Jun 6, 2018, 1:40 pm
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The TATL -LGT Fares will be called Basic Economy Effective 12/11/2018, Additional Restrictions will Apply
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
Will earn 50% PQMs, 100% PQDs, RDMs, Lifetime miles and segment credit toward 4 UA segments needed for elite status
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
United's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
New ways to fly across the Atlantic Effective June 5, 2018, United Airlines in line with Atlantic Joint Venture partners Air Canada and Lufthansa Group, will introduce a new fare option in select trans-Atlantic markets.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
What is the new fare option?
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
Are there any exemptions from the first bag fee?
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
ITA Matrix Google Flights -- select 1 Carry-on bag
related threadsUnited's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
TATL Basic Economy (renamed Dec 2018); all BE to earn 50% PQMs, earn 100% PQDs
Jun 6, 2018, 8:03 am
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This is making a hash of the search results on ua dot com, in some cases showing the same price for both extra restrictive economy and regularly restrictive economy prior to selecting outbound, and then showing higher or lower prices than initially displayed when selecting the return. Guessing the search team hasn't caught up with the fare team's 'innovations'.
Jun 6, 2018, 8:05 am
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I think we need a new thread for this discussion.
I don't know if there's any connection, but I noticed last night UA has changed the structure on some of its TPAC economy fares (including W, V, and Q) in terms of how it defines cancel, refund, and change fees. Appears that many now have a $120 change fee, but a $300 refund fee.
Jun 6, 2018, 8:19 am
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Just the non-upgradeable part would make it that I would not consider this fare. I already take a long time double-checking, triple-checking that I got everything right on the tickets I purchase. I will just need to be even more vigilant.
Jun 6, 2018, 8:24 am
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I'm not sure if they are doing the -LGT to any W or higher classes, which generally are the only (cost-effective) advance-upgradeable ones. However, it remains to be seen what -LGT means for GG BUYUP or check-in offers.
Jun 6, 2018, 8:39 am
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Often I cannot purchase a W fare because it's too expensive ($900-$1,000 more than the cheapest fare). I purchase the cheapest fare and upgrade with miles + copay. In the end, if I get upgraded, it costs me more than the W fare and it comes from my pocket. But I cannot present a receipt at work for $1750 when they can easily see that I could have gotten a ticket for $800. The only thing I would get is that they would force me to use my employer's travel agent. I had to do that the two years I was in the UK as my employer there did not have the option of booking your own ticket and it was a pain.
Jun 6, 2018, 8:47 am
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Often I cannot purchase a W fare because it's too expensive ($900-$1,000 more than the cheapest fare). I purchase the cheapest fare and upgrade with miles + copay. In the end, if I get upgraded, it costs me more than the W fare and it comes from my pocket. But I cannot present a receipt at work for $1750 when they can easily see that I could have gotten a ticket for $800. The only thing I would get is that they would force me to use my employer's travel agent. I had to do that the two years I was in the UK as my employer there did not have the option of booking your own ticket and it was a pain.
Of course all of that may be confounded if these -LGT fares restrict day-of-purchase changes as well.
Jun 6, 2018, 9:07 am
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- not instrument/mileage/cash upgradable, or
- can upgrade the underlying fare class, or
- both
Jun 6, 2018, 9:22 am
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The fee upgrades bypass the fare rules and don't touch the coupon, so it remains to be seen if those will work.
Jun 6, 2018, 9:23 am
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The former. The latter is not technically an upgrade, it's a ticket change. These fares may preclude both. Don't have time to parse the fare rules right now.
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This is a similar but different animal. "Light" fare versus "Basic Economy."
They appear designed to match the LH group fare structure.