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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:21 am
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This is the archive thread, the active thread is Lufthansa GPUs Go Electronic (How to use, will it clear?, issues w/flight credit,...)

For general information on upgrading ANA or Lufthansa flights with a GPU, see Upgrading Flights Operated by ANA or Lufthansa. You actually request the upgrade through the online form, here: Request a GPU for a Select Partner Airline.

Per United web support, you only need to fill in the required* info.

**The LH flight you are upgrading must be an LH flight, not a UA codeshare flight. If you have a UA codeshare flight, you can call websupport and they will (put you on hold and] change your itinerary to one with an LH flight#.

Note that UA websupport might give you a new ticket # when you do the above, but if the original ticket # was 016 UA stock, it will remain so, and thus you will still be earning RDMs at the UA rate (11x for a 1K), not the *A rate. In case of a $6000 biz fare for LAX-FRA that you are trying to upgrade to F for example, as a 1K you would earn 66,000 UA RDM if booked as a UA flight. And even though after booking you get them to change the UA flight # from a UA codeshare flight to an LH flight, the 016 ticket stock sticks, and you earn 66,000 RDMs.

(FYI, had the ticket stock been an LH stock, the RDM's earned would be 5790 miles x 150% = 8685 RDMs. Big difference)

Note that sometimes the online upgrading does not work, and you may get an error message to call an 877 number, which is now defunct but still resides on .bomb...Ignore it and just call web support. They might put you on hold while they call LH but they will get the job done.

Eligible Economy Fares to Apply a GPU

Upgradeable to business fares include U/H/Q the lowest eligible economy fares. G&E the two top premium economy fares and Y/B/M the most expensive economy fares. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24219165-post205.html)
While UA has not changed their T&Cs, LH appears to have expanded the potential fare classes
Originally Posted by oliver2002
For C->F upgrade, J, D, C fares are eligible, Z and P fares are not.
Originally Posted by andywaw
Effective April 20th, 2018, all Lufthansa revenue Business Class fares, including P and Z, are eligible to be upgraded to First Class using miles or eVouchers. ...
LH booking class P, Z upgreadable for miles and eVouchers
Appears this also applies to use of UA GPUs IF booked as native flight number on LH or UA ticket stock.
Presently UA is not converting codeshare to native flight numbers, as required for this process, if P or Z fare
From April to September 2018 it was possible to confirm and waitlist P ,Z-class LH flights with a GPU. Confirming and waitlisting is no now longer possible, but previously waitlisted segments will continue to clear as/if available.

Checking for Upgrade Availability

Upgrades to E, C and F come from the N, I and O fare bucket, but its a subset, which theoretically is not the same as the award subset. If awards are available it is a strong indication the upgrade is available too. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24861289-post342.html)

In case of upgrade clearing but eticket refresh problems:

Originally Posted by oliver2002
Both longhaul LH segments cleared into I after being on waitlist . The first didnt get stickered, so the DCS ( amadeus altea ) rejected online and agent checkin . The eticket helpdesk had to manually update the first coupon for the DCS to accept the coupon. My seat in C was safe, since the PNR was updated correctly, just the ticket was not updated completely to the satisfaction of the DCS. Everyone looking at the booking agreed the upgrade was legit, so you will not be denied boarding or downgraded, just budget enough time
Originally Posted by oliver2002
The LH GA must have called the eticket helpdesk and pointed out the * SSR remark in your reservation that shows an upgrade was applied and the e-ticket just needed a fix/sticker. See my experience above.
Checking for availability prior to calling
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Upgrades to E, C and F come from the N, I and O fare bucket, but its a subset, which theoretically is not the same as the award subset. If awards are available it is a strong indication the upgrade is available too.
Use ANA or even united.com to see availability.

To check if C/F upgrades may open up, ask in this thread: Determining LH Y/C/F loads? [the help me guesstimate loads thread]

Regarding ticket stock, Oliver reports:
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Any ticket stock will do.
Each LH flight segment requires a separate GPU
A single GPU can be used to only upgrade a single LH flight segment, And that GPU cannot be extended to include another LH flight segment or another UA flight segment.


Problems getting mileage credit for upgraded LH segments

Numerous reports of denial of mileage credits (RDMs, PQMs, PQSs, PQDs) for upgraded tickets. This issue is probably due to LH uses the same fare bucket for mileage awards and upgrades. It seems patience, persistence, and documentation of the originally paid fare are needed to get credit.

You probably won't get credit by simply submitting the online form or asking a CSR to do so for you. A CSR needs to submit a System Issue Form, together with the mileage request, explaining that you flew in I class, but you paid for a mileage-earning booking class.

T-10

While the original system did not allow the upgrade waitlist to carry on past t-10 hours, the have been multiple reports that this is no longer the case. If not cleared in advance - the upgrade wait-list will last all the way until the door closing. UA has not updated the text on the LH GPU upgrades to reflect this change.

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Old Sep 7, 2018, 4:08 pm
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With UA systems working again, the LH F upgrade list for SFO-FRA opened up ~30 days before departure. My GPU upgrade is waitlisted.

Thanks for all the advice!
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Old Sep 7, 2018, 9:09 pm
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P class cleared just after issuing tkt

Booked on LH website (ICN-FRA) P class for Oct 20. 220 tkt and flight showed F5. Cleared immediately.
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Old Sep 8, 2018, 3:52 am
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Originally Posted by atakam
Booked on LH website (ICN-FRA) P class for Oct 20. 220 tkt and flight showed F5. Cleared immediately.
wow, on F5 ... I have a few sitting at F8 for a while now. No doubt they will eventually clear on a Saturday night TATL departure
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Old Sep 8, 2018, 6:58 am
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Originally Posted by cfischer
wow, on F5 ... I have a few sitting at F8 for a while now. No doubt they will eventually clear on a Saturday night TATL departure
I have 2 legs WL on a 016 tkt on D class and flights are F8 and F6
Probably a 220 tkt has better chances or I was just lucky...
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Old Sep 10, 2018, 9:05 am
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Originally Posted by cfischer
oh yuck, you were on that diverted flight ... yeah, re-ticketing messes up proper credit. As long as it is a 016 ticket it is easy enough though for UA to process an ORC.
Just an update, I called today, 8 days after the LH flight to request ORC for the flight UG from P to O, I was on the phone for 20 mins (mostly on hold), and had to search through my email for the new ticket numbers that she needed to confirm I had taken the flights, but they were able to post ORC for the P class on the flight, she noted this was always an issue on upgrades. The BLR-FRA and the FRA-EWR both posted as the LH flight number, despite the FRA-EWR being ticketed as the UA codeshare (preventing me UG that leg). It looks like it all posted based on usual UA earning per 016 ticket.
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Old Sep 10, 2018, 10:42 am
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I had purchased two tickets on UA website MUC-LAX, LH U class, with 2 GPUs applied. One cleared at T-48 and the second at T-36. Thanks to all who contributed to the step-by-step procedure on how to go about this process!
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Old Sep 10, 2018, 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by selo
I had purchased two tickets on UA website MUC-LAX, LH U class, with 2 GPUs applied. One cleared at T-48 and the second at T-36. Thanks to all who contributed to the step-by-step procedure on how to go about this process!
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Originally Posted by tht
Just an update, I called today, 8 days after the LH flight to request ORC for the flight UG from P to O, I was on the phone for 20 mins (mostly on hold), and had to search through my email for the new ticket numbers that she needed to confirm I had taken the flights, but they were able to post ORC for the P class on the flight, she noted this was always an issue on upgrades. The BLR-FRA and the FRA-EWR both posted as the LH flight number, despite the FRA-EWR being ticketed as the UA codeshare (preventing me UG that leg). It looks like it all posted based on usual UA earning per 016 ticket.
that's how it is supposed to be. Flights ALWAYS post with the native flight number.
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Old Sep 10, 2018, 7:41 pm
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GPU on UA/LH flights

I know that a OW flight on UA with a connection only requires one GPU. I know that a OW flight on LH with a connection requires two GPUs. What if you have a OW flight with one segment on UA and one on LH?
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Old Sep 10, 2018, 7:50 pm
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Originally Posted by HoyaLawya05
I know that a OW flight on UA with a connection only requires one GPU. I know that a OW flight on LH with a connection requires two GPUs. What if you have a OW flight with one segment on UA and one on LH?
LH flights require an uniqueGPU per segment. So an itin of one UA flight and one LH flight, requires two GPUs
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Old Sep 10, 2018, 9:54 pm
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Issues in booking a LH ticket and upgrading wijth infant on ticket
Hi,

This is my first post, so apologies if I miss important details.

Today, I spent about 3 hours trying to book a business class ticket for my wife and our 3 month infant on LH using GPUs (i.e., book economy and upgrade)
The united 1k desk said they will only book a ticket if there is United metal / united ticket. Given that I was booking a LH ticket, she said she could not help me.
As per guidance, I booked a ticket on lufthansa.com (Q class). The ticket had my wife and an infant (3 month old).

When I tried using the online upgrade tool, it said that the number of passengers did not match. When I spoke to united web-help, they said should try the upgrade tool after taking the infant off the ticket. As per their suggestion, I called Lufthansa. At first they said they don't know what a GPU was. After explaining that it is a voucher from United, she offered to look up the united number for me. I repeated the instructions that the United agent had given me (i.e., to take the infant off and try)
At my request, the Lufthansa agent took the infant off the ticket.
When I went back to the upgrade tool, it said that the ticket had not been ticketed. When I asked the Lufthansa agent, she said that to re-issue the ticket, she will have to add the baby back.
At this point having been on the phone for about three hours, I requested that the ticket be cancelled (< 24 hours)

Any suggestions on how to do a GPU upgrade on Lufthansa metal on a ticket with an infant?
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Old Sep 11, 2018, 1:58 am
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Buy the ticket for the adult, upgrade it, add the infant.
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Old Sep 11, 2018, 2:03 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Buy the ticket for the adult, upgrade it, add the infant.
This
But note the infant's fee will be 10% of the going rate for Business Class
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Old Sep 11, 2018, 2:17 am
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Because of posts upthread mentioning success with P and Z fares, I booked a roundtrip in business on Lufthansa metal (Z fares) on 016 stock. I called to have the flight numbers changed to native LH.

However, when I try to apply the GPU using the UA-LH form, I keep getting the following message: "We have experienced a technical problem. If you have not received this message before, please try your request again. If you have received this error previously or are traveling on a codeshare flight with a United flight number, please call 1-800-UNITED-1 (1-800-864-8331) within the U.S. or Canada, elsewhere call your local Customer Contact Center. (Error code: 118)"

Any ideas?
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Old Sep 11, 2018, 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Buy the ticket for the adult, upgrade it, add the infant.
Thanks, will try that today

Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
This
But note the infant's fee will be 10% of the going rate for Business Class
Ouch - could be as high as $600, but thanks for the heads up
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Old Sep 11, 2018, 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
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But note the infant's fee will be 10% of the going rate for Business Class
Ouch - could be as high as $600, but thanks for the heads up
See Lap Infant Ticket Pricing with Upgrade / Award Seat
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