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Carry-on Bags and Personal Items that have been tested to fit in the New Sizers
Published carry-on limit: 9"x14"x22" (22 cm x 35 cm x 56 cm)
Actual sizer dimensions: 10"x15"x23"
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17" (22 cm x 25 cm x 43 cm)
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Carry-On Sizer
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Personal Item Sizer
Bags that Do Not Fit Sizers
Official size as per Rule 23.B.2, Baggage, Contract of Carriage:
relatyed thread: Baggage sizer use at the gate? (No longer at gates after 23 Jan 2020)
Carry-on Bags and Personal Items that have been tested to fit in the New Sizers
Published carry-on limit: 9"x14"x22" (22 cm x 35 cm x 56 cm)
Actual sizer dimensions: 10"x15"x23"
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17" (22 cm x 25 cm x 43 cm)
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Carry-On Sizer
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Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment Briggs & Riley Baseline 20" 03/2014 IAH boraxo Briggs & Riley Torq 01/2014 CLE lordhamster Briggs & Riley Transcend TU220XW-4 03/2014 COS mre5765. 311 bag had to be removed from outer pouch. Two weeks of clothes. Briggs & Riley U122CX 01/2014 SNA sakaike Briggs & Riley BU119 (BRX 19 upright) 05/2014 SMF PV_Premier, snug in 10" dimension even when packed lightly - bag fits in any mainline OH however :rolleyes: Brookstone Dash Office 01/2014 DSM Fits OH E145/C200 Delsey Helium Sky 21" 01/2015 LHR secretsea18 Eagle Creek Hovercraft 22" 03/2014 CLT Not stuffed full eBags TLS Mini 21"EB2146-21W 04/2014 swco-not overstuffed, just fit Heys Xcase 12/2013 LAX abaheti Int'l Paper Safeway Grocery 02/2014 IAH IAH-OIL-TRASH Kirkland Signature 21.5 12/2013 SFO Lat56 RW01 2 wheel 05/2016 AUS txirish Red Oxx Air Boss 02/2014 SFO N1120A (loaded) Red Oxx Sky Train 01/2014 SFO N1120A (loaded) Ricardo of BevHills Dash 20inch Dual 01/2014 Fredd Wheel Spinner Costco @ $50-expandable Rick Steves Backpack 12/2013 LAX LaserSailor Rimowa Limbo Cabin IATA 02/2014 SEA MSY-MSP Rimowa Salsa Deluxe IATA 02/2014 SEA MSY-MSP Rimowa Lufthansa 747-8 IATA 08/2014 IAD N1120A Samsonite Aspire Lite 03/2014 DEN Samsonite Short-Lite 2-wheeled 12/2013 ORD Lightest bag out there Samsonite Silhouette Sphere 21" 05/2014 BOS Fits perfectly but very snugly Tom Bihn Aeronaut 03/2014 Uncle Dave - fits every dimension with room to spare Travelite Delite v 2.0 02/2014 ORD exbayern (bag full) TravelPro Crew 4 22" 08/2014 SFO Not stuffed full TravelPro Crew 7 20" 12/2013 KWI full - not expanded FriendlySkies TravelPro Crew 8 22" 11/2013 DFW Not stuffed full TravelPro Crew 9 21" spinner 02/2014 ORD ilovesprint not stuffed TravelPro FlightCrew3 22" 02/2014 BOS Not stuffed full. Very snug fit CDKing TravelPro FlightCrew4 20" various Not stuffed TravelPro Maxlite2 20in 12/2013 SFO Expandable too TravelPro Maxlite2 22in 03/2014 Snug fit not stuffed TravelPro Maxlite3 21" 04/2014 EWR EmileG - full, outside compartment empty TravelPro Walkabout Spinners2 21" 04/2014 EWR EmileG - full, outside compartment empty TravelPro Walkabout Lite 4 03/2014 IND United747 - pretty empty bag to start with TUMI Alpha 22922 Many FLL DelrayChris TUMI Alpha 28251 lw Continental 03/2014 EWR lensman TUMI Alpha 2 22021 Continental 04/2014 EWR suzy1K - fit perfectly. Bag full, not expanded TUMI Alpha International 20" 022020DH 04/2014 SFO Snug if front pocket used, easy fit on 22/23" dimension by 1" TUMI T-Tech Int'l Carryon 04/2014 jeremiahsullivan Victorinox Avolve 22" 02/2014 SFO MrOCTeckels - only with front pocket empty Victorinox Mobilizer NXT 5.0 20" 03/2014 ORD gobluetwo - not expanded, every dimension fits with room to spare Victorinox WT 4.0 Duffel 21" 03/2014 ORD gobluetwo - packed for 3 days, squeezed sides easily into sizer
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Personal Item Sizer
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Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment Briggs & Riley Verb VB414-4 03/2014 COS mre5765. Easy fit despite being stuffed with sleeved 13 inch lap top, ipad mini, kindle paperwhite, pills, papers, chargers, ... Case Logic 14" ZLCS-214 04/2014 EWR Fly5x eBags TLS Pro Slim Laptop 04/2014 Backpack EB2146-16 Everki Versa Premium Backpack 07/2014 ORD gobluetwo Red Oxx CPA 12/2014 YYZ N1120A Skooba Satchel v3 02/2014 ORD ilovesprint Tom Bihn Co-Pilot 03/2014 SFO frankmu Tom Bihn Super Ego 03/2014 GRR LufthansaFlyer Tom Binh Western Flyer 01/2014 DSM when packed "right" Waterfield Cargo Large 01/2014 SFO MrOCTeckels LL Bean North Ridge Backpack 04/2014 LAX fgirard Works with a 13" MackBook, Asus Transformer packed inside
Bags that Do Not Fit Sizers
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Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment Eagle Creek Tarmac 20 wide 03/3014 AUS Curvature on back increases width Eagle Creek Tarmac ES 22 03/2014 1/2 inch too tall Gregory Cache 22 03/2014 BOS Cloudship Timbuk2 Checkpoint Roller 12/2014 BOS Cloudship Tumi Alpha Backpack 03/2014 SEA Full bag, fit length and height, 1/2" too tall when laying on side in personal sizer.
Official size as per Rule 23.B.2, Baggage, Contract of Carriage:
https://www.united.com/web/format/pd...f_Carriage.pdf
Carry-on Baggage must not exceed the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions of 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm), which includes its wheels and handles.
Personal items must not exceed 9 inches (22 cm) x 10 inches (25 cm) x 17 inches (43 cm), which includes any wheels and handles.
A personal item that exceeds these maximum linear dimensions but is not greater than 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm) will be considered as Carry-on Baggage. Carry-on Baggage or personal items suspected of being oversized may require being placed into a sizing unit to determine acceptability. Carry-on Baggage that exceeds the Maximum Linear Dimensions allowed or that exceeds the Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance will be considered as Checked Baggage and is subject to Checked Baggage service charges.
Carry-on Baggage must not exceed the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions of 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm), which includes its wheels and handles.
Personal items must not exceed 9 inches (22 cm) x 10 inches (25 cm) x 17 inches (43 cm), which includes any wheels and handles.
A personal item that exceeds these maximum linear dimensions but is not greater than 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm) will be considered as Carry-on Baggage. Carry-on Baggage or personal items suspected of being oversized may require being placed into a sizing unit to determine acceptability. Carry-on Baggage that exceeds the Maximum Linear Dimensions allowed or that exceeds the Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance will be considered as Checked Baggage and is subject to Checked Baggage service charges.
Carry-on Items That Meets UA's Size Requirements? Enforcement?
Nov 9, 2017, 1:05 pm
#121
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: New England
Programs: American Gold, Marriott Gold, Hilton Silver
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Thanks for the thread link, some good info there on a few bags, but no firm measurements that I saw on my quick scan through the thread. Next time it comes up, I'll try to remember to pack a tape measure as I recall the biggest problem is the opening to the bin is thinner than the inside.
~12 inches tall, ~14 inches deep, ~60 inches long
The published dimensions of my bag are 10.5"x13"x18". The 10.5" does not include the straps and buckles, which add at least another inch to the thickness, and the bag will not fit if I have my laptop in it (adding .5" to .75" thickness to the back). The bag is 13 inches wide, and it just barely fits sideways, with maybe half an inch to 3/4ths of an inch of space between the side of the bag and the lip of the bin. The 60 inch dimension is derived from the fact that the bins span two rows, and each row has 31 inches of pitch, for a total of 62 inches, but I subtracted two for the ends, where the sides of the bins would take up space.
I can't be certain, but the underseat space might actually be larger than these bins!
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Nov 12, 2017, 7:39 am
#122
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Austin, TX
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 141
Citivas, I went through the same dilemma last year as described in my One Bag to Rule Them All thread. I'm also a United flyer though I connect to other lines abroad. Got lots of advice saying "they never use the sizer" but I wanted to be ready in case that changed. Sounds like it has for you, although I've yet to see a GA actually use one. As part of that effort, I carried a gorgeous Lat 56 roller and a nice but inexpensive Delsey to the airport and tested them in domestic sizers. They both failed United's.
I found that the B&R Domestic U122CX-4 fits the United sizer box in a way that makes maximum use of the available space - it fills the sizer completely. It's profile is rectangular, not slightly pear-shaped like, say, many Delseys. Even relatively stuffed, it should squeeze into the sizer. After a year and a half, I'm happy with the bag.
Downsides: expensive, heavy (about 10 lbs), and too tall for some European airlines official dimensions. But, I've never had it denied in Europe or Asia.
I found that the B&R Domestic U122CX-4 fits the United sizer box in a way that makes maximum use of the available space - it fills the sizer completely. It's profile is rectangular, not slightly pear-shaped like, say, many Delseys. Even relatively stuffed, it should squeeze into the sizer. After a year and a half, I'm happy with the bag.
Downsides: expensive, heavy (about 10 lbs), and too tall for some European airlines official dimensions. But, I've never had it denied in Europe or Asia.
Feb 16, 2018, 1:53 pm
#123
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 7
Tumi butler backpack acceptable as personal item on UA?
Looking to invest in new backpack to store under the seat when flying on United. It is 1.5 inches above max of 10 inches for personal items for width on one side... If I can squish it into the sizer will UA still accept it? The Tumi Butler Backpack measures
H: 16.75 inW: 11.5 inD: 5.5
Any advice would be greatly appreciated and thank you!
Any advice would be greatly appreciated and thank you!
Feb 16, 2018, 2:00 pm
#124
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London
Programs: UA GS
Posts: 2,438
Looking to invest in new backpack to store under the seat when flying on United. It is 1.5 inches above max of 10 inches for personal items for width on one side... If I can squish it into the sizer will UA still accept it? The Tumi Butler Backpack measures
H: 16.75 inW: 11.5 inD: 5.5
Any advice would be greatly appreciated and thank you!
Any advice would be greatly appreciated and thank you!
Feb 16, 2018, 2:01 pm
#125
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I doubt you will have any issue as it looks like a pretty regular size. If you were wearing a much bigger backpack that really stood out, they might ask you to put it in the sizer.
My backpack is the same size and I have never been stopped. In economy you will likely have to squeeze the sides of the backpack to make it fit under the aisle seat (or any seat with an entertainment box).
My backpack is the same size and I have never been stopped. In economy you will likely have to squeeze the sides of the backpack to make it fit under the aisle seat (or any seat with an entertainment box).
Feb 16, 2018, 3:48 pm
#127
Join Date: Jul 2016
Programs: UA1K | *A Gold
Posts: 767
I've never seen UA checking sizes. The only time the gate agent has ever glanced at my carry on is on the smaller planes that require a green tag for your carry on to be gate checked. Do they do this for the basic economy tickets now?
Feb 16, 2018, 4:26 pm
#128
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: San Francisco/Sydney
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For the 'carry-on bag' at least, they do check on occasions. They were definitely checking on my ORD-SFO last weekend, for groups 2 and higher (and possibly group 1, but I got there after group 1 had boarded so I can't be sure). Everything that looked even close was sent to the sizer. Any bags that were too large were being tagged and kept by the podium (no doubt stopping people from removing the tags on the jetbridge and boarding with the bag).
I've never seen them pay any real attention to the "personal item", only the main bag.
If it was above the sizer, you shouldn't be forced to check the backpack, but more so the other bag you've got (at which point the backpack would become the main carry-on item, and thus it's size would be fine). But realistically as long as it's at least close I wouldn't expect any problems - especially if the main carryon bag wasn't oversized.
If it was above the sizer, you shouldn't be forced to check the backpack, but more so the other bag you've got (at which point the backpack would become the main carry-on item, and thus it's size would be fine). But realistically as long as it's at least close I wouldn't expect any problems - especially if the main carryon bag wasn't oversized.
Feb 25, 2018, 4:25 pm
#129
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: MSP
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I'm having a difficult time finding a personal item bag that meets the dimensions for both UA and AC. Combined, this is a 17"x10"x6" limit (the 6" comes from AC). Specifically, the problem is the 10". My briefcase that I've used for years is 17"x12"x4". Even shopping around online for messenger bags etc., everything seems to be at least 11" on the middle dimension. My laptop itself is 12"x9" so there's gotta be some sort of 10" bag that could fit my laptop and a couple of other small personal items, but I can't find one. I don't want a simple laptop holder because I'd like at least one additional pocket on it. Also I'd prefer it had a shoulder strap. Does anyone know anything?
Feb 25, 2018, 5:36 pm
#130
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AVP & PEK
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Was surprised on my last EWR-PEK flight on a 77Y plane that gate agent asked the person in front of me in Group 1 to check his carry-on bag in the sizer. He reluctantly tried but it did not fit, so the GA insisted he gate check it.
The odd thing is that the bag didn't look any bigger than 80%+ of other bags that I see. Not sure why GA singled out this guy.
And needless to say, the passenger was NOT happy and voiced this opinion loudly!
The odd thing is that the bag didn't look any bigger than 80%+ of other bags that I see. Not sure why GA singled out this guy.
And needless to say, the passenger was NOT happy and voiced this opinion loudly!
Feb 25, 2018, 5:51 pm
#131
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Kansas City, MO
Programs: DL Plat, UA Plat
Posts: 150
Was surprised on my last EWR-PEK flight on a 77Y plane that gate agent asked the person in front of me in Group 1 to check his carry-on bag in the sizer. He reluctantly tried but it did not fit, so the GA insisted he gate check it.
The odd thing is that the bag didn't look any bigger than 80%+ of other bags that I see. Not sure why GA singled out this guy.
And needless to say, the passenger was NOT happy and voiced this opinion loudly!
The odd thing is that the bag didn't look any bigger than 80%+ of other bags that I see. Not sure why GA singled out this guy.
And needless to say, the passenger was NOT happy and voiced this opinion loudly!
Feb 25, 2018, 6:25 pm
#133
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Feb 25, 2018, 6:36 pm
#134
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I've seen and boarded through this GA many times, and although he's not particulary friendly, he never struck me as "hawkish".
Feb 25, 2018, 6:37 pm
#135
Join Date: Oct 2008
Programs: UA 1K, 1MM
Posts: 504
What's everyone's general opinion on a Samsonite garment bag? Assume instead of a regular carry on I had a garment bag and a personal item (laptop bag). Would that get flagged as not fitting in the sizer and need to be checked? Searching has landed this in a dead end for me - beyond "if its special they'll usually hang it in the closet" but I think those questions are people that have a carry on AND a garment bag