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This wiki was created to distill SDC (and related standby) down to a set of rules in the hopes of benefiting others.

The official "rules" can be found here. In practice, some of the rules almost always apply, and some are more flexible.

Present Eligiblity policy 2023

Same day changes


Premier members may be able to get another flight for free. If your original cabin isn’t available, you may have to pay a price difference.

All other travelers may be able to get another flight within 24 hours of the original flight. You may have to pay a price difference even if the same cabin is available.
Note there have been reports of SDC to one segment removing confirmed CPU upgrades on downline segments. If maintaining the confirmed upgrade is important then these changes should be handled with care.

Most Frequently Asked Question: When do I call/go online to make the change?
Follow this flowchart:
Question 1: Are you within 24 hours of your currently scheduled UA(*) operated flight that you're trying to change off of? If yes, continue to Question 2. If no, continue to answer 1.
Question 2: Are you within 24 hours of the first UA operated flight you're trying to change on to? If yes, continue to Answer 2. If no, continue to Answer 1.
Answer 1: No, you cannot call/go online yet to make an SDC.
Answer 2: Yes, then you can call/go online to make an SDC.

General Baseline Rules

These are the general rules that usually apply to SDC's; falling outside these rules usually requires payment of a full change fee and the fare difference:
  • Not available for Basic Economy (N class) tickets
  • The departure time of the first segment of the old itinerary and the departure time of the first segment of the new itinerary must both be within 24 hours of the moment that the change is made.
  • Only applies to UA/UX operated flights, domestic or international. Changing from a non-UA operated to UA operated may be possible.
  • Must be issued on UA ticket stock (ticket number begins with 016)
  • Award tickets are eligible, but an award change may be a better option (not restricted to 24 hours)
  • The ultimate origin and destination airports must remain the same.
  • Routing can be changed (addition, deletion, or change of connection points) but the routing rules of the original fare usually apply.
  • All remaining unflown segments in a single fared itinerary are considered together (i.e., if you're flying WWW-XXX-YYY-ZZZ, you can go to a kiosk at XXX and potentially fly XXX-AAA-ZZZ or XXX-ZZZ direct).
  • SDC can be done an unlimited number of times, and can, therefore, be used to extend a trip indefinitely (pending availability).
  • SDC costs $75 for non-Premiers Only premier members as of 1 Jan 2021
  • No fee for Premier (plus any applicable fare difference, see below). *G's may also get free SDC, although there is no mention of this in the official rules. Once in-route, fees for an earlier connecting flight may be waived per GG SDC Line 118.
  • Non-elites on the same PNR benefit from any waived fees for SDC.
  • No fare difference is charged so long as there is availability on all of the new segments in the originally ticketed fare class. Fare class availability in all classes often opens up after T-24 and almost always opens up at T-3 unless the plane is very full. The practice of fare leveling all fares for all flights at a specific time appears to no longer be in effect.
  • SDC on bulk tickets, including United Specials, is not permitted.
  • SDC is permitted on both domestic and international itineraries.

How to SDC

SDC can be accomplished in a few different places (in rough order of likelihood of being able to get the rules bent):
  • United mobile app
  • Kiosk
  • Phone
  • On united.com, right now only the "Search Other Flight Options" button during On-Line Check-In (OLCI) works. This has spotty availability, particularly if the change would involve paying an additional fare due to fare bucket non-availability.
  • Counter/Gate (although reports are that most airport agents are not familiar with the SDC policy and may not allow you to SDC to a valid itinerary--you can try to direct them to look up GG SDC, but they often won't understand that what you're trying to do is permitted by those rules)

Please note that the United.com “change flight” link before checking in within T-24 is broken. The website may not show all available options and will often attempt to collect the change fee rather than the SDC fee (if any).

NB: An SDC where the original itinerary (in one direction) has three or more segments cannot be done online.

Nuances and Loose Rules

Now for the hard part: figuring out where the flexibility is in the rules. This list is compiled from the responses to people saying, "Can I do X?" where X is something that is not clearly permitted by the rules. One's likelihood of success here depends a bit on the method used for the SDC.

For each item, the following codes apply:
Y = officially permitted and possible using any method
A = not permitted but perhaps possible using an agent (phone/counter), perhaps having to HUACA
A* = mixed reports of success with an agent (phone/counter),
N* = possible only if you find a very accommodating agent
N = little or no reported success.
  • Violating various non-routing fare rules (day/time, minimum stay, etc.): Y
  • Change destination to ultra-close airport (see the old S*FAR/STANDBY): A
  • Change destination to a co-terminal: N*
  • Change destination to an entirely different place: N
  • Change itinerary at the beginning to include illegal layovers (> 4 hours): N*
  • Change itinerary at the layover point (using kiosk, app, or agent) to create an otherwise illegal layover: Y
  • Change itinerary at the beginning to add a layover point not permitted by the routing rules: N*
  • Change itinerary at a layover point to add another layover not permitted (either in terms of number of segments or routing rules) by the routing rules: Y
  • Change to a flight exactly 24 hours before or after the original flight: N*
  • Change to a flight exactly 24 hours before the original flight, if the previous day's flight has been delayed: Y (based on one report)
  • Change to a flight exactly 24 hours after the original flight, if the original flight has been delayed: Y (at least in the app)
  • Combining separately-fared segments to do SDC (e.g. XXX-YYY+YYY-ZZZ -> XXX-ZZZ): A
  • Change UA-codeshare, non-UA-metal segment to UA metal: A*
  • Change from UA metal to UA-codeshare, non-UA-metal segment: N (see post 1813 for one exception)
  • Change from UA-codeshare, non-UA-metal segment to a different UA-codeshare, non-UA-metal segment: ??
  • Change on a non-UA ticketed segment: N* (with potentially dire consequences)
  • Change from an upgraded flight into Y on the new flight: Y
  • Change from a PointsPlus-upgraded flight into J/F on the new flight: A
  • Change from a CPU-upgraded flight and get confirmed into available PZ space on the new flight: N*
  • Change from an instrument-upgraded flight and get confirmed into available PZ space on the new flight: A*
  • Non-elite on different PNR benefiting from Elite's waived-fee SDC: A
  • Change at origin airport after tendering a checked bag: A - 60 minutes prior to both flights required
  • Change at layover airport when a bag has been checked: A - 60 minutes prior to both flights required
  • Change a bulk fare: A*
  • Stand-By to later flight, then SDC after original flight departs to flight within 24-hours of new Stand-By flight: Y

If you encounter issues with an agent (phone or counter/gate), you can ask the agent to reference GG SDC. Additionally, GG SDC line 61 specifically references that fare classes are supposed to level out 3.5 hours before departure, so you might be able to use that to your advantage if fare classes have not leveled out and you're trying to ask an agent to open up the correct inventory or force you onto the flight.

Note -- as of 11/27/2017: A datapoint indicates that UA may have updated its GG rule regarding leveling out to state the following:

Code:
EVERYDAY AWARD AND REVENUE BUCKETS ARE TO LEVEL OUT WITHIN 2H OF DEPARTURE

The practice of fare leveling all fares for all flights at a specific time appears no longer in effective -- it does happen in some case but appears to be more variable

Standby
For all fare classes other than Basic Economy (N class) you may standby if seats are not available in the purchased fare class. There is no longer a fee for Standby. In these cases, the same-day change fee will apply, but will not be charged unless you are assigned a seat on your alternate flight. Changes in routing are not allowed when standing by. Standby may be requested up to 24 hours of original departure on the day of departure at an airport kiosk or with a United representative at the airport or UA app. Once you are added to the flight standby list, you can check your real-time standby status at united.com/flightstatus or on your mobile device at mobile.united.com/info.

Instead of paying a same-day change discounted fee, can I stand by for my desired flight for free?
Yes No. The only time you may standby for free is when the fare does not have any penalties for making changes, or when standing by involuntarily due to a flight irregularity.

Can I pay the same-day change discount fee with cash?
Cash will only be accepted by a United airport representative when the change is available to be confirmed, not for standby travel.

Standby Nuances and Loose Rules

All nuances assume request is made within 24 hours of scheduled departure to a flight within 24 hours of the request.

For each item, the following codes apply:
Y = officially permitted and possible using any method
K = Perhaps not officially permitted, but kiosk will allow.
A = not permitted but perhaps possible using an agent (phone/counter), perhaps having to HUACA
A* = mixed reports of success with an agent (phone/counter),
N* = possible only if you find a very accommodating agent
N = little or no reported success.
  • To a flight the previous calendar day: A*/N*/K (app allows this)
  • To a flight after your ticketed flight, on the same calendar day: Y
  • To a flight the following calendar day: N*
  • Request Standby at an airport other than departure airport: Can now request Standby via app 24 hours in advance
  • Make request calendar day before scheduled flight to flight same day as scheduled departure: K

Mileage Credit after SDC
SDC is considered a voluntary change, so your credited PQM & PQS will be credited based on the route you actually fly. Your PQDs should not change and therefore for your RDMs will not change. Occasionally if you fly a fewer number of segments, your PQD will credit wrong, but a call to MPSC should correct that.

Previous threads:
UA Same-Day Travel Change (SDC) Fees/Questions (with Wiki) {Archive}
UA Same-Day Travel Change (SDC) Fees/Questions *now with WikiPost* {pre-2015 Archive}

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Old Oct 20, 2023, 11:14 am
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My bad memory, how does one find routing rules now, especially after purchase?
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Old Oct 20, 2023, 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by CApreppie
My bad memory, how does one find routing rules now, especially after purchase?
I use EF. KVS also provides them. Not sure about GF.
Don't beleive UA provides them.
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Old Oct 23, 2023, 3:47 am
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Had following itinerary with UA/LH: EWR-FRA-BER. Arrived at EWR 2 hours before my flight to FRA and noticed there was a direct UA flight to BER which was boarding. Headed to the gate, kindly asked if I could get on the direct flight and was given a new boarding pass by the gate agent within 2 minutes. Boarded last as the flight was closing by the time I arrived at the gate. To be noted, I was on a Basic Economy ticket with Star Gold status but I think the change was rather a gesture of goodwill by the agent.

Very happy with the outcome, as it saved me a 2 hour wait at EWR and a 2.5 hour connection at FRA.
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 8:55 pm
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I am booked on X fare class (purchased on Lifemiles) to fly from IAH-IAD-GRU. There is an nonstop IAH- GRU that leaves 4 hours after my flight to IAD. Will I be able to do the same day change or "alternative flights" during checkin or throughout the day if X fare class opens on the nonstop or because I am not a premier member or bought the ticket through a partner airline I am not able to change flight even if there is availability?
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 9:08 pm
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Originally Posted by ariel024
I am booked on X fare class (purchased on Lifemiles) to fly from IAH-IAD-GRU. There is a nonstop IAH- GRU that leaves 4 hours after my flight to IAD. Will I be able to do the same day change or "alternative flights" during checkin or throughout the day if X fare class opens on the nonstop or because I am not a premier member or bought the ticket through a partner airline I am not able to change flight even if there is availability?
Last year at this time, I would have said it's impossible. Today, I'm less sure, as there have been occasional reports of tickets that should have required reissuance being allowed even on partner tickets.

If there's a delay that would impair your connection, UA can definitely put you onto the nonstop, but I'm not convinced the SDC will work, for both of the reasons you mention.
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Old Oct 25, 2023, 2:31 pm
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Originally Posted by jpucd
I ended up calling United to see what my options were and as advised by all of you - the entire itinerary would have to be rebooked/reticketed in order to go SDC with a huge hike in price.
However, advised to check-in for currently ticketed flight and request standby for first flight out with high probability of getting on since lots of seats available (which I can also see online). We plan to pack for carry-on only so that will help.
jsloan - we are too far away from SFO to use that as a back-up, plus rush hour traffic would make it prohibitive anyway.
I'm optimistic that we will be ok and I will come back and post our update.
Again thank you to all - it is amazing to me how knowledgeable you are. I looked at multiple websites trying to figure out SDC and standby and everyone else just gives really basic, and in many cases, outdated information.
I realized that I never gave an update. I don't think that my particular issue will be all that helpful to others but I wanted to complete the follow-up.

FWIW, I ended up torturing my family and making them get up at 3AM. We did same day standby for the 1st flight to Denver and took the downgrade to Economy (which was not a big deal since the flight was only 2 hr and we had carry on only). We ended up sitting in the lounge for 7 hr but i finally had peace of mind that we were not going to miss our international connection/business class seats. In the end our family of 4 had a fantastic luxury African safari in which we had 12 separate flight segments. Every segment went off without a hitch for which I was so grateful. Upon our return to the US I saw those stories about flights having to return to the US for diarrhea emergencies, etc.

Ironically, the flight we were originally scheduled to take at the beginning of our trip and for which I suffered so much angst about its terrible on-time performance did go on time and we would have been fine. But I was happier to be following up on that out of curiosity rather than increasing anxiety for a possible last minute delay.

Thank you to everyone who helped me to understand the rules for SDC and SDS - I think the United agent would be grateful to all of you too since I knew exactly what my options were and what to ask for and she was able to handle it very quickly as opposed to my dithering around trying to figure out at the time of check-in. I could see her face initially and knew she was thinking "uh-oh" as I was making my request. But as I finished my request she realized I already knew I would have to take the downgrade for that initial flight and that all I wanted was to just get to Denver.
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Old Oct 25, 2023, 5:53 pm
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What do you mean about tickets needing reassurance? Also, all flight are operated by UA but purchased through lifemiles.
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Old Oct 25, 2023, 6:22 pm
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Originally Posted by ariel024
I am booked on X fare class (purchased on Lifemiles) to fly from IAH-IAD-GRU. There is an nonstop IAH- GRU that leaves 4 hours after my flight to IAD. Will I be able to do the same day change or "alternative flights" during checkin or throughout the day if X fare class opens on the nonstop or because I am not a premier member or bought the ticket through a partner airline I am not able to change flight even if there is availability?
SDC is not valid for non-016 ticket and not for non-UA elites. Standby is possible but not for a routing change.
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Old Oct 25, 2023, 6:31 pm
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What do you mean about tickets needing reassurance? Also, all flight are operated by UA but purchased through lifemiles.
There are two ways of updating a ticket to apply to different flights -- revalidating it and reissuing it. Except for irregular operations, UA can't reissue a ticket that it didn't issue in the first place. Revalidation normally wouldn't cover the scenario you're describing because you're changing from a one-step to a non-stop, so one year ago I would have given a flat 'no.' Now I'm somewhat less sure because they seem to be able to revalidate tickets that they couldn't in the past.
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Can I SDC on all UA international itinerary to an overnight connection?

Flying FRA-IAD-LGA all on UA. I prefer to SDC to last FRA-IAD flight with an overnight connection in IAD. There is no more flight to LGA after the last FRA flight arrival. That itinerary is valid to purchase but I wonder if it will be offered as SDC? I am happy to cover overnight expense at IAD.
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Old Oct 31, 2023, 12:42 pm
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Can I SDC on all UA international itinerary to an overnight connection?

Flying FRA-IAD-LGA all on UA. I prefer to SDC to last FRA-IAD flight with an overnight connection in IAD. There is no more flight to LGA after the last FRA flight arrival. That itinerary is valid to purchase but I wonder if it will be offered as SDC? I am happy to cover overnight expense at IAD.
It'll essentially be at the agent's discretion, assuming the FRA-IAD flight you want is UA-operated.
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Can I add an extra stop by using SDC?

Flying XXX-LAX-BOS

Want to change it to XXX-DEN-LAX-BOS (same LAX-BOS). No 4+ hour connection.

on app shows it wants $498 difference in fare, even though on the website its showing K9 fare class (which is my fare class).

Will there be any luck if I try it at the airport tomorrow (flight will be 4 hours earlier)

Fare code is KAK2AZDS - 2 Transfers permitted in each direction. Fare break surface sectors not permitted... is that why?

Lowly Silver here (trying to get Gold sooner with PQF).
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Old Oct 31, 2023, 11:40 pm
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Will there be any luck if I try it at the airport tomorrow (flight will be 4 hours earlier)
Maybe, or you may have luck with a phone agent. You're going to have a better shot if your starting location is, e.g., COS, and not LAS or something where gong to DEN on the way to LAX is way out of the way. If you explain that you need the PQFs for status, that may actually cause an agent to take pity on you.

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Fare code is KAK2AZDS - 2 Transfers permitted in each direction. Fare break surface sectors not permitted... is that why?
Possibly; in general, UA seems to have curtailed some of the excesses of the old SDC tool, such as seemingly endless transfers.

That said, if you have flexibility on LAX-BOS, there's a good chance that you can turn that into LAX-(ORD/IAH/DEN/IAD/EWR)-BOS once you arrive at LAX (or even while you're in the air toward LAX).
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Maybe, or you may have luck with a phone agent. You're going to have a better shot if your starting location is, e.g., COS, and not LAS or something where gong to DEN on the way to LAX is way out of the way. If you explain that you need the PQFs for status, that may actually cause an agent to take pity on you.


Possibly; in general, UA seems to have curtailed some of the excesses of the old SDC tool, such as seemingly endless transfers.

That said, if you have flexibility on LAX-BOS, there's a good chance that you can turn that into LAX-(ORD/IAH/DEN/IAD/EWR)-BOS once you arrive at LAX (or even while you're in the air toward LAX).
If this is referring to SDC through the app, I haven't seen the app behave that way in a while. My recent (past few years') experience is that before you start flying XXX-LAX-BOS, it will potentially offer a bunch of XXX-(ORD/IAH/etc)-BOS alternatives, but once you start on a routing it doesn't offer changes to it. So the only options I'd expect are different time(s) of LAX-BOS (and there are only two flights per day). IRROPS is the only exception I've seen to that behaviour. Have you seen otherwise?

I can imagine it might be easier to get an agent to change LAX-BOS into LAX-something-BOS during the layover than it would be to change XXX-LAX-BOS into XXX-DEN-LAX-BOS, but that would be luck of the draw.
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Old Nov 1, 2023, 9:04 am
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Originally Posted by fumje
If this is referring to SDC through the app, I haven't seen the app behave that way in a while. My recent (past few years') experience is that before you start flying XXX-LAX-BOS, it will potentially offer a bunch of XXX-(ORD/IAH/etc)-BOS alternatives, but once you start on a routing it doesn't offer changes to it. So the only options I'd expect are different time(s) of LAX-BOS (and there are only two flights per day). IRROPS is the only exception I've seen to that behaviour. Have you seen otherwise?

I can imagine it might be easier to get an agent to change LAX-BOS into LAX-something-BOS during the layover than it would be to change XXX-LAX-BOS into XXX-DEN-LAX-BOS, but that would be luck of the draw.
Agree with you. UA changed the SDC logic and doesn't allow additional stops once you fly the first flight. All connections from that point forward are between what's already ticketed; e.g. ORD-BOS will only show ORD-BOS flights (up to 24 hours later assuming same fare class) but will never show ORD-IAD/EWR-BOS. A phone agent may be able to do this or may push back. They may also charge additional PFCs, too.

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