Oct 22, 2018, 3:44 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion
This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
For posing formal notifications (but no discussion), use this thread Global Services 2019 Notifications (ONLY)
2019 GS Timeline
First requal notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For discussion of GS benefits, please use Consolidated Global Services Thread: Benefits, Questions 2018First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For 2017 qualifications, see the 2017 thread and for 2018, see the 2018 thread
To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.
Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.
Definitions
BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.
The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.
Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using
PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS
Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.
As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.
One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.
rwsteelers had a good method for determining UA BIS -- the change in Lifetime Miles from the first of the year.
Hello:
To help with collection of qualification metrics for global services, I created a Google Doc. This will be useful for future members. For ease of use, I created a form which feeds into a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet and form does not require a google account and is free to use.
Similar spreadsheets were created in years past, so I'm hoping to continue this tradition. Please take the time to enter your stats into the spreadsheet. Many thanks
LINK to entry form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SYm...xRKZ_EUD8/edit
View responses here ( read only ):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
To help with collection of qualification metrics for global services, I created a Google Doc. This will be useful for future members. For ease of use, I created a form which feeds into a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet and form does not require a google account and is free to use.
Similar spreadsheets were created in years past, so I'm hoping to continue this tradition. Please take the time to enter your stats into the spreadsheet. Many thanks
LINK to entry form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SYm...xRKZ_EUD8/edit
View responses here ( read only ):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion / Questions
Nov 10, 2018, 12:53 pm
#211
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: San Diego, CA
Programs: UA GS 1M / EK Platinum / Bonvoy Titanium Elite / IHG Platinum Elite
Posts: 42
"Unless those PQD's are NOT on UA metal (no *A dollars) you are a lock."
$88,303 were UA Metal.
$88,303 were UA Metal.
Nov 10, 2018, 4:57 pm
#212
Join Date: Apr 2014
Programs: DL Gold, UA nothing (ex-GS), Marriott lifetime Plat, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 920
You should be good. I qualified with very similar stats out of ORD last year. Only thing I can think of is that if the 1K PQD requirement has gone up, the GS requirement may go up as well.
Nov 10, 2018, 8:27 pm
#213
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: MRY
Programs: UA 2 MM, HH Diamond, Marriott Platinum Elite, Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 42
Most of the posts here are about individuals qualifying for GS status on their own. Does anyone know whether it's possible to qualify based on company travel over which an individual has control?
I'm nearly a 2 Million Mile Flyer but won't qualify for GS on my own in 2019. However, I'm the Executive Director of an organization that expects to spend more than $200K on air travel next year. My staff, Board members, and I fly frequently for our work all over the world. This year, we traveled to all continents and made frequent use of United Airlines for our air travel needs. Next year, we expect to travel even more and the vast majority of that travel will be on United and United Express.
Should I write to UA CEO Oscar Munoz and request GS status for 2019? I know UA used to grant GS to those who were in a position to direct significant revenue to the airline. Does anyone know the proper procedure to request GS status under such circumstances?
I'm nearly a 2 Million Mile Flyer but won't qualify for GS on my own in 2019. However, I'm the Executive Director of an organization that expects to spend more than $200K on air travel next year. My staff, Board members, and I fly frequently for our work all over the world. This year, we traveled to all continents and made frequent use of United Airlines for our air travel needs. Next year, we expect to travel even more and the vast majority of that travel will be on United and United Express.
Should I write to UA CEO Oscar Munoz and request GS status for 2019? I know UA used to grant GS to those who were in a position to direct significant revenue to the airline. Does anyone know the proper procedure to request GS status under such circumstances?
Nov 10, 2018, 9:00 pm
#214
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,116
what business did you have in Antarctica?
Nov 10, 2018, 9:31 pm
#215
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Lahaina, HI & Los Angeles, CA
Programs: UA GS
Posts: 2,403
Most of the posts here are about individuals qualifying for GS status on their own. Does anyone know whether it's possible to qualify based on company travel over which an individual has control?
I'm nearly a 2 Million Mile Flyer but won't qualify for GS on my own in 2019. However, I'm the Executive Director of an organization that expects to spend more than $200K on air travel next year. My staff, Board members, and I fly frequently for our work all over the world. This year, we traveled to all continents and made frequent use of United Airlines for our air travel needs. Next year, we expect to travel even more and the vast majority of that travel will be on United and United Express.
Should I write to UA CEO Oscar Munoz and request GS status for 2019? I know UA used to grant GS to those who were in a position to direct significant revenue to the airline. Does anyone know the proper procedure to request GS status under such circumstances?
I'm nearly a 2 Million Mile Flyer but won't qualify for GS on my own in 2019. However, I'm the Executive Director of an organization that expects to spend more than $200K on air travel next year. My staff, Board members, and I fly frequently for our work all over the world. This year, we traveled to all continents and made frequent use of United Airlines for our air travel needs. Next year, we expect to travel even more and the vast majority of that travel will be on United and United Express.
Should I write to UA CEO Oscar Munoz and request GS status for 2019? I know UA used to grant GS to those who were in a position to direct significant revenue to the airline. Does anyone know the proper procedure to request GS status under such circumstances?
Nov 11, 2018, 7:53 am
#216
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: EWR
Posts: 894
Hello - does anyone have access to the GS qualification spreadsheets that were posted here in years past? I was able to search back through the threads and was able to find two of them. However I recall that there were at least 3 of these spreadsheets circulating on Flyertalk??? If anyone has the link to the 2016 Google Doc, please let me know:
2018 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
2017 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...8TM/edit#gid=0
2018 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
2017 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...8TM/edit#gid=0
Nov 11, 2018, 8:01 am
#217
Join Date: Jun 2018
Programs: United Global Services
Posts: 19
BASE: ORD
PQM: 225K
PQD: $64K ($60K on UA metal)
PQS: 51
Only concern is last year most my travel was on AA due to previous employers AA contract. 2017 I only spent about $20K PQD on UA. Most my travel is in paid business international flights. Hoping to make GS next year.
PQM: 225K
PQD: $64K ($60K on UA metal)
PQS: 51
Only concern is last year most my travel was on AA due to previous employers AA contract. 2017 I only spent about $20K PQD on UA. Most my travel is in paid business international flights. Hoping to make GS next year.
Nov 11, 2018, 1:12 pm
#218
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: MRY
Programs: UA 2 MM, HH Diamond, Marriott Platinum Elite, Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 42
Nov 11, 2018, 10:20 pm
#219
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.995MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,853
Hello - does anyone have access to the GS qualification spreadsheets that were posted here in years past? I was able to search back through the threads and was able to find two of them. However I recall that there were at least 3 of these spreadsheets circulating on Flyertalk??? If anyone has the link to the 2016 Google Doc, please let me know:
2018 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
2017 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...8TM/edit#gid=0
2018 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
2017 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...8TM/edit#gid=0
Global Services Qualifications 2016
Nov 11, 2018, 11:51 pm
#220
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: SFO / LHR
Programs: UA GS 2.2MM / UC / AS Gold 75K / Bonvoy Plat / Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,028
Most of the posts here are about individuals qualifying for GS status on their own. Does anyone know whether it's possible to qualify based on company travel over which an individual has control?
I'm nearly a 2 Million Mile Flyer but won't qualify for GS on my own in 2019. However, I'm the Executive Director of an organization that expects to spend more than $200K on air travel next year. My staff, Board members, and I fly frequently for our work all over the world. This year, we traveled to all continents and made frequent use of United Airlines for our air travel needs. Next year, we expect to travel even more and the vast majority of that travel will be on United and United Express.
Should I write to UA CEO Oscar Munoz and request GS status for 2019? I know UA used to grant GS to those who were in a position to direct significant revenue to the airline. Does anyone know the proper procedure to request GS status under such circumstances?
I'm nearly a 2 Million Mile Flyer but won't qualify for GS on my own in 2019. However, I'm the Executive Director of an organization that expects to spend more than $200K on air travel next year. My staff, Board members, and I fly frequently for our work all over the world. This year, we traveled to all continents and made frequent use of United Airlines for our air travel needs. Next year, we expect to travel even more and the vast majority of that travel will be on United and United Express.
Should I write to UA CEO Oscar Munoz and request GS status for 2019? I know UA used to grant GS to those who were in a position to direct significant revenue to the airline. Does anyone know the proper procedure to request GS status under such circumstances?
Nov 12, 2018, 12:12 am
#221
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.995MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,853
Beleive the OP is saying they don't have $50K annually in travel but influences $200K of travel. As others have pointed out $200K in total company travel is likely too low to get a complimentary GS slot.
Nov 12, 2018, 12:39 am
#222
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: SFO / LHR
Programs: UA GS 2.2MM / UC / AS Gold 75K / Bonvoy Plat / Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,028
Depends how the OP is "influencing" travel ... allowing everyone to do their own thing and charge individually versus controlling all spend using his UATP, should he enroll in PassPlus. I guess my point being that without knowing the organization size and procurement processes, it's hard to give the right answer; b) UA does give VOLPROFs (registered voluntary and non-profit organizations) flexibility and leniency on some of the programs, including PassPlus. Just saying it's worth looking into and discussing with the UA sales people running PassPlus - it worked for my friends at a nonprof in DC, and it's worth a shot.
Nov 12, 2018, 2:57 am
#223
Join Date: May 2008
Location: New Jersey
Programs: UA GS 1.7MM, Hyatt Lifetime Glob, Marriott Titanium/Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 1,272
I've been GS since 2014, EWR-based. I'll end up with around $61k PQD on UA metal, nearly all on Int'l premium cabins. Last year I was at $71k. I think I was around $60k in 2016. Hoping the drop-off year-on-year doesn't keep me out of the club...
Nov 12, 2018, 6:59 am
#224
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: CLE
Programs: UA GS+LT UC, AA EXP+LT PLT, Fairmont LT PLT, Marriott PLT, Hilton DIA, Hyatt Glob, Avis CHM
Posts: 4,671
Why is it not in UAs interest to publish a GS PQD requirement?
Seems like it would drive incremental revenue from PQD runs and eliminate the uncertainty that surely annoys high revenue passengers who just miss the cutoff.
CO published that they required $30K spend on their metal for Presidential Platinum. Why doesn't UA do the same? If the reason is that hub pax need to spend more, there are probably ways to enforce that as well.
Seems like it would drive incremental revenue from PQD runs and eliminate the uncertainty that surely annoys high revenue passengers who just miss the cutoff.
CO published that they required $30K spend on their metal for Presidential Platinum. Why doesn't UA do the same? If the reason is that hub pax need to spend more, there are probably ways to enforce that as well.
Nov 12, 2018, 7:22 am
#225
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Silicon wasteland
Programs: UA 1KMM
Posts: 1,381