Class using miles or eVouchers. ...
LH booking class P, Z upgreadable for miles and eVouchers
Appears this also applies to use of UA GPUs IF booked as native flight number on LH or UA ticket stock.
Presently UA is not converting codeshare to native flight numbers, as required for this process, if P or Z fare
From April to September 2018 it was possible to confirm and waitlist P ,Z-class LH flights with a GPU. Confirming and waitlisting is no now longer possible, but previously waitlisted segments will continue to clear as/if available.

Checking for Upgrade Availability

Upgrades to E, C and F come from the N, I and O fare bucket, but its a subset, which theoretically is not the same as the award subset. If awards are available it is a strong indication the upgrade is available too. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24861289-post342.html)

In case of upgrade clearing but eticket refresh problems:

Originally Posted by oliver2002
Both longhaul LH segments cleared into I after being on waitlist . The first didnt get stickered, so the DCS ( amadeus altea ) rejected online and agent checkin . The eticket helpdesk had to manually update the first coupon for the DCS to accept the coupon. My seat in C was safe, since the PNR was updated correctly, just the ticket was not updated completely to the satisfaction of the DCS. Everyone looking at the booking agreed the upgrade was legit, so you will not be denied boarding or downgraded, just budget enough time
Originally Posted by oliver2002
The LH GA must have called the eticket helpdesk and pointed out the * SSR remark in your reservation that shows an upgrade was applied and the e-ticket just needed a fix/sticker. See my experience above.
Checking for availability prior to calling
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Upgrades to E, C and F come from the N, I and O fare bucket, but its a subset, which theoretically is not the same as the award subset. If awards are available it is a strong indication the upgrade is available too.
Use ANA or even united.com to see availability.

To check if C/F upgrades may open up, ask in this thread: Determining LH Y/C/F loads? [the help me guesstimate loads thread]

Regarding ticket stock, Oliver reports:
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Any ticket stock will do.
Each LH flight segment requires a separate GPU
A single GPU can be used to only upgrade a single LH flight segment, And that GPU cannot be extended to include another LH flight segment or another UA flight segment.


Problems getting mileage credit for upgraded LH segments

Numerous reports of denial of mileage credits (RDMs, PQMs, PQSs, PQDs) for upgraded tickets. This issue is probably due to LH uses the same fare bucket for mileage awards and upgrades. It seems patience, persistence, and documentation of the originally paid fare are needed to get credit.

You probably won't get credit by simply submitting the online form or asking a CSR to do so for you. A CSR needs to submit a System Issue Form, together with the mileage request, explaining that you flew in I class, but you paid for a mileage-earning booking class.

T-10

While the original system did not allow the upgrade waitlist to carry on past t-10 hours, the have been multiple reports that this is no longer the case. If not cleared in advance - the upgrade wait-list will last all the way until the door closing. UA has not updated the text on the LH GPU upgrades to reflect this change.

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Old May 2, 2015, 12:10 pm
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Yes you need 2 seats in the I inventory bucket, alternatively it will go into waitlist and clear later.
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Old May 6, 2015, 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Yes you need 2 seats in the I inventory bucket, alternatively it will go into waitlist and clear later.
What website and method does one use for displaying LH I inventory class?
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Old May 6, 2015, 3:58 pm
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5 hours before flight SFO-MUC, upgrade is available, booked in LH stock.

Can I request GPU upgrade?
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Old May 6, 2015, 4:33 pm
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Originally Posted by chitownflyer
What website and method does one use for displaying LH I inventory class?
LH M&M website, some screen scrapers available.

Originally Posted by kb1992
5 hours before flight SFO-MUC, upgrade is available, booked in LH stock.

Can I request GPU upgrade?
No, T-10h is the cutoff for 1K GPUs.
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Old May 16, 2015, 3:02 pm
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Is there any reason to have my ticket reissued by UA when it's showing "A modification has been made..." when traveling on LH?

Background:
I purchased a ticket on 016 stock for LH flight numbers in premium economy, applied GPUs and the outbound has cleared which resulted in the out of sync ticket. Everything looks fine on the LH site but would appreciate any guidance. I'm reluctant to call UA for a reissue if not necessary (it's been showing the modification state for a week). Is it safe leave things as is?

Thanks for any advice.
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Old May 16, 2015, 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by zephyr
Is there any reason to have my ticket reissued by UA when it's showing "A modification has been made..." when traveling on LH?

Background:
I purchased a ticket on 016 stock for LH flight numbers in premium economy, applied GPUs and the outbound has cleared which resulted in the out of sync ticket. Everything looks fine on the LH site but would appreciate any guidance. I'm reluctant to call UA for a reissue if not necessary (it's been showing the modification state for a week). Is it safe leave things as is?

Thanks for any advice.
I can't speak directly about the "modification" notice as it applies to your upgrade clearing on your LH ticket but the same thing happens quite often with a waitlisted upgrade clearing on an entirely United ticket and it generally clears itself out within 3-5 days so unless you're flying within that time period, I'd wait it out and see
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Old May 16, 2015, 10:11 pm
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I'm a 1K and interested in upgrading D->F on LH.

What is the chance of getting an upgrade SFO-FRA and FRA-SIN on Fridays? I would normally book midweek departures when hoping for an upgrade, but in this case, I need to fly on Fridays.
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Old May 16, 2015, 11:11 pm
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Applied GPU on SFO FRA LH successfully. Online upgrade worked like charm.

However I had to cancel the entire ticket. GPU never redeposited. It's been 10 days now.
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Old May 16, 2015, 11:15 pm
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Originally Posted by kb1992
Applied GPU on SFO FRA LH successfully. Online upgrade worked like charm.

However I had to cancel the entire ticket. GPU never redeposited. It's been 10 days now.
You should call Mileage Plus as it shouldn't take that long
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Old May 17, 2015, 7:51 am
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Originally Posted by zephyr
Is there any reason to have my ticket reissued by UA when it's showing "A modification has been made..." when traveling on LH?

Background:
I purchased a ticket on 016 stock for LH flight numbers in premium economy, applied GPUs and the outbound has cleared which resulted in the out of sync ticket. Everything looks fine on the LH site but would appreciate any guidance. I'm reluctant to call UA for a reissue if not necessary (it's been showing the modification state for a week). Is it safe leave things as is?

Thanks for any advice.
Same here...LH.com and app displaying correct flight times and cabin class (I) but UA itin for the international segments that cleared are out of synch with incorrect times...been this way for three weeks and agent said this is common and don't bother to call back since the ticket in the LH system is synched correctly...playing a waiting game until I hear otherwise (flights in July).
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Old May 17, 2015, 1:10 pm
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Originally Posted by zephyr
Is there any reason to have my ticket reissued by UA when it's showing "A modification has been made..." when traveling on LH?

Background:
I purchased a ticket on 016 stock for LH flight numbers in premium economy, applied GPUs and the outbound has cleared which resulted in the out of sync ticket. Everything looks fine on the LH site but would appreciate any guidance. I'm reluctant to call UA for a reissue if not necessary (it's been showing the modification state for a week). Is it safe leave things as is?

Thanks for any advice.
I had this happen last week with a ticket that has a LH segment. I called UA and they fixed the issue.
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Old May 21, 2015, 2:18 pm
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GPU availabilty on Lufthansa with expertflyer?

Is it possible to see what flights can be upgraded in advance using expertflyer on LH metal?
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Old May 21, 2015, 4:05 pm
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Originally Posted by goalie
You should call Mileage Plus as it shouldn't take that long
Called MPSC, and got GPU back.

It took 15 min.
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Old May 22, 2015, 5:39 am
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Is it possible to see what flights can be upgraded in advance using expertflyer on LH metal?
Unfortunately ExpertFlyer does not show Lufthansa availability.
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Old May 22, 2015, 5:57 am
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Is the best method of gauging whether an upgrade can be confirmed at booking to see whether there is LH Biz or First award space available on United.com(or LH.com as well)?
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