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Old Jun 2, 2016, 9:06 am
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As there are multi-threads on inflight service and meals, will re-focus this thread on the hard product, the seats (and things related to the seat -- pillows, pads, blankets, ...)

United website - Explore: http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris-business-class/p/1
from UA's Facebook stream
Only customers traveling in United Polaris business class or United Polaris Global First on international flights and customers in Star Alliance international first or business class cabins on flights longer than six hours will have access to the United Polaris Lounge.
Official Polaris Lounge Access Rules are here: Polaris Lounge Access Rules

United Polaris Business and Polaris First pax may access the Polaris lounge at connecting airports and their final destination within 24 hours of departure or arrival.

*A international J and F pax may only access the Polaris lounge at the departure airport. For purposes of Polaris lounge access, Canada, the Caribbean, Central America, and Guam are excluded from the definition of "international."

Seat Chart.

Press release: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300278706.html

NEW YORK, June 2, 2016 /PRNewswire/ -- With the aspiration of making weary business travel a relic of the past, United Airlines today unveiled its all-new United Polaris business class, the airline's most significant product transformation in more than a decade, featuring a reimagined, sleep-enhancing, departure-to-landing experience for intercontinental travelers.

Named after the North Star, United Polaris is the shining new star of business class travel that flyers can turn to for a tranquil and restful journey.

"United Polaris will change the game in international business travel with an exceptional level of relaxation and comfort throughout our customers' journeys," said Oscar Munoz, president and CEO of United. "This completely reconceived experience exemplifies the new spirit of United and the innovation, excitement and operational momentum across our airline."

Path-Breaking Design

In setting out to create a transformative business class experience, United chose to outfit its widebody fleet with a custom-designed, exclusive-to-United seat, rather than select an option already in the marketplace. Designed in partnership with Acumen Design Associates and PriestmanGoode and manufactured by Zodiac Seats United Kingdom, each United Polaris seat will offer direct access to the aisle, 180-degree flat-bed recline and up to 6 foot 6 inches of bed space.

Crafted as individual, forward-facing, suite-like pods, each customer's personal suite will feature a "Do Not Disturb" sign, mood lighting, one-touch lumbar support, several storage areas, multiple surfaces for simultaneous working and dining, a 16-inch high-definition entertainment screen and, for seats in the center of the cabin, electronic privacy dividers. Complementing the new seats, United and PriestmanGoode have also conceived an all-new look for the United Polaris cabins.

In rethinking the international business class experience, United conducted more than 12,000 hours of research, and sleep emerged as the single most important priority for international business class travelers. United Polaris' path-breaking design and sleep-enhancing focus was inspired and informed by insights from hundreds of customers and employees, inflight product simulations and more than 100 product evaluations.

Sleep-Enticing Amenities

In addition to the sleep-enticing United Polaris personal suites, several other amenities were designed with our customers' sleep in mind.

In a first-of-its-kind partnership, United has worked with leading luxury specialty store Saks Fifth Avenue for custom-designed bedding. All designed to provide the best sleep in the sky, the new bedding collection will feature plush duvets, lightweight day-blankets and a large and small pillow for each United Polaris customer. In addition, mattress cushions will be available upon request.

Slippers will be available on all flights, and customized United Polaris pajamas will be available by request on flights longer than 12 hours**. Flyers will also be able to request a gel-cooled pillow. New amenity kits will feature ergonomically designed eye shades, calming lavender pillow mist and additional products from Soho House & Co.'s Cowshed Spa.

With the introduction of United Polaris, the airline intends to donate tens of thousands of pillows, blankets and other inflight service items to Fisher House Foundation, which United and its employees have long supported.

Elevated Dining Experience

Upon boarding their flight, each United Polaris customer will be welcomed with a pre-departure beverage of his or her choice and gourmet chocolate. While in the air, customers will enjoy regionally influenced in-flight menus updated seasonally, developed in partnership with The Trotter Project and its critically recognized chefs, including Bill Kim of acclaimed Chicago restaurants Urbanbelly, bellyQ and Belly Shack.

The airline will offer an upgraded wine experience, with the highest-quality options curated exclusively by United's Master Sommelier. Inflight service will also include made-to-order signature ice cream sundaes, a dessert cart with a variety of petit dessert options, chocolate truffles and wine flights. On daytime flights longer than eight hours and on all flights longer than 12 hours, hot mid-flight snacks such as lobster macaroni and cheese will be available.

Raising The Bar With United Polaris Business Class Lounges

United will also open an exclusive portfolio of United Polaris business class lounges in nine locations around the world – the only lounge of its kind offered by a U.S. airline to business class customers – that will feature custom-designed chairs, private daybeds, spa-like showers and chef-inspired hot meals served in a boutique restaurant setting so customers can refresh and dine before boarding their planes. Premium sparkling wines and spirits, refreshing snacks and bottled water will also be offered.

The first new United Polaris lounge will open at Chicago O'Hare International Airport on Dec. 1, 2016. Lounges in eight other locations – Los Angeles, San Francisco, Houston, New York/Newark, Washington Dulles, Tokyo Narita, Hong Kong and London Heathrow – will follow in 2017.

United Polaris Introduction

United will begin to introduce United Polaris on Dec. 1, 2016, with the new inflight food and beverage experience, new custom bedding from Saks Fifth Avenue, new amenity kits and the new United Polaris lounge in Chicago. The United Polaris business class seat will first take flight in December on Boeing 777-300ER aircraft and subsequently on Boeing 787-10 and Airbus A350-1000 aircraft, as well as on Boeing 767-300 and 777-200 retrofits.

United Polaris will serve business class customers flying the U.S. airline industry's most global route network, reaching more than 330 destinations in more than 50 countries.

More information on the United Polaris business class can be found at united.com/Polaris.

[From [email][email protected] 11/15/2016]
Starting December 1, 2016, United Polaris Business Class service will replace United BusinessFirst service on international flights, and United Polaris Global First service will replace the current United Global First service.

Between 2017 to 2019 eight additional United Polaris lounges will open at EWR, HKG, IAD, IAH, LAX, LHR, NRT and SFO. We do not have the exact opening dates at this time. A scheduling announcement will be forthcoming.
** Flights with pajama service (for both directions)
SFO - ICN, PEK, PVG, HGH, XIV, TPE, AKL, HKG, CTU, SYD, TLV, SIN
EWR - NRT, PEK, DEL, BOM, HKG, PVG
ORD - NRT, PEK PVG, HKG
LAX - PVG, SYD, MEL, SIN
IAD - NRT, PEK
IAH - NRT, SYD
(from United Twitter feed https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyjFHZLW...jpg&name=large

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Old Jul 21, 2019, 4:13 am
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer

yep - the menu now just says ask the FA what the options are. They should just eliminate the menu insert at this point as it is a joke.
and on my DEN-FRA flight on Friday neither of the 2 FAs I asked could actually tell me what the selection was
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Old Jul 21, 2019, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by Plane-is-home
and on my DEN-FRA flight on Friday neither of the 2 FAs I asked could actually tell me what the selection was
"We got red and white!"

If I hear that again, I'm going to hurl. In the meantime, the FA in Economy on Austrian gives me 3 choices of red and can describe how they differ.
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Old Jul 21, 2019, 12:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Plane-is-home


and on my DEN-FRA flight on Friday neither of the 2 FAs I asked could actually tell me what the selection was
I didn’t ask on my SIN-SFO last week, but I have a hunch it would have been a similar result .

The sommelier - what’s the point?
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Old Jul 21, 2019, 12:46 pm
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer


I didn’t ask on my SIN-SFO last week, but I have a hunch it would have been a similar result .

The sommelier - what’s the point?
Agreed. Does anyone actually know a real person who works as a UA sommelier?
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Old Jul 21, 2019, 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by zitsky
Agreed. Does anyone actually know a real person who works as a UA sommelier?
I think Doug Frost is actually a sommelier, but he probably gets ‘pick bottles of wine you like for under $10’ from corporate and simply picks randomly, since once you’re at that price point it doesn’t really matter much (IMO).
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Old Jul 21, 2019, 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37
.... and simply picks randomly, since once you’re at that price point it doesn’t really matter much (IMO).
I would have thought it matters even MORE.
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Old Jul 21, 2019, 2:47 pm
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer

yep - the menu now just says ask the FA what the options are. They should just eliminate the menu insert at this point as it is a joke.
Well, it was gone on last Friday's UA 179, EWR-HKG. No insert. When I asked for a red, the FA told me they had a French, an Italian and a cab. I had the French, never saw the bottle, so no idea what it was. (It wasn't a Bordeaux, I think it may have been a burgundy, but don't put any money on it.) The cab was Wente because I was able to sneak a peek at it.

The FA's seemed really rushed to get the meal service done on this flight, but at 16 hours, I have no idea why. I also do not understand why UA does not instruct the FA's on how to present wine, especially in view of no wine lists. Or perhaps they do, but the FA's have decided on their own to eliminate this step in the interest of safety.
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Old Jul 22, 2019, 8:11 am
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I booked polaris for IAH - SYD for coming April and I am connecting through BDL-ORD on the way and the first 2 legs are in Y. Will I still be able to access the polaris lounge in ORD??

Also any way to check if the flight will ne equipped with new seats??
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Old Jul 22, 2019, 8:48 am
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Originally Posted by 1kBill
Well, it was gone on last Friday's UA 179, EWR-HKG. No insert. When I asked for a red, the FA told me they had a French, an Italian and a cab. I had the French, never saw the bottle, so no idea what it was. (It wasn't a Bordeaux, I think it may have been a burgundy, but don't put any money on it.)
Most likely it was this (which actually is a Bordeaux).

https://www.thewinebuyer.com/sku31543.html

About the cheapest (and worst) wine with the word Medoc on it.

Originally Posted by 1kBill
The FA's seemed really rushed to get the meal service done on this flight, but at 16 hours, I have no idea why. .
You're kidding right?
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Old Jul 22, 2019, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by Ksw299
I booked polaris for IAH - SYD for coming April and I am connecting through BDL-ORD on the way and the first 2 legs are in Y. Will I still be able to access the polaris lounge in ORD??

Also any way to check if the flight will ne equipped with new seats??
If your passage through ORD is within 24 hours of your departure from IAH, you will have access to the Polaris Lounge.

It's unlikely that the 789s will be refitted with Polaris by April, but in the event that you get lucky, you'll be able to tell from the seat maps that would be changed within 24 hours of your departure.
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Old Jul 22, 2019, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by 1kBill
Well, it was gone on last Friday's UA 179, EWR-HKG. No insert. When I asked for a red, the FA told me they had a French, an Italian and a cab. I had the French, never saw the bottle, so no idea what it was. (It wasn't a Bordeaux, I think it may have been a burgundy, but don't put any money on it.) The cab was Wente because I was able to sneak a peek at it.

The FA's seemed really rushed to get the meal service done on this flight, but at 16 hours, I have no idea why. I also do not understand why UA does not instruct the FA's on how to present wine, especially in view of no wine lists. Or perhaps they do, but the FA's have decided on their own to eliminate this step in the interest of safety.
Why can't they go back to the drink cart so the wine bottles are all there and you can see them, etc? CO did this with ease.
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Old Jul 22, 2019, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by elitefreak
Why can't they go back to the drink cart so the wine bottles are all there and you can see them, etc? CO did this with ease.
SFO-TPE and TPE-SFO last week (77W), the FA had the wines on a cart and was happy to show me the labels.
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Old Jul 22, 2019, 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by porciuscato
Most likely it was this (which actually is a Bordeaux).

https://www.thewinebuyer.com/sku31543.html

About the cheapest (and worst) wine with the word Medoc on it.
It wasn't that. I've had that (Chateau Greysac, on UA, of course) and it isn't worth the calories. The wine I had was medium bodied, which is why I am pretty sure it wasn't a Bordeaux.
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Old Jul 25, 2019, 11:22 am
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Originally Posted by wxguy
SFO-TPE and TPE-SFO last week (77W), the FA had the wines on a cart and was happy to show me the labels.
Nice!
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Old Jul 26, 2019, 9:58 pm
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Not to gloat, but for a fraction of the price I just completed a 4 leg LOT trip ORD-WAW-DUS and return. Service was impeccable to the point where the crew made sure that the tray cloths (remember those?) were oriented with the LOT log oriented in the lower right corner, logo up. Wines catered were what were on the menu. We had a nice multi page menu with full descriptions. Food was delicious and served at the proper temp. Salmon wasn’t a blob on the plate but nicely served with a wonderful creamy dill sauce and capers. Everything except the dessert cart was plated in the galley and not in dog bowls. A fruit side was neatly arranged slices. One thing on a short haul was slices of rare beef with a cranberry cheese sauce!! A pasta salad was fresh as could be and included things like slices of fresh crispy celery. Everything screamed “someone cares”. Several things were enhanced with caviar on top. Rolls were warmed. Butter was soft. Ice cream was perfect temp and delicious. Breakfast has a hot choice and not what Mrs, Milepig calls gruel. Wine presented with the label facing me. Every server who passed me (when I wasn’t sleeping) stopped to ask if they could bring me something. Wines served from the bottle with the label facing me. Everyone was gracious and smiling the entire trip. The lounge in WAW was fine although a bit crowded. Other places they use the LH senator lounge. Why would anyone spend four times as much for UA? The steep dive happened not that long ago and the bottom seems to have not been reached. Thanks, Kirby. Is anyone listening or do they just not care?
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