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Old Jun 2, 2016, 9:06 am
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As there are multi-threads on inflight service and meals, will re-focus this thread on the hard product, the seats (and things related to the seat -- pillows, pads, blankets, ...)

United website - Explore: http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris-business-class/p/1
from UA's Facebook stream
Only customers traveling in United Polaris business class or United Polaris Global First on international flights and customers in Star Alliance international first or business class cabins on flights longer than six hours will have access to the United Polaris Lounge.
Official Polaris Lounge Access Rules are here: Polaris Lounge Access Rules

United Polaris Business and Polaris First pax may access the Polaris lounge at connecting airports and their final destination within 24 hours of departure or arrival.

*A international J and F pax may only access the Polaris lounge at the departure airport. For purposes of Polaris lounge access, Canada, the Caribbean, Central America, and Guam are excluded from the definition of "international."

Seat Chart.

Press release: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300278706.html

NEW YORK, June 2, 2016 /PRNewswire/ -- With the aspiration of making weary business travel a relic of the past, United Airlines today unveiled its all-new United Polaris business class, the airline's most significant product transformation in more than a decade, featuring a reimagined, sleep-enhancing, departure-to-landing experience for intercontinental travelers.

Named after the North Star, United Polaris is the shining new star of business class travel that flyers can turn to for a tranquil and restful journey.

"United Polaris will change the game in international business travel with an exceptional level of relaxation and comfort throughout our customers' journeys," said Oscar Munoz, president and CEO of United. "This completely reconceived experience exemplifies the new spirit of United and the innovation, excitement and operational momentum across our airline."

Path-Breaking Design

In setting out to create a transformative business class experience, United chose to outfit its widebody fleet with a custom-designed, exclusive-to-United seat, rather than select an option already in the marketplace. Designed in partnership with Acumen Design Associates and PriestmanGoode and manufactured by Zodiac Seats United Kingdom, each United Polaris seat will offer direct access to the aisle, 180-degree flat-bed recline and up to 6 foot 6 inches of bed space.

Crafted as individual, forward-facing, suite-like pods, each customer's personal suite will feature a "Do Not Disturb" sign, mood lighting, one-touch lumbar support, several storage areas, multiple surfaces for simultaneous working and dining, a 16-inch high-definition entertainment screen and, for seats in the center of the cabin, electronic privacy dividers. Complementing the new seats, United and PriestmanGoode have also conceived an all-new look for the United Polaris cabins.

In rethinking the international business class experience, United conducted more than 12,000 hours of research, and sleep emerged as the single most important priority for international business class travelers. United Polaris' path-breaking design and sleep-enhancing focus was inspired and informed by insights from hundreds of customers and employees, inflight product simulations and more than 100 product evaluations.

Sleep-Enticing Amenities

In addition to the sleep-enticing United Polaris personal suites, several other amenities were designed with our customers' sleep in mind.

In a first-of-its-kind partnership, United has worked with leading luxury specialty store Saks Fifth Avenue for custom-designed bedding. All designed to provide the best sleep in the sky, the new bedding collection will feature plush duvets, lightweight day-blankets and a large and small pillow for each United Polaris customer. In addition, mattress cushions will be available upon request.

Slippers will be available on all flights, and customized United Polaris pajamas will be available by request on flights longer than 12 hours**. Flyers will also be able to request a gel-cooled pillow. New amenity kits will feature ergonomically designed eye shades, calming lavender pillow mist and additional products from Soho House & Co.'s Cowshed Spa.

With the introduction of United Polaris, the airline intends to donate tens of thousands of pillows, blankets and other inflight service items to Fisher House Foundation, which United and its employees have long supported.

Elevated Dining Experience

Upon boarding their flight, each United Polaris customer will be welcomed with a pre-departure beverage of his or her choice and gourmet chocolate. While in the air, customers will enjoy regionally influenced in-flight menus updated seasonally, developed in partnership with The Trotter Project and its critically recognized chefs, including Bill Kim of acclaimed Chicago restaurants Urbanbelly, bellyQ and Belly Shack.

The airline will offer an upgraded wine experience, with the highest-quality options curated exclusively by United's Master Sommelier. Inflight service will also include made-to-order signature ice cream sundaes, a dessert cart with a variety of petit dessert options, chocolate truffles and wine flights. On daytime flights longer than eight hours and on all flights longer than 12 hours, hot mid-flight snacks such as lobster macaroni and cheese will be available.

Raising The Bar With United Polaris Business Class Lounges

United will also open an exclusive portfolio of United Polaris business class lounges in nine locations around the world – the only lounge of its kind offered by a U.S. airline to business class customers – that will feature custom-designed chairs, private daybeds, spa-like showers and chef-inspired hot meals served in a boutique restaurant setting so customers can refresh and dine before boarding their planes. Premium sparkling wines and spirits, refreshing snacks and bottled water will also be offered.

The first new United Polaris lounge will open at Chicago O'Hare International Airport on Dec. 1, 2016. Lounges in eight other locations – Los Angeles, San Francisco, Houston, New York/Newark, Washington Dulles, Tokyo Narita, Hong Kong and London Heathrow – will follow in 2017.

United Polaris Introduction

United will begin to introduce United Polaris on Dec. 1, 2016, with the new inflight food and beverage experience, new custom bedding from Saks Fifth Avenue, new amenity kits and the new United Polaris lounge in Chicago. The United Polaris business class seat will first take flight in December on Boeing 777-300ER aircraft and subsequently on Boeing 787-10 and Airbus A350-1000 aircraft, as well as on Boeing 767-300 and 777-200 retrofits.

United Polaris will serve business class customers flying the U.S. airline industry's most global route network, reaching more than 330 destinations in more than 50 countries.

More information on the United Polaris business class can be found at united.com/Polaris.

[From [email][email protected] 11/15/2016]
Starting December 1, 2016, United Polaris Business Class service will replace United BusinessFirst service on international flights, and United Polaris Global First service will replace the current United Global First service.

Between 2017 to 2019 eight additional United Polaris lounges will open at EWR, HKG, IAD, IAH, LAX, LHR, NRT and SFO. We do not have the exact opening dates at this time. A scheduling announcement will be forthcoming.
** Flights with pajama service (for both directions)
SFO - ICN, PEK, PVG, HGH, XIV, TPE, AKL, HKG, CTU, SYD, TLV, SIN
EWR - NRT, PEK, DEL, BOM, HKG, PVG
ORD - NRT, PEK PVG, HKG
LAX - PVG, SYD, MEL, SIN
IAD - NRT, PEK
IAH - NRT, SYD
(from United Twitter feed https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyjFHZLW...jpg&name=large

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Old Jul 27, 2019, 6:19 pm
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I find it much more preferable to spend a few more minutes in the lounge and just board towards the end.
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Originally Posted by hirohito888
That just depends on the airport gate configuration. Unfortunately EWR doesn't have many dual-jet bridges. But even then some airlines, such as AF (and I think LH) don't allow J passengers to board through door 1 since they don't want J passengers traversing the F cabin.
EWR doesn't have any dual-jet bridges.
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I find it much more preferable to spend a few more minutes in the lounge and just board towards the end.
That's certainly the best way to avoid waiting in line. You also skip having the entire Y cabin pass your seat during boarding.
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Old Jul 28, 2019, 7:22 am
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That's certainly the best way to avoid waiting in line. You also skip having the entire Y cabin pass your seat during boarding.
but good luck finding space for your carry on.
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Old Jul 28, 2019, 7:48 am
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Originally Posted by porciuscato
Most likely it was this (which actually is a Bordeaux).

https://www.thewinebuyer.com/sku31543.html

About the cheapest (and worst) wine with the word Medoc on it.
I've had that Greysac before. I thought it was quite nice. But $20 is my normal price range. Maybe I should pay more next time?
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Originally Posted by milepig
but good luck finding space for your carry on.
On long-haul Polaris? That's just nonsense.
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Old Jul 28, 2019, 9:25 am
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True for international, but I still don’t mind being there when boarding starts (gates have been known to change), make sure there is no seat poacher, settle in, get my electronics arranged, have a PDB. The hard part of travel is when things don’t go smoothly, and I like to leave time to deal with that. I also don’t like to rush. Too stressful.

Personally, I’ll miss boarding with 1Ks when I miss the mile qualification next year, but I’ll live.
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On long-haul Polaris? That's just nonsense.
Aye; I regularly have a whole bin to myself, at least on the old 77Y.
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On long-haul Polaris? That's just nonsense.
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Aye; I regularly have a whole bin to myself, at least on the old 77Y.
You are both correct. I had a brain fart and slipped into domestic mode.
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Old Aug 27, 2019, 7:05 pm
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And in a couple of years when they're finished with the retrofits and the new aircraft deliveries, the first Polaris cabins will be looking dated.

Competition will have better hard product by then?
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Old Aug 27, 2019, 8:19 pm
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.... Competition will have better hard product by then?
Certainly, that is just the nature of this business. It is a continuous leapfrogging process, due to the cost of these improvements, impossible to stay ahead continuously. And yes, it is common by the time it is fully deployed, someone else has got something better -- which will take them years to deploy and by the time they are done, some other competitor is introducing something better. This story has played out, over and over for decades.
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I've seen some J pods which have seen better days. They don't necessarily have to change the layout but after 7-8 years of heavy service, just redoing the upholstery might be a big help, though upgrades to IFE would be nice then too.

The Alitalia J cabin was spacious when I flew it like 5-6 years ago but it wasn't the cleanest and the screens were dim. It was 1-2-1 so the layout was perfect but the pods were already looking old.

One time I flew the DL LAX-SYD in J, it also looked worn out.
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Gosh, I thought it was just me - and I am by no means in the Dom Deluise size category. I can use the tray if my seat is fully upright, but the moment I recline the seat, half of my body loses circulation. Why in the world these seats were ordered without a sliding tray table is beyond me - I can imagine it's basically impossible for someone with substantial girth to open it at all.
Re A320 - I just experienced this yesterday and fully concur. Why won’t the tray slide forward? Poor design. Clearly a Smisek special.
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Old Aug 28, 2019, 1:06 am
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Re A320 - I just experienced this yesterday and fully concur. Why won’t the tray slide forward? Poor design. Clearly a Smisek special.
along with the slightly shorter seat belts in the 739. I wonder how much they saved by using 2 inches less strap on each seat!
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Old Aug 28, 2019, 3:25 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
Certainly, that is just the nature of this business. It is a continuous leapfrogging process, due to the cost of these improvements, impossible to stay ahead continuously. And yes, it is common by the time it is fully deployed, someone else has got something better -- which will take them years to deploy and by the time they are done, some other competitor is introducing something better. This story has played out, over and over for decades.
Yes, however, when you have new aircraft delivered with inferior interiors at the get go (787's) then it's harder to play catch up because the added cost to refurbish the wont be cost effective since you haven't gotten the usage out of them old product. This has been talked about many times on this very forum. It seem that UA made a mistake by doing this and will always be last in upgrading their cabins.
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