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Old Feb 5, 2015, 5:25 am
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THIS IS A THREAD FOR WHICH ALL MP MEMBERS WILL BE ABLE TO RESPOND ...THANKS.
The goal of the survey is to benefit all of us.
This thread is to ask ALL MileagePlus members who read the MileagePlus Forum to please respond to this
short 3 question survey. It will only take a few minutes..

PLEASE PM YOUR MP FTer FRIENDS TO ASK THEM TO ALSO POST IN THIS SURVEY....THANKS.
The 3 questions are in Post #1


WIKI UPDATED FEBRUARY 24 (already over 275 posts)

PLEASE READ THIS WIKI AND POST #1 BEFORE RESPONDING TO THIS SURVEY. THANKS.

WE NEED YOUR INPUT....PLEASE TAKE PART.


IF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE WHO HAS ALREADY RESPONDED, KINDLY CHECK YOUR POST TO MAKE SURE YOUR REASONS FOR MAINTAINING OR CHANGING YOUR STATUS LEVEL ARE CLEAR IN QUESTION #2. KINDLY EDIT, IF NEEDED. THIS IS TO HELP IN GATHERING OF DATA FOR THE SURVEY, TO BENEFIT US ALL. THANK YOU.

The data will be compiled and posted in this WIKI after approximately each 100 respondants during the year to keep it simple for someone (me) who has trouble figuring out where Boarding Line 1 is

DATA WILL BE UPDATED AT THE BOTTOM OF THE WIKI


UA monitors these threads. They will not release their statistics on MP membership changes, so let us work together to compile our own data.

PURPOSE OF SURVEY


The aim is to get a very large number of data points in the coming weeks/months to see percentages of those who dropped, maintained, or increased in status through their 2014 earnings activity for 2015 status in MP because of many reasons.

The survey asks persons to state their individual reasons for their 2014-15 activity for attaining a certain status level for 2015. The survey will determine in a objective, structured, measurable and efficient way, what were persons' experiences in flying on UA in 2014 in light of various changes in the MileagePlus program or other UA flying experiences that have affected the amount of flying they did on UA in 2014. This MAY have affected their Premier status. Kindly PM your UA FTer friends to ask them to post in this survey. Thanks.

The Feb. 1 changeover date is to include those persons who responded to a "Buy Up" offer in January to maintain their 2014 status.)

IF YOU RESPONDED TO A BUY UP OFFER AFTER FEB.1, PLEASE INDICATE THAT IN YOUR RESPONSE (UA's BUY UP OFFERS EXTENDED UNTIL 2/28.

. (Some persons have other reasons for changing their 2014 flying on UA other than complaints about UA or MileagePlus.... such as the amount of business travel changing).

It will take just a few minutes for you to respond. Data will be updated in this WIKI after every 100 responses. Please read Post #1 before responding to this survey. Thank you.

(There is a separate thread for 2015 in which a brief, 3 question survey is being taken in regards to persons' plans for 2015 for earning 2016 Premier status (and reducing, maintaining, or increasing the amount of your UA flying) in light of the new PQD requirements for 2016 and new policies regarding earning Reward Mileage, or your other unique reasons. Kindly expound on your 2015 plans for 2016 status in that thread. Thanks.)
HERE IS THE LINK TO THAT THREAD:
[2015] Version: What plans do you have in 2015 for earning 2016 Premier status?

DATA


I am working on the data for this thread and will post more information later. So far, I have counted 200 respondants through Post #204 (including those who reported for 2 persons). 46% have dropped in status from 2014 to 2015. 40 % have stayed the same. 14 % increased status.

The most noticable trend so far among FTers who have reported to this thread is that of the (92/200) 46% who reported dropping in status,
(53/92) 58% were 1K in 2014. Of that 58%, 50% dropped to Gold or Below.

Here is the 2015 status breakdown of the 200 persons so far reporting included in the survey statistics : GS 3%, 1K 35%, Platinum 19.5%, Gold 18%, Silver 12%, GM 12.5%.

No GS dropped below 1K. 6 GS dropped, replaced by 3 new ones.

16 Platinums dropped, replaced by 9 new ones. So there was a slight decrease in Platinums...combined with the number of 1Ks who dropped below Platinum, shows a trend of a smaller group that MIGHT eventually show up in the sizes of Boarding Group 1...(if the data from this survey would be interpreted to somehow signal a drop of MP members across the system...We can only speculate on this, as FT is a small percentage of the entire MP population, and not everyone on FT will respond to this thread. OF COURSE THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS THAT AFFECT THE SIZE OF BOARDING GROUP 1 AT TIMES... SUCH AS IRRROPS, SDCs, DEPARTURE CITY, ELITE HEAVY ROUTES, DESTINATION CITY, DAY OF WEEK, TIME OF DAY, etc.)

But it is interesting to see such a drop of 1Ks to be below Platinum who have reported so far in this thread.
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REPEAT: There is a separate thread for 2015 in which a brief, 3 question survey is being taken in regards to persons' plans for 2015 for earning 2016 Premier status in light of the new PQD requirements for 2016 and new policies regarding earning Reward Mileage, or your other unique reasons. Kindly expound on your 2015 plans for 2016 status in that thread. Thanks.)
HERE IS THE LINK TO THAT THREAD:
[2015] Version: What plans do you have in 2015 for earning 2016 Premier status?


Many posters are providing excellent reasons why their status dropped, stayed the same, or increased from 2014 to 2015.

However, many posters are not providing any reasons.

IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO US ALL if future posters would expound in more detail for their reasons for their status as of the changeover date on Feb. 1, 2015...see examples in Post #1.

Please read Post #1 before posting in this thread. Thank you.

For those who have already posted their status, it will be very helpful to us all for you to go back to edit your posts to expound more clearly to give us all some better insights for your reasons for your status. In particular, for the 46% who dropped status from 2014 to 2015.... It would be very helpful to us all for you to expound on your reasons. This may help to see if any trends are being established (at least among those MP members who choose to post in this Forum... a small sample of all MP members). No significant trends for reasons have yet emerged in the early life of this survey.


It is possible that number is somewhat indicative of all MP members across the UA system, but it is unknown. UA certainly will not share their statistics with us. How representative are those who post in this FT Forum of the entire MP membership?....unknown...we can only speculate.

The more persons who take time to report in this thread, the greater number of data points we will have.

[IS UA's STRATEGY TO THIN THE RANKS OF PREMIERS AND HOPE MORE PERSONS WILL "BUY-UP" their upgrades rather than using CPUs, RPUs, and GPUs ? Or is UA thinking that more persons will now buy higher fares? Hard to know...there has been a lot of speculation in the past in the MileagePlus Forum about these possibilities.]


If these numbers are somewhat indicative of MP members across the UA system, then we ought to begin seeing some indications of this in the size of Boarding Group 1 in the coming weeks and months. If Boarding Group 1 seems to be shrinking, this may indicate a larger drop in 1Ks to Gold or below, and a drop from the ranks of Platinums. (OF COURSE SOME CITIES ARE VERY HEAVY 1Ks and Plats...but be observing...see if you notice any overall shrinking of sizes of Boarding Group 1,)

Most posters so far have been Premier members.

Some posters are providing excellent reasons why their status dropped, stayed the same, or increased.

However, many posters are not providing any reasons.

AGAIN...IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO US ALL if future posters would expound in more detail for the reasons for their status...see examples in Post #1. This will help to identify if any trends for reasons are emerging.


Thanks. I will update WIKI at some appropriate point when more data becomes available in the future.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 5:23 pm
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Requalified as a 1k in 2014 for the 2015 year.

A lot of shorter trips (NE regional) resulted in slightly lower miles from 2013 but still more than enough for 1k.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 5:47 pm
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Have been in and out of 1K for years, and have been a MM for a number of years too.

This year 1K > (Lifetime) Gold

Would have got Plat but 1250-mile flight on LH was disallowed because it was operated by Air Malta
Would have been exempt from PQD because spent more than $35 on a Chase United card last year.

Have 50K flying with UA booked between now and the end of March, but not a lot thereafter or not yet. Have been looking at changing to AA for sometime. Only reason I didn't this time was because SO needs guaranteed upgrades for her legs (veins kaput), but she is not going to fly much in future so may look at it again, or stick with it until I make 2MM (but with the changes to the program I estimate that my miles earning rate will decrease by 60% after March 1 unless I start buying more expensive tickets).
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 2:14 pm
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5 day brief update on statistics of this thread.

I am working on the statistics for this thread and will post more information later. So far, I have counted 200 respondants through Post #204 (including those who reported for 2 persons). 46% have dropped in status from 2014 to 2015. 40 % have stayed the same. 14 % increased status.

The most noticable trend so far among FTers who have reported to this thread is that of the 46% who reported dropping in status, 58% were 1K in 2014. Of that 58%, 50% dropped to Gold or Below.

Of course, FTers represent a very small percentage of all MP members, so it is just speculation to predict how well these figures represent the general population of MP members. It would help if more FTers would report to this thread. Those who have already posted, please go back and edit your posts to give more reasons to help us all understand your status changes. Thanks. And please also answer the survey in the other thread about your 2015 plans for earning 2016 status. Thanks.

I will edit the WIKI later with more statistics, but I have a lot of other things to do today. Thanks.

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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 2:15 pm
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1K again

Made 1K but with the bump in spend, I reached out to AA for status match and there are some affordable biz fares I will be migrating to AA. Now I have to figure out what to do with 800,0000 miles.
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by mkr
I am working on the statistics for this thread and will post more information later. So far, I have counted 200 respondants t

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so it is just speculation to predict how well these figures represent the general population of MP members. It would help if more FTers would report to this thread.
200 reports starts to get my attention.

Thanks for putting this together.
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 4:52 pm
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More statistics update at 5 1/2 days from beginning of thread.

Here is the status breakdown of the 200 persons so far reporting included in the survey statistics (see post #213 above) : GS 3%, 1K 35%, Platinum 19.5%, Gold 18%, Silver 12%, GM 12.5%.

No GS dropped below 1K. 6 GS dropped, replaced by 3 new ones.

16 Platinums dropped, replaced by 9 new ones. So there was a slight decrease in Platinums...combined with the number of 1Ks who dropped below Platinum, shows a trend of a smaller group that would be in Boarding Group 1...(if these statistics from this survey would be interpreted to somehow signal a drop of MP members across the system...We can only speculate on this, as FT is such a small percentage of the entire MP population, and not everyone on FT will respond to this thread.

But it is interesting to see such a drop of 1Ks to be below Platinum who have reported in this thread.

We need a great many more FTers to post in this thread to increase the data. Tell your FTer friends to post!
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 5:25 pm
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Remained a 1K. That is 4 years in a row. Should retain 1K for 2016 with my typical 5-6 TPAC's.
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 6:19 pm
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1990's - 2013 1K
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2015 - 1K
2016 - ? may drop to Platinum (2MM bottom) Have 3 million award miles and time to start using them.
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 6:40 pm
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kept my 1K staus for 2015
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 9:37 pm
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2014 1K (MM)
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 9:56 pm
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No status on UA now. Silver last year. Have had continual status (bumping between Gold and Silver) for 15+ years, mostly leisure travel. Trying Delta now...
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 10:48 pm
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1K retained

Retained 1K in 2015.
Overseas based so no spend requirement (yet).
Status achieved through usual mix of TPAC and TPAC+TATL (SYD-SFO-FRA).
Will be much the same pattern for 2015 with 21,000 miles on the clock so far.
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 10:54 pm
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As point of explanation on why no GS has dropped below 1K, I believe United automatically offers a soft landing for GS customers. So any GS that does not requalify for GS will be 1K during the next program year regardless of mileage flown or dollars spent.
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 1:46 am
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I've been Gold for the past 8 years or so. I am Platinum for this year.
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 4:37 am
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Dropped from plat to silver

work travel cut dramatically, but splitting what's left between UA and DL.
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