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#271
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: ORD
Posts: 86
I think you're guess is as good as anyone's. I doubt United understands how that works as well. I've spoken to 2 reps on the phone and both gave a difference answer. After splitting the res, 1st rep said that only I would potentially be on the upgrade list (UA Gold), which is logical. If I declined to split the res then we're declining to be upgraded.
2nd rep said that if I declined to split the res, hence we're were both on the record locator, we'd both be picked up on the upgrade list.
Trip report:
Outbound: Upgraded to First. But that was before separate the record locators. First flt on Fri to DCA. Don't know the usual loads, but seemed somewhat full.
Inbound: No upgrade. Separate record locators. Full and oversold flight in F and Y.
2nd rep said that if I declined to split the res, hence we're were both on the record locator, we'd both be picked up on the upgrade list.
Trip report:
Outbound: Upgraded to First. But that was before separate the record locators. First flt on Fri to DCA. Don't know the usual loads, but seemed somewhat full.
Inbound: No upgrade. Separate record locators. Full and oversold flight in F and Y.
#272
Ambassador: Thai Airways
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bangkok
Programs: UA 1k, TG Gold, LT Bonvoy Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 1,035
It wasn't clear to me if you split at check-in (be it OLIC or airport) OR you split on your own (be it via website or call an agent). Each method will yield totally different results. The latter will be treated as if you book two separate bookings from the beginning meaning no companion tied to your booking whatsoever.
#273
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: los angeles
Programs: spg-gold,marriott-gold,priority-platinum,united-1K
Posts: 68
This whole thing is a real point of frustration for me.
Another data point - traveled last weekend IAH - SFO round trip. The reservation had myself (1K), wife (Silver), and infant son (trash).
We had a Friday morning departure, so I wasn't expecting an upgrade, though I did see a lot of names on the list (it was on the 763, so lots of seats in F). None of use cleared in advance. At OLCI, the computer asked if the eligible travelers (wife & I only) wanted upgrades. Since I figured that the new people taking our coach seats wouldn't want to babysit my 6 month old son, I said no. This apparently kept us off the CPU run for both the outbound and the return on Tuesday, since we never showed up on the standby list for either segment.
Another change I like!
CLG
Another data point - traveled last weekend IAH - SFO round trip. The reservation had myself (1K), wife (Silver), and infant son (trash).
We had a Friday morning departure, so I wasn't expecting an upgrade, though I did see a lot of names on the list (it was on the 763, so lots of seats in F). None of use cleared in advance. At OLCI, the computer asked if the eligible travelers (wife & I only) wanted upgrades. Since I figured that the new people taking our coach seats wouldn't want to babysit my 6 month old son, I said no. This apparently kept us off the CPU run for both the outbound and the return on Tuesday, since we never showed up on the standby list for either segment.
Another change I like!
CLG
#274
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Here and there
Programs: General member, former 1P
Posts: 583
To avoid any accidental or unwitting auto-split of a PNR on a return trip, I now book all my trips as separate one-ways. Makes no difference in price (I travel 99 percent domestically) and removes the chance for many of the headaches others have written about here.
Of course, that means twice as much babysitting of seat assignments, schedule changes, etc. Worth it to me.
To complicate matters further, when it's three of us traveling - me (1P), Mrs. Flavorflav (*S on US) and Master Flavorflav (2P) - I book my wife and I on one PNR and my son by himself on another PNR. Laborious but it maximizes our chances for all three of us to go up front should space be available. All three of us clear more often than you might think. And no, Master Flavorflav never sits by himself. Having his own PNR is nothing more than a strategy to grab the CPU. If just one or two of the three-person party gets the upgrade, usually Mrs. Flavorflav goes up front while Master Flavorflav and I sit in the back.
So we have some round trips where there are four PNRs for three people. The lengths we go to to master the system...
Of course, that means twice as much babysitting of seat assignments, schedule changes, etc. Worth it to me.
To complicate matters further, when it's three of us traveling - me (1P), Mrs. Flavorflav (*S on US) and Master Flavorflav (2P) - I book my wife and I on one PNR and my son by himself on another PNR. Laborious but it maximizes our chances for all three of us to go up front should space be available. All three of us clear more often than you might think. And no, Master Flavorflav never sits by himself. Having his own PNR is nothing more than a strategy to grab the CPU. If just one or two of the three-person party gets the upgrade, usually Mrs. Flavorflav goes up front while Master Flavorflav and I sit in the back.
So we have some round trips where there are four PNRs for three people. The lengths we go to to master the system...
#275
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: IAH
Programs: UA nada, Hyatt Disc, Hilton Gold
Posts: 846
While I am impressed by your perseverance, it is patently ridiculous that the reservation system is so bizarre and misunderstood by both passengers and agents that we have to play these kinds of games just to keep seat assignments.
#276
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,172
Just be glad (I'm guessing) you don't fly to/from EWR, as what your doing would cause you severe financial pains with that airport
#277
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: BNE/OOL temporarily-permanently at CAK/PIT
Programs: UA*1K & UA Club, National Ex. Elite, Hertz Pres. Circ., Amex Plat., CLEAR
Posts: 1,703
Not that it's done me any good, since I booked a ticket with $50 in my TravelBank; United charged my credit card for the $50 a week later and, half a year later, has yet to give me my TravelBank funds back.
Yet another companion trip; myself 1K, Mrs Joshua a Gold, and no upgrade cleared. Bargain F inventory is 5 seats out of a 20 seat cabin. Called up to the split the record, as usual. We'll probably both clear independently.
I'd be less aggravated about this if we still got an RPU every 10k flown miles, but RPUs are pretty precious nowadays.
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#278
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: LAX
Programs: UA Plat MM, CM Plat, Amex Plat, Hertz CP, Hyatt Globalist, SPG Gold, Vons Club
Posts: 6,854
So if a 1K and a 1P are traveling together, would you create 1 PNR or Separate PNR's for each PAX? My school of thought, isnt it better to have 1 PNR so both PAX clear at the 1K window for UDU?
#279
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: WAS
Programs: UA Premier Gold
Posts: 405
In the end, I got my companion added back to the upgrade standby list at the airport, and she magically cleared for both flights due to last-minute no-shows. But what a headache! The DCA club agents said they'd seen this happen before, and had no advice on how to prevent a companion from being randomly lost at check-in.
#280
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: WAS
Programs: UA Silver, Marriott Gold, IHG Silver, Hilton Silver, Hertz PC, National Exec Elite, Avis PC
Posts: 1,308
FWIW on a recent return flight with a companion (after the reservation was split), we were both added to the upgrade list automatically and next to each other at checkin/T-24. It was showing R=0 until that point, so I don't know if we would have cleared at the Gold window as we did on the outbound.
#281
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At risk of cross posting I thought I'd add this nugget:
Last week I did an online checkin and did NOT request an upgrade but my reservation record was split into 3 records for 4 family members. Apparently my 3-year old was assigned as my "companion" for CPU and Mrs. B and my 6-year old got split into another record. When I arrived at SFO, I told the CSR that I did not want to be upgraded, so he took me off the list. I guess he did not think it necessary to take my 3-year old off the list because she was paged at the gate for an F upgrade (which I declined on her behalf). As she does not have an MP card, I gather she must have leapfrogged a few elites with my 1K status
Last week I did an online checkin and did NOT request an upgrade but my reservation record was split into 3 records for 4 family members. Apparently my 3-year old was assigned as my "companion" for CPU and Mrs. B and my 6-year old got split into another record. When I arrived at SFO, I told the CSR that I did not want to be upgraded, so he took me off the list. I guess he did not think it necessary to take my 3-year old off the list because she was paged at the gate for an F upgrade (which I declined on her behalf). As she does not have an MP card, I gather she must have leapfrogged a few elites with my 1K status
#282
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: DFW
Programs: AA PLT
Posts: 487
Experience with auto-splitting
My partner and I have had a reservation get split at check-in. Here's our experiences with this...
What worked correctly - my partner was added to the upgrade standby list, his boarding pass says "Premier Access", his boarding group is 3, and he was not charged for 1st bag
What's not working correctly - on the return trip my partner was not cleared at T-24 into F even though I was and the F cabin is still F5 R5 RN5, he can't choose E+ seats without paying a fee
What worked correctly - my partner was added to the upgrade standby list, his boarding pass says "Premier Access", his boarding group is 3, and he was not charged for 1st bag
What's not working correctly - on the return trip my partner was not cleared at T-24 into F even though I was and the F cabin is still F5 R5 RN5, he can't choose E+ seats without paying a fee
#283
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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My partner and I have had a reservation get split at check-in. Here's our experiences with this...
What worked correctly - my partner was added to the upgrade standby list, his boarding pass says "Premier Access", his boarding group is 3, and he was not charged for 1st bag
What's not working correctly - on the return trip my partner was not cleared at T-24 into F even though I was and the F cabin is still F5 R5 RN5, he can't choose E+ seats without paying a fee
What worked correctly - my partner was added to the upgrade standby list, his boarding pass says "Premier Access", his boarding group is 3, and he was not charged for 1st bag
What's not working correctly - on the return trip my partner was not cleared at T-24 into F even though I was and the F cabin is still F5 R5 RN5, he can't choose E+ seats without paying a fee
#284
Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold, Starwood Gold
Posts: 951
What should I ask the check in attendant for specifically when checking in my no-status travel partner within 24 hours at the airport?
#285
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Houston, TX USA
Programs: United Platinum, Marriott Plat, Hilton Diamond, Avis President's Circle
Posts: 569
Ok, so what exactly do I need to do to get all 3 of us on the upgrade list?
I'm flying tomorrow (1K) with my wife (silver) and son (dirt) on UA1146 IAH-EWR. Right now it is holding back about 8 seats for sale / upgrade (R=8). I haven't checked in yet, because it seems every time I'm flying with a companion I do something wrong... and we never show up on the upgrade list.
Oh wise ones, how can I end up with all 3 of us on the list, but minimize the chances of only 1 of us getting upgraded?
Thanks!
CLG
I'm flying tomorrow (1K) with my wife (silver) and son (dirt) on UA1146 IAH-EWR. Right now it is holding back about 8 seats for sale / upgrade (R=8). I haven't checked in yet, because it seems every time I'm flying with a companion I do something wrong... and we never show up on the upgrade list.
Oh wise ones, how can I end up with all 3 of us on the list, but minimize the chances of only 1 of us getting upgraded?
Thanks!
CLG