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[Survey]: From 2014-15 Did your MP Status Increase, Decrease, or remain the same?

[Survey]: From 2014-15 Did your MP Status Increase, Decrease, or remain the same?

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THIS IS A THREAD FOR WHICH ALL MP MEMBERS WILL BE ABLE TO RESPOND ...THANKS.
The goal of the survey is to benefit all of us.
This thread is to ask ALL MileagePlus members who read the MileagePlus Forum to please respond to this
short 3 question survey. It will only take a few minutes..

PLEASE PM YOUR MP FTer FRIENDS TO ASK THEM TO ALSO POST IN THIS SURVEY....THANKS.
The 3 questions are in Post #1


WIKI UPDATED FEBRUARY 24 (already over 275 posts)

PLEASE READ THIS WIKI AND POST #1 BEFORE RESPONDING TO THIS SURVEY. THANKS.

WE NEED YOUR INPUT....PLEASE TAKE PART.


IF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE WHO HAS ALREADY RESPONDED, KINDLY CHECK YOUR POST TO MAKE SURE YOUR REASONS FOR MAINTAINING OR CHANGING YOUR STATUS LEVEL ARE CLEAR IN QUESTION #2. KINDLY EDIT, IF NEEDED. THIS IS TO HELP IN GATHERING OF DATA FOR THE SURVEY, TO BENEFIT US ALL. THANK YOU.

The data will be compiled and posted in this WIKI after approximately each 100 respondants during the year to keep it simple for someone (me) who has trouble figuring out where Boarding Line 1 is

DATA WILL BE UPDATED AT THE BOTTOM OF THE WIKI


UA monitors these threads. They will not release their statistics on MP membership changes, so let us work together to compile our own data.

PURPOSE OF SURVEY


The aim is to get a very large number of data points in the coming weeks/months to see percentages of those who dropped, maintained, or increased in status through their 2014 earnings activity for 2015 status in MP because of many reasons.

The survey asks persons to state their individual reasons for their 2014-15 activity for attaining a certain status level for 2015. The survey will determine in a objective, structured, measurable and efficient way, what were persons' experiences in flying on UA in 2014 in light of various changes in the MileagePlus program or other UA flying experiences that have affected the amount of flying they did on UA in 2014. This MAY have affected their Premier status. Kindly PM your UA FTer friends to ask them to post in this survey. Thanks.

The Feb. 1 changeover date is to include those persons who responded to a "Buy Up" offer in January to maintain their 2014 status.)

IF YOU RESPONDED TO A BUY UP OFFER AFTER FEB.1, PLEASE INDICATE THAT IN YOUR RESPONSE (UA's BUY UP OFFERS EXTENDED UNTIL 2/28.

. (Some persons have other reasons for changing their 2014 flying on UA other than complaints about UA or MileagePlus.... such as the amount of business travel changing).

It will take just a few minutes for you to respond. Data will be updated in this WIKI after every 100 responses. Please read Post #1 before responding to this survey. Thank you.

(There is a separate thread for 2015 in which a brief, 3 question survey is being taken in regards to persons' plans for 2015 for earning 2016 Premier status (and reducing, maintaining, or increasing the amount of your UA flying) in light of the new PQD requirements for 2016 and new policies regarding earning Reward Mileage, or your other unique reasons. Kindly expound on your 2015 plans for 2016 status in that thread. Thanks.)
HERE IS THE LINK TO THAT THREAD:
[2015] Version: What plans do you have in 2015 for earning 2016 Premier status?

DATA


I am working on the data for this thread and will post more information later. So far, I have counted 200 respondants through Post #204 (including those who reported for 2 persons). 46% have dropped in status from 2014 to 2015. 40 % have stayed the same. 14 % increased status.

The most noticable trend so far among FTers who have reported to this thread is that of the (92/200) 46% who reported dropping in status,
(53/92) 58% were 1K in 2014. Of that 58%, 50% dropped to Gold or Below.

Here is the 2015 status breakdown of the 200 persons so far reporting included in the survey statistics : GS 3%, 1K 35%, Platinum 19.5%, Gold 18%, Silver 12%, GM 12.5%.

No GS dropped below 1K. 6 GS dropped, replaced by 3 new ones.

16 Platinums dropped, replaced by 9 new ones. So there was a slight decrease in Platinums...combined with the number of 1Ks who dropped below Platinum, shows a trend of a smaller group that MIGHT eventually show up in the sizes of Boarding Group 1...(if the data from this survey would be interpreted to somehow signal a drop of MP members across the system...We can only speculate on this, as FT is a small percentage of the entire MP population, and not everyone on FT will respond to this thread. OF COURSE THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS THAT AFFECT THE SIZE OF BOARDING GROUP 1 AT TIMES... SUCH AS IRRROPS, SDCs, DEPARTURE CITY, ELITE HEAVY ROUTES, DESTINATION CITY, DAY OF WEEK, TIME OF DAY, etc.)

But it is interesting to see such a drop of 1Ks to be below Platinum who have reported so far in this thread.
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REPEAT: There is a separate thread for 2015 in which a brief, 3 question survey is being taken in regards to persons' plans for 2015 for earning 2016 Premier status in light of the new PQD requirements for 2016 and new policies regarding earning Reward Mileage, or your other unique reasons. Kindly expound on your 2015 plans for 2016 status in that thread. Thanks.)
HERE IS THE LINK TO THAT THREAD:
[2015] Version: What plans do you have in 2015 for earning 2016 Premier status?


Many posters are providing excellent reasons why their status dropped, stayed the same, or increased from 2014 to 2015.

However, many posters are not providing any reasons.

IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO US ALL if future posters would expound in more detail for their reasons for their status as of the changeover date on Feb. 1, 2015...see examples in Post #1.

Please read Post #1 before posting in this thread. Thank you.

For those who have already posted their status, it will be very helpful to us all for you to go back to edit your posts to expound more clearly to give us all some better insights for your reasons for your status. In particular, for the 46% who dropped status from 2014 to 2015.... It would be very helpful to us all for you to expound on your reasons. This may help to see if any trends are being established (at least among those MP members who choose to post in this Forum... a small sample of all MP members). No significant trends for reasons have yet emerged in the early life of this survey.


It is possible that number is somewhat indicative of all MP members across the UA system, but it is unknown. UA certainly will not share their statistics with us. How representative are those who post in this FT Forum of the entire MP membership?....unknown...we can only speculate.

The more persons who take time to report in this thread, the greater number of data points we will have.

[IS UA's STRATEGY TO THIN THE RANKS OF PREMIERS AND HOPE MORE PERSONS WILL "BUY-UP" their upgrades rather than using CPUs, RPUs, and GPUs ? Or is UA thinking that more persons will now buy higher fares? Hard to know...there has been a lot of speculation in the past in the MileagePlus Forum about these possibilities.]


If these numbers are somewhat indicative of MP members across the UA system, then we ought to begin seeing some indications of this in the size of Boarding Group 1 in the coming weeks and months. If Boarding Group 1 seems to be shrinking, this may indicate a larger drop in 1Ks to Gold or below, and a drop from the ranks of Platinums. (OF COURSE SOME CITIES ARE VERY HEAVY 1Ks and Plats...but be observing...see if you notice any overall shrinking of sizes of Boarding Group 1,)

Most posters so far have been Premier members.

Some posters are providing excellent reasons why their status dropped, stayed the same, or increased.

However, many posters are not providing any reasons.

AGAIN...IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO US ALL if future posters would expound in more detail for the reasons for their status...see examples in Post #1. This will help to identify if any trends for reasons are emerging.


Thanks. I will update WIKI at some appropriate point when more data becomes available in the future.
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Old Feb 2, 15, 6:53 am
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[Survey]: From 2014-15 Did your MP Status Increase, Decrease, or remain the same?

MODERATOR NOTE

This thread is now a consolidation of three threads regarding if your MP status increased, decreased or remained the same post - Feb 1, 2015.

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PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE POST #1 BEFORE RESPONDING TO THIS SURVEY THANKS.

We need YOUR input, please reply to this survey. We need to get a very large number of FTers who read this MileagePlus forum to respond in order to get a better idea of the trends that may have been established for 2014-2015.

UA monitors these threads on Flyertalk. They will not release their statistics on MP membership changes, so let us work together to compile our own data.


There has been much speculation in this Forum that the MP Premier herds will be thinned (speculation varies in regards to what degree) because of the inability by many to qualify for the 2014 PQD requirement for 2015 MP Premier status. Also, many posters have reported voluntarily dropping MP Premier status to fly other specific carriers more for several reasons.

This thread is set up to get some insights into reasons FTers had their status to change or remain the same from 2014 to 2015 at the time of the Feb. 1 changeover in the computer system. (Feb. 1 is included to include those persons who took advantage of the January "Buy Up" offers to retain their Premier status.) THIS THREAD IS NOT TO REPORT STATUS CHANGES DURING 2015 AFTER FEB. 2. THERE IS ANOTHER THREAD FOR THAT.

This thread will also help all of us to get some indication of percentages of persons who dropped status, stayed the same, or actually increased status from 2014. This will be for the FT population who reads this MileagePlus Forum, which is a small portion of the entire MileagePlus membership across the world. However, it may indicate some trends that can be applied to some extent to the entire population. UA will not release their statistics, so we can compile our own here on Flyertalk.

(There is a separate thread for 2015 in which a brief, 3 question survey is being taken in regards to persons' plans for 2015 for earning 2016 Premier status in light of the new PQD requirements for 2016 and new policies regarding earning Reward Mileage, or your other unique reasons. Please also take some time to answer that survey and expound on your 2015 plans for 2016 status in that thread. Thanks.)
HERE IS THE LINK TO THAT THREAD:
[2015] Version: What plans do you have in 2015 for earning 2016 Premier status?

While this present thread is anecdotal evidence from 2014 activity towards earning 2015 status from the small percentage of persons who post on FT compared to the vast number of Premiers who do not post on FT, it may still give us all some insights.

Perhaps even some from management at UA may read this thread to gain some insights. (Perhaps they MAY consider remarks here in making future changes in the Premier qualifications and/or benefits as a result of feedback here...after all, many FTers posted in the past about the food on UA flights and UAInsider posted in this Forum that UA says they heard the customers and are making changes for the food in 2015).

This present thread is not to debate past or future UA changes, rather it is a ROLL CALL and simple survey to get some simple data and reasonably short responses.

There are plenty of other threads to debate all those other issues.

Please, let us keep this thread simple and not get into long debates with other posters about UA policies, other issues like food, service, WiFi, IRROPS, etc. Do your debating with each other in those other threads.

Let's get some FT feedback. (please feel free to come back and edit if you later think of something else to say)

PLEASE REPORT SIMPLY:

(1) If your status remained the same from 2014 to 2015 or changed on Feb, 1. 2015 (the status changeover date). (What is your status?)

(example 2014 Plat.>2015 Plat., 2014 GM> 2015 GM, 2014 1K> 2015 Plat., 2014 Silver> 2015 Plat., 2014 GM> 2015 Silver, etc.)

Did the status you earned from 2013 for 2014 change from 2014 to 2015? (may indicate trends)

(example: 2013 Gold >2014 Plat>2015 Gold)

(2) What were the reasons your status changed, or remained the same on Feb. 1 ?... please expound in some detail FOR THE MOST RELEVANT TOP REASONS FOR YOU...... (see example reasons below) ... just keep statements concise and just please don't use a several paragraph essay with very lengthy explanations... Thanks.

(EXAMPLE REASONS (your possibilities may not be listed here) could include such as:
took advantage of a "Buy Up" offer before Feb 1 to maintain your status;could not/did not want to "buy up" status; voluntary choice; flew in 2014 and/or now flying other specific carriers that meet your wants/needs better; did status match in 2014 from UA to other carrier and decreased flying on UA; reduced your flying on UA in 2014 because of new 2015 Reward Mileage calculations announced in June 2014;you could not meet some or all of the 2014 PQM,PQS,PQD requirements for 2015 status .... such as fell short of Gold by 2,000 PQM, or fell short of 1K by $2,500 PQD, or had $10,000 PQD, but only 72,000 PQM, so fell short of Plat., etc...; you were exempt from PQD requirements because of credit card or foreign address....; in 2014 UA met your needs/routes needed for your flying better than other carriers; your company requires certain fare purchases or requires flying on UA, or on other carriers; you find other specific carriers better than UA for on-time arrivals and fewer IRROPS; you prefer routes, food, service, comfort, etc. of other specific carrier compared to UA; in 2014 you got a better upgrade percentage on other carriers; in 2014 you split your flying between UA and other specific carriers because..., etc.)

(3) Did you have any particular difficulties in maintaining or increasing your 2014 status for 2015?

(such as a trip you were counting on for PQDs, PQMs near end of year was cancelled; had trouble getting the needed PQDs; your company/business required flights on some other carriers which made it difficult for you to fly UA sufficiently, ; you had to do a mileage run towards the end of 2014 to get your PQMs or PQSs, OR PQDs; you TRIED to get MP to extend your status because you were close,but they would not, etc.)

AGAIN, (There is a separate thread for 2015 in which a brief, 3 question survey is being taken in regards to persons' plans for 2015 for earning 2016 Premier status in light of the new PQD requirements for 2016 and new policies regarding earning Reward Mileage, or your other unique reasons. Kindly expound on your 2015 plans for 2016 status in that thread. Thanks.)
HERE IS THE LINK TO THAT THREAD:
[2015] Version: What plans do you have in 2015 for earning 2016 Premier status?


Thanks for posting. I hope this thread will give us all some better insights.

Best wishes in 2015 and Happy flying.

Side note: It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the near future if the number of persons in Boarding group 1 seems to be significantly affected.... either seemingly smaller or greater number of persons.

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Old Feb 2, 15, 8:32 am
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Old Feb 2, 15, 8:42 am
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1K to Silver

Voluntary choice/PQD was the reason. I flew 60k EQM on AS & partners and another 25K MQM on DL. I did fly 60K on UA but only spent $4300 PQDs.

UA summary:
2009 - Premier
2010 - Premier Exec
2011 - Premier Exec
2012 - Gold
2013 - Plat/1K
2014 - 1K
2015 - Silver
expected 2016 - no status

DL summary:
2007 - Silver
2008 - Silver
2015 - Platinum (status match/challenge)
expected 2016 - Silver

AS Summary:
2014 - MVPG (status match)
2015 - MVPG
expected 2016 - MVP or MVPG

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Old Feb 2, 15, 8:44 am
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Thought about posting a similar question/poll in December...

1) Same (2013/2014 Gold)
2) Int'l travel cut to one Europe trip. Did the BAH MR to make up the slack.
3) Needed a MR & Chase waiver. Neither were very difficult.

2016: Plan to stay at Gold with virtually the same stats as last year.
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Old Feb 2, 15, 8:56 am
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1K to Plat

Couldn't meet the PQD requirements.
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Old Feb 2, 15, 8:56 am
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Old Feb 2, 15, 9:08 am
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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1k to lifetime Plat. Switched 100% of flying to AS/BA/Emirates/Cathay and couldn't be happier.
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Old Feb 2, 15, 9:16 am
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2013 -> 2014

Silver to Platinum

Change in job which required several overseas trips per year. *A just made the most sense for me with LH and LX covering the cities in Europe that UA does not.

PQD's will prevent me from getting anything higher, as my employer requires travel at lowest available fare, in coach, regardless of flight length / destination / etc. Honestly with the PQD increase, I could see myself dropping to Gold next year.

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Old Feb 2, 15, 9:19 am
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My wife and I both kepf our gold status, by using the chase wavier and Barely hitting 50k miles all pleasure flying,plan on the same for this year. *gold for overseas travel is great
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Old Feb 2, 15, 9:21 am
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No Status to Platinum

Voluntary Choice -- I was disgusted with the exhorbitant fuel surcharges on award tickets overseas with Air Canada so I switched allegiance.

I had no challenges really since I am based in Canada and was exempt from PQD consideration.
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Old Feb 2, 15, 9:23 am
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1K to 1K. No changes here. Flew 152K miles in 2014 and I'll likely be around the same this year.
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Old Feb 2, 15, 9:25 am
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I just posted in the other thread (not having noticed this one). I was 1K and am 1K again. My SO went from Silver to Platinum because of the $1,500 fares to EU last summer. I went from living near EWR to living near ORD, so the hubs make it convenient.
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Old Feb 2, 15, 9:26 am
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1K to Gold due to PQMs. Well over the PQD threshold.
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Old Feb 2, 15, 9:31 am
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Platinum to Gold

Status matched to DL in Aug 2014 so my UA flying came to an immediate halt.
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Old Feb 2, 15, 9:35 am
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Went from silver to gold. Voluntary choice, mostly due to *A
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