EWR Security line/PreCheck/Premier Access locations/wait times/issues [CONSOLIDATED]
Mar 11, 2016, 4:11 pm
#226
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Yes no additional 'flights' in total, but the cuts may have been to regional jet operations, which can have a double effect - more pax, and more in Terminal C vs A.
So from a total Terminal C perspective it's more than the difference between a 738 and a 757.
Also consider about half those PS frequencies are the dense 16J sCO 757s.
Will be interesting when the April/May ramp up to more frequent PS service hits again. End of this month could shape up to be a disaster with Spring Break.
So from a total Terminal C perspective it's more than the difference between a 738 and a 757.
Also consider about half those PS frequencies are the dense 16J sCO 757s.
Will be interesting when the April/May ramp up to more frequent PS service hits again. End of this month could shape up to be a disaster with Spring Break.
Mar 11, 2016, 4:22 pm
#227
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Yes no additional 'flights' in total, but the cuts may have been to regional jet operations, which can have a double effect - more pax, and more in Terminal C vs A.
So from a total Terminal C perspective it's more than the difference between a 738 and a 757.
Also consider about half those PS frequencies are the dense 16J sCO 757s.
Will be interesting when the April/May ramp up to more frequent PS service hits again. End of this month could shape up to be a disaster with Spring Break.
So from a total Terminal C perspective it's more than the difference between a 738 and a 757.
Also consider about half those PS frequencies are the dense 16J sCO 757s.
Will be interesting when the April/May ramp up to more frequent PS service hits again. End of this month could shape up to be a disaster with Spring Break.
Looking at Innovata data it appears in March 2015 there were 265,104 UA (and UA Express) seats a week scheduled to depart EWR C, and in March 2016 there are 276,464, for an increase of 4%. At EWR A it's dropped from 38,900 to 35,850. So C is getting busier, but far from 40% busier (even if load factors are increasing).
Mar 11, 2016, 6:46 pm
#228
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At the risk of going off topic, today SFO was operating one body scanner in the int'l terminal in the middle of the afternoon. Lines were backing up very quickly. It looked like there were a lot of staff around, so I'm not sure if they failed to anticipate the load or had some other MO.
Mar 11, 2016, 6:49 pm
#229
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At the risk of going off topic, today SFO was operating one body scanner in the int'l terminal in the middle of the afternoon. Lines were backing up very quickly. It looked like there were a lot of staff around, so I'm not sure if they failed to anticipate the load or had some other MO.
If the private contractors at SFO have started to step up the rigor of their screening due to concerns about being too lax, as the TSA supposedly has, they might slow down too, though.
Mar 11, 2016, 9:38 pm
#230
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Even the 16J 757s have fewer seats than a 739, and only 15 more seats than a 738.
Looking at Innovata data it appears in March 2015 there were 265,104 UA (and UA Express) seats a week scheduled to depart EWR C, and in March 2016 there are 276,464, for an increase of 4%. At EWR A it's dropped from 38,900 to 35,850. So C is getting busier, but far from 40% busier (even if load factors are increasing).
Looking at Innovata data it appears in March 2015 there were 265,104 UA (and UA Express) seats a week scheduled to depart EWR C, and in March 2016 there are 276,464, for an increase of 4%. At EWR A it's dropped from 38,900 to 35,850. So C is getting busier, but far from 40% busier (even if load factors are increasing).
Mar 11, 2016, 9:42 pm
#231
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Even the 16J 757s have fewer seats than a 739, and only 15 more seats than a 738.
Looking at Innovata data it appears in March 2015 there were 265,104 UA (and UA Express) seats a week scheduled to depart EWR C, and in March 2016 there are 276,464, for an increase of 4%. At EWR A it's dropped from 38,900 to 35,850. So C is getting busier, but far from 40% busier (even if load factors are increasing).
Looking at Innovata data it appears in March 2015 there were 265,104 UA (and UA Express) seats a week scheduled to depart EWR C, and in March 2016 there are 276,464, for an increase of 4%. At EWR A it's dropped from 38,900 to 35,850. So C is getting busier, but far from 40% busier (even if load factors are increasing).
Mar 11, 2016, 9:42 pm
#232
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cerealmarketer
MSP and ATL have been bad.
Interesting comment from a TSA officer in that article
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Jewell B Gonzalez
Not once, have they mentioned the one and simple fact. We dont have proper staffing, why?
Because a few months ago United moved all of there flights from JFK and made EWR their primary hub, increasing our flight load by 40%. Most of those flights all push around the exact same time
...
I get what they are saying overall, but I would hard pressed to believe the JFK switch added 40% load to EWR screening.
Originally Posted by cerealmarketer
MSP and ATL have been bad.
Interesting comment from a TSA officer in that article
"
Jewell B Gonzalez
Not once, have they mentioned the one and simple fact. We dont have proper staffing, why?
Because a few months ago United moved all of there flights from JFK and made EWR their primary hub, increasing our flight load by 40%. Most of those flights all push around the exact same time
...
I get what they are saying overall, but I would hard pressed to believe the JFK switch added 40% load to EWR screening.
As usual tsa pointing fingers in all direction for their own incompetence.
Mar 12, 2016, 11:02 am
#233
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Anyone notice changes last few days? Are the changes- noted above in the utilization of C3 primarily for pre, and C2 and C1 split between premier and regulars- sticking? If so, any change in wait time? Have 6 C trips over next 3 weeks, and dreading...
Mar 12, 2016, 11:17 am
#234
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When I flew out on Tuesday, Precheck was still thru C-1 but used 2 magnetometers and xray's.
When I got back last night, it looks like something moved to C-2 (not just wheelchairs) and there's construction at C-1. The exit via C-1 is closed and in fact is now drywall.
Can't wait to see this all done - should be a huge improvement.
Mar 13, 2016, 9:43 am
#235
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check in the night before to save time?
So in trying to figure out a strategy for my flying partner being able to make our 7 PM EWR-ZRH flight on Friday considering the long security wait times of recent weeks, I was wondering how early can he check in and get his boarding passes at the airport.
It is doubtful he will be able to check in online since we have a connecting flight on LX to IST. Normally, you can check in online 24 hours before a flight departs, does the same hold true for airport check in?
Could he go to EWR after 7 PM on Thursday evening and get his boarding passes for the next day flight and then just use the A terminal security on Friday?
It is doubtful he will be able to check in online since we have a connecting flight on LX to IST. Normally, you can check in online 24 hours before a flight departs, does the same hold true for airport check in?
Could he go to EWR after 7 PM on Thursday evening and get his boarding passes for the next day flight and then just use the A terminal security on Friday?
Mar 13, 2016, 9:46 am
#236
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Why can't he just check in online and print the BP at home or just go to a kiosk the day of the flight and print them?
I flew EWR-ZRH-IST just fine.
I flew EWR-ZRH-IST just fine.
Mar 13, 2016, 9:51 am
#237
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Of course he will try to check in online and hopefully that will work. My question was if it doesn't can he go to the airport the night before (he lives pretty close by).
Mar 13, 2016, 10:00 am
#239
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What do folks think of a Tuesday 12:45 PM departure? Flying EWR-NRT soon, and while my wife, myself, and my mom all have PreCheck, my wife's parents do not, so we will probably take have to take the regular Premier Access lane (as we are all flying in J). Will ~10:30 AM be good enough?
Mar 13, 2016, 11:07 am
#240
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What do folks think of a Tuesday 12:45 PM departure? Flying EWR-NRT soon, and while my wife, myself, and my mom all have PreCheck, my wife's parents do not, so we will probably take have to take the regular Premier Access lane (as we are all flying in J). Will ~10:30 AM be good enough?