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This wiki was created to distill SDC (and related standby) down to a set of rules in the hopes of benefiting others.

The official "rules" can be found here. In practice, some of the rules almost always apply, and some are more flexible.

Present Eligiblity policy 2023

Same day changes


Premier members may be able to get another flight for free. If your original cabin isn’t available, you may have to pay a price difference.

All other travelers may be able to get another flight within 24 hours of the original flight. You may have to pay a price difference even if the same cabin is available.
Note there have been reports of SDC to one segment removing confirmed CPU upgrades on downline segments. If maintaining the confirmed upgrade is important then these changes should be handled with care.

Most Frequently Asked Question: When do I call/go online to make the change?
Follow this flowchart:
Question 1: Are you within 24 hours of your currently scheduled UA(*) operated flight that you're trying to change off of? If yes, continue to Question 2. If no, continue to answer 1.
Question 2: Are you within 24 hours of the first UA operated flight you're trying to change on to? If yes, continue to Answer 2. If no, continue to Answer 1.
Answer 1: No, you cannot call/go online yet to make an SDC.
Answer 2: Yes, then you can call/go online to make an SDC.

General Baseline Rules

These are the general rules that usually apply to SDC's; falling outside these rules usually requires payment of a full change fee and the fare difference:
  • Not available for Basic Economy (N class) tickets
  • The departure time of the first segment of the old itinerary and the departure time of the first segment of the new itinerary must both be within 24 hours of the moment that the change is made.
  • Only applies to UA/UX operated flights, domestic or international. Changing from a non-UA operated to UA operated may be possible.
  • Must be issued on UA ticket stock (ticket number begins with 016)
  • Award tickets are eligible, but an award change may be a better option (not restricted to 24 hours)
  • The ultimate origin and destination airports must remain the same.
  • Routing can be changed (addition, deletion, or change of connection points) but the routing rules of the original fare usually apply.
  • All remaining unflown segments in a single fared itinerary are considered together (i.e., if you're flying WWW-XXX-YYY-ZZZ, you can go to a kiosk at XXX and potentially fly XXX-AAA-ZZZ or XXX-ZZZ direct).
  • SDC can be done an unlimited number of times, and can, therefore, be used to extend a trip indefinitely (pending availability).
  • SDC costs $75 for non-Premiers Only premier members as of 1 Jan 2021
  • No fee for Premier (plus any applicable fare difference, see below). *G's may also get free SDC, although there is no mention of this in the official rules. Once in-route, fees for an earlier connecting flight may be waived per GG SDC Line 118.
  • Non-elites on the same PNR benefit from any waived fees for SDC.
  • No fare difference is charged so long as there is availability on all of the new segments in the originally ticketed fare class. Fare class availability in all classes often opens up after T-24 and almost always opens up at T-3 unless the plane is very full. The practice of fare leveling all fares for all flights at a specific time appears to no longer be in effect.
  • SDC on bulk tickets, including United Specials, is not permitted.
  • SDC is permitted on both domestic and international itineraries.

How to SDC

SDC can be accomplished in a few different places (in rough order of likelihood of being able to get the rules bent):
  • United mobile app
  • Kiosk
  • Phone
  • On united.com, right now only the "Search Other Flight Options" button during On-Line Check-In (OLCI) works. This has spotty availability, particularly if the change would involve paying an additional fare due to fare bucket non-availability.
  • Counter/Gate (although reports are that most airport agents are not familiar with the SDC policy and may not allow you to SDC to a valid itinerary--you can try to direct them to look up GG SDC, but they often won't understand that what you're trying to do is permitted by those rules)

Please note that the United.com “change flight” link before checking in within T-24 is broken. The website may not show all available options and will often attempt to collect the change fee rather than the SDC fee (if any).

NB: An SDC where the original itinerary (in one direction) has three or more segments cannot be done online.

Nuances and Loose Rules

Now for the hard part: figuring out where the flexibility is in the rules. This list is compiled from the responses to people saying, "Can I do X?" where X is something that is not clearly permitted by the rules. One's likelihood of success here depends a bit on the method used for the SDC.

For each item, the following codes apply:
Y = officially permitted and possible using any method
A = not permitted but perhaps possible using an agent (phone/counter), perhaps having to HUACA
A* = mixed reports of success with an agent (phone/counter),
N* = possible only if you find a very accommodating agent
N = little or no reported success.
  • Violating various non-routing fare rules (day/time, minimum stay, etc.): Y
  • Change destination to ultra-close airport (see the old S*FAR/STANDBY): A
  • Change destination to a co-terminal: N*
  • Change destination to an entirely different place: N
  • Change itinerary at the beginning to include illegal layovers (> 4 hours): N*
  • Change itinerary at the layover point (using kiosk, app, or agent) to create an otherwise illegal layover: Y
  • Change itinerary at the beginning to add a layover point not permitted by the routing rules: N*
  • Change itinerary at a layover point to add another layover not permitted (either in terms of number of segments or routing rules) by the routing rules: Y
  • Change to a flight exactly 24 hours before or after the original flight: N*
  • Change to a flight exactly 24 hours before the original flight, if the previous day's flight has been delayed: Y (based on one report)
  • Change to a flight exactly 24 hours after the original flight, if the original flight has been delayed: Y (at least in the app)
  • Combining separately-fared segments to do SDC (e.g. XXX-YYY+YYY-ZZZ -> XXX-ZZZ): A
  • Change UA-codeshare, non-UA-metal segment to UA metal: A*
  • Change from UA metal to UA-codeshare, non-UA-metal segment: N (see post 1813 for one exception)
  • Change from UA-codeshare, non-UA-metal segment to a different UA-codeshare, non-UA-metal segment: ??
  • Change on a non-UA ticketed segment: N* (with potentially dire consequences)
  • Change from an upgraded flight into Y on the new flight: Y
  • Change from a PointsPlus-upgraded flight into J/F on the new flight: A
  • Change from a CPU-upgraded flight and get confirmed into available PZ space on the new flight: N*
  • Change from an instrument-upgraded flight and get confirmed into available PZ space on the new flight: A*
  • Non-elite on different PNR benefiting from Elite's waived-fee SDC: A
  • Change at origin airport after tendering a checked bag: A - 60 minutes prior to both flights required
  • Change at layover airport when a bag has been checked: A - 60 minutes prior to both flights required
  • Change a bulk fare: A*
  • Stand-By to later flight, then SDC after original flight departs to flight within 24-hours of new Stand-By flight: Y

If you encounter issues with an agent (phone or counter/gate), you can ask the agent to reference GG SDC. Additionally, GG SDC line 61 specifically references that fare classes are supposed to level out 3.5 hours before departure, so you might be able to use that to your advantage if fare classes have not leveled out and you're trying to ask an agent to open up the correct inventory or force you onto the flight.

Note -- as of 11/27/2017: A datapoint indicates that UA may have updated its GG rule regarding leveling out to state the following:

Code:
EVERYDAY AWARD AND REVENUE BUCKETS ARE TO LEVEL OUT WITHIN 2H OF DEPARTURE

The practice of fare leveling all fares for all flights at a specific time appears no longer in effective -- it does happen in some case but appears to be more variable

Standby
For all fare classes other than Basic Economy (N class) you may standby if seats are not available in the purchased fare class. There is no longer a fee for Standby. In these cases, the same-day change fee will apply, but will not be charged unless you are assigned a seat on your alternate flight. Changes in routing are not allowed when standing by. Standby may be requested up to 24 hours of original departure on the day of departure at an airport kiosk or with a United representative at the airport or UA app. Once you are added to the flight standby list, you can check your real-time standby status at united.com/flightstatus or on your mobile device at mobile.united.com/info.

Instead of paying a same-day change discounted fee, can I stand by for my desired flight for free?
Yes No. The only time you may standby for free is when the fare does not have any penalties for making changes, or when standing by involuntarily due to a flight irregularity.

Can I pay the same-day change discount fee with cash?
Cash will only be accepted by a United airport representative when the change is available to be confirmed, not for standby travel.

Standby Nuances and Loose Rules

All nuances assume request is made within 24 hours of scheduled departure to a flight within 24 hours of the request.

For each item, the following codes apply:
Y = officially permitted and possible using any method
K = Perhaps not officially permitted, but kiosk will allow.
A = not permitted but perhaps possible using an agent (phone/counter), perhaps having to HUACA
A* = mixed reports of success with an agent (phone/counter),
N* = possible only if you find a very accommodating agent
N = little or no reported success.
  • To a flight the previous calendar day: A*/N*/K (app allows this)
  • To a flight after your ticketed flight, on the same calendar day: Y
  • To a flight the following calendar day: N*
  • Request Standby at an airport other than departure airport: Can now request Standby via app 24 hours in advance
  • Make request calendar day before scheduled flight to flight same day as scheduled departure: K

Mileage Credit after SDC
SDC is considered a voluntary change, so your credited PQM & PQS will be credited based on the route you actually fly. Your PQDs should not change and therefore for your RDMs will not change. Occasionally if you fly a fewer number of segments, your PQD will credit wrong, but a call to MPSC should correct that.

Previous threads:
UA Same-Day Travel Change (SDC) Fees/Questions (with Wiki) {Archive}
UA Same-Day Travel Change (SDC) Fees/Questions *now with WikiPost* {pre-2015 Archive}

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Old Jan 14, 2024, 8:47 pm
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If I have a flight from the US to Europe with a stop over in Europe. And my first leg is with united. Can I do same day confirmed change?
stopover or connection, how long?
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Old Jan 15, 2024, 11:48 am
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Asking my friendly FT experts for help here on SDC and Standby to get extra time in LAX/LA.

Flying SFO-LAX-BOS. SFO-LAX, 7:00-8:36PM to the 10:30PM LAX-BOS flight in the near future. What are my options for getting a longer time in LAX to catch up with friend same day or day before? There are 4 flights same day that leave earlier and 3 flights the earlier calendar day that depart after that 7:00PM flight 24 hours before.

SDC: Appears I cannot create an illegal layover of over 4 hours before my trip starts which only gives me a 5:30PM flight to choose from, but depends on the rules of the ticket which I cannot access.
Standby: This appears more flexible as there are not illegal layover rules. The issue appears leaving the calendar day before flight even though 24 hours in advance should cover it.

Thanks in advance for helping me out.
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Old Jan 15, 2024, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by CApreppie
SDC: Appears I cannot create an illegal layover of over 4 hours before my trip starts which only gives me a 5:30PM flight to choose from, but depends on the rules of the ticket which I cannot access.
You’re not quite looking at that properly, though. You don’t (can’t, really) change one leg at a time. SDC is going to change from one SFO-LAX-BOS to another SFO-XXX-BOS itinerary. So in order to try to get a stopover at LAX, you’d first change to an SFO-LAX-BOS itinerary, and then, after flying SFO-LAX, you’d change to a later LAX-BOS flight, potentially including the one you’re currently on, which you would have had to change.

There’s no need to read your fare rules — for flights within the continental US, UA doesn’t allow any stopovers on discount tickets — pretty much anything below a Y fare — and a stopover is always created if the transfer time is more than 4 hours. Thee used to be an exception — more than 4 hours or the next available flight — but that hasn’t been the case in a long time. You can still try asking for it, though — try switching to a 10 PM flight departing SFO to LAX, connecting to a 6 AM flight to BOS the next morning — but be prepared to be told no.

Originally Posted by CApreppie
Standby: This appears more flexible as there are not illegal layover rules. The issue appears leaving the calendar day before flight even though 24 hours in advance should cover it.
Agreed, you can standby, but getting onto the list and through security the previous calendar day is often a challenge.

How much does it cost to book two separate tickets — SFO-LAX and LAX-BOS? Especially if you’re not traveling for a while, it may be easier just to book what you’d actually like to fly.
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Old Jan 15, 2024, 10:17 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
You’re not quite looking at that properly, though. You don’t (can’t, really) change one leg at a time. SDC is going to change from one SFO-LAX-BOS to another SFO-XXX-BOS itinerary. So in order to try to get a stopover at LAX, you’d first change to an SFO-LAX-BOS itinerary, and then, after flying SFO-LAX, you’d change to a later LAX-BOS flight, potentially including the one you’re currently on, which you would have had to change.

There’s no need to read your fare rules — for flights within the continental US, UA doesn’t allow any stopovers on discount tickets — pretty much anything below a Y fare — and a stopover is always created if the transfer time is more than 4 hours. Thee used to be an exception — more than 4 hours or the next available flight — but that hasn’t been the case in a long time. You can still try asking for it, though — try switching to a 10 PM flight departing SFO to LAX, connecting to a 6 AM flight to BOS the next morning — but be prepared to be told no.


Agreed, you can standby, but getting onto the list and through security the previous calendar day is often a challenge.

How much does it cost to book two separate tickets — SFO-LAX and LAX-BOS? Especially if you’re not traveling for a while, it may be easier just to book what you’d actually like to fly.
Thanks jsloan. Definitely have to think about SDC as one itinerary and not breaking it up.

So if one could get through security (say buying refundable ticket then canceling), is the next gauntlet getting the agent to put you on? Do some like to say "no"?

I think I'll fly standby on the first flight of the day on the scheduled day of departure. 6AM flight has plenty of space available - not exactly the most popular time to leave.

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Old Jan 17, 2024, 1:59 am
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Originally Posted by CApreppie
So if one could get through security (say buying refundable ticket then canceling), is the next gauntlet getting the agent to put you on? Do some like to say "no"?
If you get on the list, you can get past security with the resulting standby card. If you’re not on the list, want to try this trick to get through security, and then are intent to argue with the gate agent, yes, some seem to like to say no. But if you do this, keep in mind that it’s a violation of the contract of carriage. At a minimum, I’d use a different airline than UA, because UA’s impossible trip sensors might flag you otherwise.

Originally Posted by CApreppie
I think I'll fly standby on the first flight of the day on the scheduled day of departure. 6AM flight has plenty of space available - not exactly the most popular time to leave.
That seems like the easiest alternative.
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Old Jan 17, 2024, 8:18 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
That seems like the easiest alternative.
It was until even the 6AM flight zeroed out except for one F fare for $1485! Then the other flights during the day aren't even showing for sale until the 7PM flight. I guess take my chances flying standby and let the dice fall.
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Is it possible to standby on earlier flight (MEX-SFO) with checked bag?

Traveling later this week from MEX-SFO. Confirmed ticket, booking class L, on UA 1272, departing 18:10. I have no status with UA or Star Alliance.

Would like to standby on that morning's UA 820, departing 06:05.

My understanding is I can use the United app to get my name on the standby list 24 hours before my ticketed flight departure (18:10).

Since this is an international flight that would require bag matching, is there any way to standby with a checked bag? I don't mind if the bag arrives on a later flight.

Would waiting until I arrive at the airport to check the bag make a difference (instead of paying for the checked bag in advance)?

Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Old Jan 20, 2024, 8:29 pm
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Originally Posted by halcyon_journey
Since this is an international flight that would require bag matching, is there any way to standby with a checked bag? I don't mind if the bag arrives on a later flight.
In theory, they can tag your bag as standby and load it iff you clear. In practice, they really don’t like to do it and I wouldn’t count on it happening.
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Old Jan 21, 2024, 2:42 pm
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Originally Posted by CApreppie
It was until even the 6AM flight zeroed out except for one F fare for $1485! Then the other flights during the day aren't even showing for sale until the 7PM flight. I guess take my chances flying standby and let the dice fall.
Went to the airport before the 6AM flight and the agent added me to the standby list. I got called up during group 3 boarding and given choice of E+ middle or E- window. Chose the E+ middle. All 12ish people on the standby list got on the plane and a few seats left unoccupied.

Thanks everyone for the help. Worked out great.
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I now have a horrible itinerary from NYC (LGA) to SFO with two transfers. I chose it as the other options were twice expensive.
I've done it few times but when I tried this on the app it shows the ones in the exactly same letter class (L for L, K for K) so I am not sure if it is the case, maybe I was confused.

What would be the best strategy to get a direct flight, or at least only with one transit? I also would like to change the airport to EWR if I can as it has a direct flight to SFO.
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Old Feb 7, 2024, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by LaziestRaccoon
I now have a horrible itinerary from NYC (LGA) to SFO with two transfers. I chose it as the other options were twice expensive.
I've done it few times but when I tried this on the app it shows the ones in the exactly same letter class (L for L, K for K) so I am not sure if it is the case, maybe I was confused.

What would be the best strategy to get a direct flight, or at least only with one transit? I also would like to change the airport to EWR if I can as it has a direct flight to SFO.
cancel and rebook. you can’t change origin airport for free unless IRROPS
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Old Feb 7, 2024, 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by unitedwildcat
cancel and rebook. you can’t change origin airport for free unless IRROPS
Aren't they regarded as the same airport NYC? Or isn't it the case for SDC?
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Old Feb 7, 2024, 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by LaziestRaccoon
Aren't they regarded as the same airport NYC? Or isn't it the case for SDC?
not the case for SDC
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Old Feb 7, 2024, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by unitedwildcat
not the case for SDC
Thanks. By the way, is there no hope to expect there'll be any cheap K seats available by that time of check-in? Then it's useless to even think about this whole thing...
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