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Old Feb 21, 2017, 2:36 pm
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Current 77W Routes:
SFO/HKG (UA 862/869) Started 25MAR17
EWR/TLV (UA 90/91) Started 5MAY17
SFO/NRT (UA 837/838) Started 14JUN17
SFO/TPE (UA 871/872) Started 1AUG17
SFO/FRA (UA 58/59) Started 5OCT17
EWR/NRT (UA 79/78) Started 28OCT17
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Resumes seasonal service 27OCT18 - 29MAR19 (non-seasonal 3x weekly service operated by 772)
SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) Started 23APR18, ends 26OCT18, resumes 30MAR19
SFO/TLV (UA 954/955) Started 23MAY18
EWR/BOM (UA 48/49) Started 27OCT18
EWR/HKG (UA 179/180) Started 30MAR19

Current Non-77W routes
772 Retrofit:
EWR/BRU (UA 999/998) Started 30MAR19
EWR/CDG (UA 57/56) Started 30MAR19
IAD/BRU (UA 950/951) Started 30MAR19
IAD/CDG (UA 915/914) Starts 29APR19
IAD/TLV (UA 72/73) Starts 22MAY19, 3x weekly
SFO/PEK (UA 888/889) Started 30MAR19
SFO/FRA (UA 926/927) Started 30MAR19
SFO/CDG (UA 990/984) Starts 29APR19
SFO/ICN (UA 805/806) Started 1APR19, 4x weekly
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Started off-season service 30MAR19, 3x weekly

Past routes:
EWR/FRA (UA 960/961) 24MAR18 - 31JUL18 (now operated by 78J)
SFO/EWR (various), currently operated by 752, 78J, 77G
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 8:18 pm
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All international business class flights on UA ( except some S.America routes) are Polaris business class. If you are looking for Polaris seats, those are on 777-300s and a few 767s. If you see a blue seatmap instead of orange seats, you have the Polaris seats.
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 8:26 pm
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Originally Posted by IADFlyer123
All international business class flights on UA ( except some S.America routes) are Polaris business class. If you are looking for Polaris seats, those are on 777-300s and a few 767s. If you see a blue seatmap instead of orange seats, you have the Polaris seats.
A couple 772s also have the new seating.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...hedule-87.html
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 9:25 pm
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Originally Posted by IADFlyer123
All international business class flights on UA ( except some S.America routes) are Polaris business class...
Canadian/Mexico/Central America/Caribbean front cabins are marketed as Business, so not all int’l business class flights on UA are Polaris. However, all Business cabins marketed as Polaris Business are Polaris Business class🙂
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 10:40 pm
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Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
all Business cabins marketed as Polaris Business are Polaris Business class🙂
Exactly! No other rule or generalization need be stated.
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 11:08 pm
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But seat maps on UA still show 2-4-2 config - Flight 901 SFO to LHR
I've read the posts on this forum but when i look at seats it still shows the the old 2-4-2 config on flight 901. What am i missing here?
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 11:45 pm
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Depends on the day
Originally Posted by iain6508
I've read the posts on this forum but when i look at seats it still shows the the old 2-4-2 config on flight 901. What am i missing here?
901 is normally a new configuration 77W and the later flight 930 is an old 777-200 2-4-2 configuration. For instance, next Saturday is set up that way, which is why I’m taking the earlier flight.

But frame swaps or occasional changes are certainly possible. If your timing is flexible check the seat map for 930 on the same day, or 901 a day earlier or later.

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Old Sep 4, 2018, 3:47 am
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Flew GRU to ORD Aug 29th and it was a 777-200 with polaris interior.
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 7:58 am
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Originally Posted by HkCaGu
Also, HKG and NRT crews still need to somehow operate from their bases and obviously can't operate domestic.
Theoretically, LHR/FRA/NRT/HKG flight attendants can staff domestic legs as part of a longhaul pairing to/from their domicile, but logistically it doesn't make much sense.
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 11:13 pm
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I selected flight 901 based on the wiki post:

SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) - StartedApril 23, 2018 (Previously scheduled in March)

However checking the seat map (again) it still shows the old config for both flights (UA901 & UA930) out in Dec: Sorry to be a pain here but I haven't flown United in years, if the plane changes how do they handle the pre-assigned seating for a family of four?

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Old Sep 4, 2018, 11:39 pm
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Originally Posted by iain6508
if the plane changes how do they handle the pre-assigned seating for a family of four?
They don't. Groups often get split up when there's an aircraft swap. It pays to keep an eye on your reservation and claim the best possible seats you can get after a swap; even if you can't get back together, having good seats will provide currency for trading once you're on the plane.

It's likely that there will be other groups looking to trade if a swap happens.
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Old Sep 5, 2018, 8:05 am
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Originally Posted by iain6508
I selected flight 901 based on the wiki post:

SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) - StartedApril 23, 2018 (Previously scheduled in March)

However checking the seat map (again) it still shows the old config for both flights (UA901 & UA930) out in Dec: Sorry to be a pain here but I haven't flown United in years, if the plane changes how do they handle the pre-assigned seating for a family of four?

If the seat map changes, it will be to the 1-2-1 Polaris seat config... in which case you have no choice but to split into 2's... and for the word, these seats are far superior and worth it. Since there are only 5 B772s with the new Polaris and PE seating with a few more coming in the next couple of months, chances are that the old config is what you will get and nothing changes.
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Old Sep 5, 2018, 10:01 am
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So I have been looking at LHR-SFO-LHR flights for Oct/Nov, and on the 777-200 on the flights I have selected the F seats in E+ and E have always been greyed out. It is lots of flights I have noticed this on when I have been looking. The 777-200 is actually 9 across isn't it? So, there is no F in economy (geddit? ) and I guess they have made change to show the 10 across for the old planes but they are not really. But for the 777-200 20C/H does not exist (I believe) so if it shows 777-200 and I select 20B/J will I get an aisle seat?
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Old Sep 5, 2018, 10:09 am
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interesting - 901 SFO-LHR seems to have reverted to a 777-200 for all of December
Originally Posted by iain6508
I selected flight 901 based on the wiki post:

SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) - StartedApril 23, 2018 (Previously scheduled in March)

However checking the seat map (again) it still shows the old config for both flights (UA901 & UA930) out in Dec: Sorry to be a pain here but I haven't flown United in years, if the plane changes how do they handle the pre-assigned seating for a family of four?

Right, 901 (and 930 still) are now 777-200 all thru December, or at least for the dozen or so dates I checked. I wonder why? Maybe shifting the 77W to a higher demand route? I would have thought that SFO-LHR is a high demand route, and there are multiple other carriers serving it non-stop.
I’d also expect there to be MORE Polaris seat planes by December, not fewer, so reassigning a “good” plane makes even less sense.
Odd.
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Old Sep 5, 2018, 1:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Silver Fox
So I have been looking at LHR-SFO-LHR flights for Oct/Nov, and on the 777-200 on the flights I have selected the F seats in E+ and E have always been greyed out. It is lots of flights I have noticed this on when I have been looking. The 777-200 is actually 9 across isn't it? So, there is no F in economy (geddit? ) and I guess they have made change to show the 10 across for the old planes but they are not really. But for the 777-200 20C/H does not exist (I believe) so if it shows 777-200 and I select 20B/J will I get an aisle seat?
You're looking for the info in https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...my-2018-a.html

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Right, 901 (and 930 still) are now 777-200 all thru December, or at least for the dozen or so dates I checked. I wonder why? Maybe shifting the 77W to a higher demand route? I would have thought that SFO-LHR is a high demand route, and there are multiple other carriers serving it non-stop.
I’d also expect there to be MORE Polaris seat planes by December, not fewer, so reassigning a “good” plane makes even less sense.
Odd.
I believe they are downgauging to double-daily 772 because of the seasonal drop in Y demand... although it also drops the J seat count by 12 so I'm not sure. AKL gets a 77W at the end of October, and there might be other routes that need the frame.
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