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Old Jun 2, 2016, 9:06 am
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As there are multi-threads on inflight service and meals, will re-focus this thread on the hard product, the seats (and things related to the seat -- pillows, pads, blankets, ...)

United website - Explore: http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris-business-class/p/1
from UA's Facebook stream
Only customers traveling in United Polaris business class or United Polaris Global First on international flights and customers in Star Alliance international first or business class cabins on flights longer than six hours will have access to the United Polaris Lounge.
Official Polaris Lounge Access Rules are here: Polaris Lounge Access Rules

United Polaris Business and Polaris First pax may access the Polaris lounge at connecting airports and their final destination within 24 hours of departure or arrival.

*A international J and F pax may only access the Polaris lounge at the departure airport. For purposes of Polaris lounge access, Canada, the Caribbean, Central America, and Guam are excluded from the definition of "international."

Seat Chart.

Press release: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300278706.html

NEW YORK, June 2, 2016 /PRNewswire/ -- With the aspiration of making weary business travel a relic of the past, United Airlines today unveiled its all-new United Polaris business class, the airline's most significant product transformation in more than a decade, featuring a reimagined, sleep-enhancing, departure-to-landing experience for intercontinental travelers.

Named after the North Star, United Polaris is the shining new star of business class travel that flyers can turn to for a tranquil and restful journey.

"United Polaris will change the game in international business travel with an exceptional level of relaxation and comfort throughout our customers' journeys," said Oscar Munoz, president and CEO of United. "This completely reconceived experience exemplifies the new spirit of United and the innovation, excitement and operational momentum across our airline."

Path-Breaking Design

In setting out to create a transformative business class experience, United chose to outfit its widebody fleet with a custom-designed, exclusive-to-United seat, rather than select an option already in the marketplace. Designed in partnership with Acumen Design Associates and PriestmanGoode and manufactured by Zodiac Seats United Kingdom, each United Polaris seat will offer direct access to the aisle, 180-degree flat-bed recline and up to 6 foot 6 inches of bed space.

Crafted as individual, forward-facing, suite-like pods, each customer's personal suite will feature a "Do Not Disturb" sign, mood lighting, one-touch lumbar support, several storage areas, multiple surfaces for simultaneous working and dining, a 16-inch high-definition entertainment screen and, for seats in the center of the cabin, electronic privacy dividers. Complementing the new seats, United and PriestmanGoode have also conceived an all-new look for the United Polaris cabins.

In rethinking the international business class experience, United conducted more than 12,000 hours of research, and sleep emerged as the single most important priority for international business class travelers. United Polaris' path-breaking design and sleep-enhancing focus was inspired and informed by insights from hundreds of customers and employees, inflight product simulations and more than 100 product evaluations.

Sleep-Enticing Amenities

In addition to the sleep-enticing United Polaris personal suites, several other amenities were designed with our customers' sleep in mind.

In a first-of-its-kind partnership, United has worked with leading luxury specialty store Saks Fifth Avenue for custom-designed bedding. All designed to provide the best sleep in the sky, the new bedding collection will feature plush duvets, lightweight day-blankets and a large and small pillow for each United Polaris customer. In addition, mattress cushions will be available upon request.

Slippers will be available on all flights, and customized United Polaris pajamas will be available by request on flights longer than 12 hours**. Flyers will also be able to request a gel-cooled pillow. New amenity kits will feature ergonomically designed eye shades, calming lavender pillow mist and additional products from Soho House & Co.'s Cowshed Spa.

With the introduction of United Polaris, the airline intends to donate tens of thousands of pillows, blankets and other inflight service items to Fisher House Foundation, which United and its employees have long supported.

Elevated Dining Experience

Upon boarding their flight, each United Polaris customer will be welcomed with a pre-departure beverage of his or her choice and gourmet chocolate. While in the air, customers will enjoy regionally influenced in-flight menus updated seasonally, developed in partnership with The Trotter Project and its critically recognized chefs, including Bill Kim of acclaimed Chicago restaurants Urbanbelly, bellyQ and Belly Shack.

The airline will offer an upgraded wine experience, with the highest-quality options curated exclusively by United's Master Sommelier. Inflight service will also include made-to-order signature ice cream sundaes, a dessert cart with a variety of petit dessert options, chocolate truffles and wine flights. On daytime flights longer than eight hours and on all flights longer than 12 hours, hot mid-flight snacks such as lobster macaroni and cheese will be available.

Raising The Bar With United Polaris Business Class Lounges

United will also open an exclusive portfolio of United Polaris business class lounges in nine locations around the world – the only lounge of its kind offered by a U.S. airline to business class customers – that will feature custom-designed chairs, private daybeds, spa-like showers and chef-inspired hot meals served in a boutique restaurant setting so customers can refresh and dine before boarding their planes. Premium sparkling wines and spirits, refreshing snacks and bottled water will also be offered.

The first new United Polaris lounge will open at Chicago O'Hare International Airport on Dec. 1, 2016. Lounges in eight other locations – Los Angeles, San Francisco, Houston, New York/Newark, Washington Dulles, Tokyo Narita, Hong Kong and London Heathrow – will follow in 2017.

United Polaris Introduction

United will begin to introduce United Polaris on Dec. 1, 2016, with the new inflight food and beverage experience, new custom bedding from Saks Fifth Avenue, new amenity kits and the new United Polaris lounge in Chicago. The United Polaris business class seat will first take flight in December on Boeing 777-300ER aircraft and subsequently on Boeing 787-10 and Airbus A350-1000 aircraft, as well as on Boeing 767-300 and 777-200 retrofits.

United Polaris will serve business class customers flying the U.S. airline industry's most global route network, reaching more than 330 destinations in more than 50 countries.

More information on the United Polaris business class can be found at united.com/Polaris.

[From [email][email protected] 11/15/2016]
Starting December 1, 2016, United Polaris Business Class service will replace United BusinessFirst service on international flights, and United Polaris Global First service will replace the current United Global First service.

Between 2017 to 2019 eight additional United Polaris lounges will open at EWR, HKG, IAD, IAH, LAX, LHR, NRT and SFO. We do not have the exact opening dates at this time. A scheduling announcement will be forthcoming.
** Flights with pajama service (for both directions)
SFO - ICN, PEK, PVG, HGH, XIV, TPE, AKL, HKG, CTU, SYD, TLV, SIN
EWR - NRT, PEK, DEL, BOM, HKG, PVG
ORD - NRT, PEK PVG, HKG
LAX - PVG, SYD, MEL, SIN
IAD - NRT, PEK
IAH - NRT, SYD
(from United Twitter feed https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyjFHZLW...jpg&name=large

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Old Jan 17, 2020, 10:40 am
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Originally Posted by seanp7
That's precisely the point of the Polaris Lounge, which is decent. Did you eat there? Problem solved.
I'm not sure UA would agree the Polaris lounge is intended to make up for crappy on-board catering.

And at SFO, there's typically a 30+ minute wait for a table during busy periods. Hardly a solution for those who don't have hours to kill before their flight.
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Originally Posted by Kacee
I'm not sure UA would agree the Polaris lounge is intended to make up for crappy on-board catering.

And at SFO, there's typically a 30+ minute wait for a table during busy periods. Hardly a solution for those who don't have hours to kill before their flight.
Agreed; I wasn't talking from UA's perspective. But the Polaris Lounge + onboard poor catering has led to this behavior on my side. That's what I was speaking to.
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Old Jan 17, 2020, 11:06 am
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Originally Posted by mr8
Well at least SFO and IAH have a Polaris lounge. The poor suckers flying out of DEN only have a dated club, zero Polaris seats, and never get any PJs!
Yup, and it sounds like Denver won't be getting a Polaris lounge any time soon. (https://thepointsguy.com/news/iad-po...-construction/)

To be fair, we only have three long-haul international flights (NRT, LHR, FRA) and the two LH flights (FRA, MUC), compared to the dozens of long-haul flights from ORD, SFO, IAH and IAD.
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Old Jan 17, 2020, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by Lori_Q
Yup, and it sounds like Denver won't be getting a Polaris lounge any time soon. (https://thepointsguy.com/news/iad-po...-construction/)

To be fair, we only have three long-haul international flights (NRT, LHR, FRA) and the two LH flights (FRA, MUC), compared to the dozens of long-haul flights from ORD, SFO, IAH and IAD.
but in Denver we have as well the worst clubs of any hub. Haven’t seen eggs nor breakfast or real food for lunch and dinner in years. Now we are even down to only one soup selection and one type of cheese.
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Old Jan 17, 2020, 12:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Plane-is-home
but in Denver we have as well the worst clubs of any hub. Haven’t seen eggs nor breakfast or real food for lunch and dinner in years. Now we are even down to only one soup selection and one type of cheese.
The joys of hub captivity, and mostly domestic one at that.
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Old Jan 17, 2020, 12:46 pm
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I think the general consensus in here is that the Polaris Lounge and the new seats are quite good but the on-board catering has fallen a bit flat, especially in light of what was originally unveiled.

IME, the lounge is better than any lounge I have seen from AA,DL,AF,KL, LX or LH. Is Polaris better than the best that the ME3 have to offer? Absolutely not. It is not priced or advertised in the same league either.
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Old Jan 17, 2020, 2:50 pm
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Originally Posted by usbusinesstraveller
I dunno about you but all amenity kits are throwaway for me. I'll maybe use the socks and the toothbrush. Who collects amenity kits?
I do! The kits are great to stock in a guest bathroom for when your guests forget toothpaste. Or socks. Or if they need a very tiny pen.
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Old Jan 17, 2020, 2:51 pm
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I will tell you what does suck, the mattress pad. It needs to be about three times as thick and much firmer.
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Old Jan 17, 2020, 3:47 pm
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Originally Posted by seanp7
Agreed; I wasn't talking from UA's perspective. But the Polaris Lounge + onboard poor catering has led to this behavior on my side. That's what I was speaking to.
At IAD, sit down dining at the BA and AF lounges is only for the late night departures. Which I’m fine with because their on-board dining is good.
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So is it QR or SQ that’s going to get you from IAH to AMS nonstop?

or you could take KLM which if you’re flying half their fleet is the same hard product as the old Continental. Jeez. Calm yourself down.
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Old Jan 17, 2020, 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
I'm not sure UA would agree the Polaris lounge is intended to make up for crappy on-board catering.

And at SFO, there's typically a 30+ minute wait for a table during busy periods. Hardly a solution for those who don't have hours to kill before their flight.
Recent EVE-IAH Polaris flight food was horrible, basically inedible. Landed in IAH and went to the lounge but didn't have time to go through the whole sit down thing. Buffet there was also less than great as well. Left the PL and went to restaurant near gate and grabbed something prior to next flight. This isn't the first time this has happened. While the lounge situation is better, I agree it is not meant to "make up for crappy on-board catering".
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Old Jan 17, 2020, 4:51 pm
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The new seats are no panacea, with high walls giving the claustrophobic feeling, smaller shelf below the TV, no cubby for briefcases, and the new tray table making it more difficult to keep a laptop open during meal service.

There are privacy upsides I suppose, but on balance I don't see a clear winner between the new and old seats, and thus reason to care so much about which product you get. It's the same soft product delivered by the same staff either way.

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Old Jan 17, 2020, 5:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Z Man
I have been doing a fair number of trips to Asia and Europe the last few years.
If you’re flying in J on a ‘fair number’ of trips to Asia why on earth would you even bother with UA. Take SQ to SIN. Yeah you have to stop from SFO, but imo it’s well worth it. For Europe options are less ideal but you still have LH or SQ to FRA via JFK (idk where you’re going in Europe).
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Old Jan 17, 2020, 6:01 pm
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Originally Posted by cmd320
If you’re flying in J on a ‘fair number’ of trips to Asia why on earth would you even bother with UA. Take SQ to SIN. Yeah you have to stop from SFO, but imo it’s well worth it. For Europe options are less ideal but you still have LH or SQ to FRA via JFK (idk where you’re going in Europe).
For TPAC *A, BR gives pretty good soft and hard product for less flight time. They route via TPE so you don't have to go all the way to SIN
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Old Jan 17, 2020, 6:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Violin1990
For TPAC *A, BR gives pretty good soft and hard product for less flight time. They route via TPE so you don't have to go all the way to SIN
No doubt, I’ve heard great things about BR but haven’t personally experienced them. OP originally stated one of their routes was SIN. Also, SQ flights from SFO go to HKG then on to SIN.
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