Oct 29, 2018, 2:14 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
UA has started installing Premium Plus / Premium Economy seats in 772s and 773s. Other long haul aircraft will also be receiving these new seats.
For 77x it is a 2-4-2 (vs economy 3-4-3) with 3 rows - 24 seats
For 76x it is believe it will be 2-2-2 (vs 2-3-2) with 3 rows ( and maybe a partial row) - 22 seats
For 78x it is believed it will be 2-3-2 (vs 3-3-3) with 3 rows - 21 seats
UA has not yet started selling this new cabin but has restructured its fare class -- which appears to be in preparation of selling the new cabin (and removed 3-class F)
In the meantime, the Premium Plus cabin is being treated as an extension of E+ and those with E+ access can select the new seats.
In many cases UA is initially using an interim seat maps, such as https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1926142-interim-772-seat-map-polaris-potentially-premium-economy-2018-a.html
Things start to firm up about 2 days prior but last minute changes can happen
For 77x it is a 2-4-2 (vs economy 3-4-3) with 3 rows - 24 seats
For 76x it is believe it will be 2-2-2 (vs 2-3-2) with 3 rows ( and maybe a partial row) - 22 seats
For 78x it is believed it will be 2-3-2 (vs 3-3-3) with 3 rows - 21 seats
UA has not yet started selling this new cabin but has restructured its fare class -- which appears to be in preparation of selling the new cabin (and removed 3-class F)
In the meantime, the Premium Plus cabin is being treated as an extension of E+ and those with E+ access can select the new seats.
In many cases UA is initially using an interim seat maps, such as https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1926142-interim-772-seat-map-polaris-potentially-premium-economy-2018-a.html
Things start to firm up about 2 days prior but last minute changes can happen
Real Premium Economy is Coming [Update: UA studying "Real" Prem Y in domestic market]
Oct 24, 2018, 4:58 pm
#871
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Going to NYC in late April.
Is there a chance if I wait to buy PE they'll separate them out into PE, instead of E+ and the price will go way up?
Is there a chance if I wait to buy PE they'll separate them out into PE, instead of E+ and the price will go way up?
Oct 24, 2018, 5:00 pm
#872
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On a domestic booking, I highly doubt it. The only way it would be segmented out by then would be if UA moves forward with its tentative plan (which I believe it has discussed) of dynamically pricing seat selection based on where the seat is on the aircraft.
Oct 24, 2018, 5:08 pm
#873
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I would disagree. Once PE is integrated with the sales system I would expect them to sell the seats as a separate class of service. However, I have no idea when that is planned.
Oct 24, 2018, 5:10 pm
#874
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I should have put a caveat in my statement, which is that what you mentioned definitely won't be done by April (unless the retrofitting magically picks up tremendous pace).
Oct 24, 2018, 5:11 pm
#875
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I could see them doing something similar that is currently in place for the 3-class planes were GS/1K can select GF seats for free and others have to pay a separate surcharge. Once they have enough of these we might see something like that.
Oct 24, 2018, 5:23 pm
#876
Join Date: Nov 2016
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That's the only reason I would purchase now. Those 3 rows are empty both ways.
Are there any stats on these seats, width & pitch?
Also, what is in between the two seats? The UA map makes it look like a space the size of a seat is missing there.
Normally I would go Polaris one way, and maybe JetBlue the other way, but these seats look like a great deal for points + $100 or so.
Are there any stats on these seats, width & pitch?
Also, what is in between the two seats? The UA map makes it look like a space the size of a seat is missing there.
Normally I would go Polaris one way, and maybe JetBlue the other way, but these seats look like a great deal for points + $100 or so.
Oct 24, 2018, 5:41 pm
#877
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PE seats are inexpensive to obtain still. With advance purchase rate of under $160 one way for E-, Golds and above can select PE for free at booking.
Save points for higher value redemption.
Save points for higher value redemption.
Oct 24, 2018, 6:02 pm
#878
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That's the only reason I would purchase now. Those 3 rows are empty both ways.
Are there any stats on these seats, width & pitch?
Also, what is in between the two seats? The UA map makes it look like a space the size of a seat is missing there.
Normally I would go Polaris one way, and maybe JetBlue the other way, but these seats look like a great deal for points + $100 or so.
Are there any stats on these seats, width & pitch?
Also, what is in between the two seats? The UA map makes it look like a space the size of a seat is missing there.
Normally I would go Polaris one way, and maybe JetBlue the other way, but these seats look like a great deal for points + $100 or so.
The UA seatmap is using the same graphic as Economy Plus, hence the weird gap. The seats will be 2-3-2 of equal width and spacing.
Oct 24, 2018, 8:21 pm
#880
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Learnt from a nice agent today....
- Series of training about the new PE service lined up for all customer support employees in the next 2 months
- PE will book into O fare
- Official announcement in Jan 2019
- PE will roll out in Q2
- Was not sure if 1Ks to have some advantage but this agent was guessing that it would be similar to Delta (will find out in training)
- Series of training about the new PE service lined up for all customer support employees in the next 2 months
- PE will book into O fare
- Official announcement in Jan 2019
- PE will roll out in Q2
- Was not sure if 1Ks to have some advantage but this agent was guessing that it would be similar to Delta (will find out in training)
Oct 25, 2018, 12:36 am
#881
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Oct 26, 2018, 7:25 am
#882
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Learnt from a nice agent today....
- Series of training about the new PE service lined up for all customer support employees in the next 2 months
- PE will book into O fare
- Official announcement in Jan 2019
- PE will roll out in Q2
- Was not sure if 1Ks to have some advantage but this agent was guessing that it would be similar to Delta (will find out in training)
- Series of training about the new PE service lined up for all customer support employees in the next 2 months
- PE will book into O fare
- Official announcement in Jan 2019
- PE will roll out in Q2
- Was not sure if 1Ks to have some advantage but this agent was guessing that it would be similar to Delta (will find out in training)
Oct 26, 2018, 10:41 am
#883
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O, A, and R are all going to be Premium Economy booking classes, according to my source. I don't know if they are all revenue booking classes, or if that represents a mix of revenue, upgrade, and award inventory. If that is a mix of revenue and award inventory, then it's possible that we'll only see one of them at launch and the remaining won't come until later.
Oct 26, 2018, 7:34 pm
#884
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O, A, and R are all going to be Premium Economy booking classes, according to my source. I don't know if they are all revenue booking classes, or if that represents a mix of revenue, upgrade, and award inventory. If that is a mix of revenue and award inventory, then it's possible that we'll only see one of them at launch and the remaining won't come until later.
Oct 27, 2018, 12:14 am
#885
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Still smells off to me not to have 3 revenue codes, which basically all the other *A carriers do (some have 4).