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Carry-on Bags and Personal Items that have been tested to fit in the New Sizers

Published carry-on limit: 9"x14"x22" (22 cm x 35 cm x 56 cm)
Actual sizer dimensions: 10"x15"x23"

Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17" (22 cm x 25 cm x 43 cm)
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"

Bags that Fit Carry-On Sizer

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Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment
 Briggs & Riley Baseline 20" 03/2014 IAH boraxo
 Briggs & Riley Torq 01/2014 CLE lordhamster
 Briggs & Riley Transcend TU220XW-4 03/2014 COS mre5765. 311 bag had to be removed from outer pouch. Two weeks of clothes.
 Briggs & Riley U122CX 01/2014 SNA sakaike
 Briggs & Riley BU119 (BRX 19 upright) 05/2014 SMF PV_Premier, snug in 10" dimension even when packed lightly - bag fits in any mainline OH however :rolleyes:
 Brookstone Dash Office 01/2014 DSM Fits OH E145/C200
 Delsey Helium Sky 21" 01/2015 LHR secretsea18
 Eagle Creek Hovercraft 22" 03/2014 CLT Not stuffed full
 eBags TLS Mini 21"EB2146-21W 04/2014 swco-not overstuffed, just fit
 Heys Xcase 12/2013 LAX abaheti
 Int'l Paper Safeway Grocery 02/2014 IAH IAH-OIL-TRASH
 Kirkland Signature 21.5 12/2013 SFO
 Lat56 RW01 2 wheel 05/2016 AUS txirish
 Red Oxx Air Boss 02/2014 SFO N1120A (loaded)
 Red Oxx Sky Train 01/2014 SFO N1120A (loaded)
 Ricardo of BevHills Dash 20inch Dual 01/2014 Fredd
 Wheel Spinner Costco @ $50-expandable
 Rick Steves Backpack 12/2013 LAX LaserSailor
 Rimowa Limbo Cabin IATA 02/2014 SEA MSY-MSP
 Rimowa Salsa Deluxe IATA 02/2014 SEA MSY-MSP
 Rimowa Lufthansa 747-8 IATA 08/2014 IAD N1120A
 Samsonite Aspire Lite 03/2014 DEN
 Samsonite Short-Lite 2-wheeled 12/2013 ORD Lightest bag out there
 Samsonite Silhouette Sphere 21" 05/2014 BOS Fits perfectly but very snugly
 Tom Bihn Aeronaut 03/2014 Uncle Dave - fits every dimension with room to spare
 Travelite Delite v 2.0 02/2014 ORD exbayern (bag full)
 TravelPro Crew 4 22" 08/2014 SFO Not stuffed full
 TravelPro Crew 7 20" 12/2013 KWI full - not expanded FriendlySkies
 TravelPro Crew 8 22" 11/2013 DFW Not stuffed full
 TravelPro Crew 9 21" spinner 02/2014 ORD ilovesprint not stuffed
 TravelPro FlightCrew3 22" 02/2014 BOS Not stuffed full. Very snug fit CDKing
 TravelPro FlightCrew4 20" various Not stuffed
 TravelPro Maxlite2 20in 12/2013 SFO Expandable too
 TravelPro Maxlite2 22in 03/2014 Snug fit not stuffed
 TravelPro Maxlite3 21" 04/2014 EWR EmileG - full, outside compartment empty
 TravelPro Walkabout Spinners2 21" 04/2014 EWR EmileG - full, outside compartment empty
 TravelPro Walkabout Lite 4 03/2014 IND United747 - pretty empty bag to start with
 TUMI Alpha 22922 Many FLL DelrayChris
 TUMI Alpha 28251 lw Continental 03/2014 EWR lensman
 TUMI Alpha 2 22021 Continental 04/2014 EWR suzy1K - fit perfectly. Bag full, not expanded
 TUMI Alpha International 20" 022020DH 04/2014 SFO Snug if front pocket used, easy fit on 22/23" dimension by 1"
 TUMI T-Tech Int'l Carryon 04/2014 jeremiahsullivan
 Victorinox Avolve 22" 02/2014 SFO MrOCTeckels - only with front pocket empty
 Victorinox Mobilizer NXT 5.0 20" 03/2014 ORD gobluetwo - not expanded, every dimension fits with room to spare
 Victorinox WT 4.0 Duffel 21" 03/2014 ORD gobluetwo - packed for 3 days, squeezed sides easily into sizer


Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"

Bags that Fit Personal Item Sizer


Code:
Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment
 Briggs & Riley Verb VB414-4 03/2014 COS mre5765. Easy fit despite being stuffed with sleeved 13 inch lap top, ipad mini, kindle paperwhite, pills, papers, chargers, ...
 Case Logic 14" ZLCS-214 04/2014 EWR Fly5x
 eBags TLS Pro Slim Laptop 04/2014
 Backpack EB2146-16
 Everki Versa Premium Backpack 07/2014 ORD gobluetwo
 Red Oxx CPA 12/2014 YYZ N1120A
 Skooba Satchel v3 02/2014 ORD ilovesprint
 Tom Bihn Co-Pilot 03/2014 SFO frankmu
 Tom Bihn Super Ego 03/2014 GRR LufthansaFlyer
 Tom Binh Western Flyer 01/2014 DSM when packed "right"
 Waterfield Cargo Large 01/2014 SFO MrOCTeckels
 LL Bean North Ridge Backpack 04/2014 LAX fgirard Works with a 13" MackBook, Asus Transformer packed inside

Bags that Do Not Fit Sizers

Code:
Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment
 Eagle Creek Tarmac 20 wide 03/3014 AUS Curvature on back increases width
 Eagle Creek Tarmac ES 22 03/2014 1/2 inch too tall
 Gregory Cache 22 03/2014 BOS Cloudship
 Timbuk2 Checkpoint Roller 12/2014 BOS Cloudship
 Tumi Alpha Backpack 03/2014 SEA Full bag, fit length and height, 1/2" too tall when laying on side in personal sizer.

Official size as per Rule 23.B.2, Baggage, Contract of Carriage:
https://www.united.com/web/format/pd...f_Carriage.pdf

Carry-on Baggage must not exceed the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions of 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm), which includes its wheels and handles.

Personal items must not exceed 9 inches (22 cm) x 10 inches (25 cm) x 17 inches (43 cm), which includes any wheels and handles.

A personal item that exceeds these maximum linear dimensions but is not greater than 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm) will be considered as Carry-on Baggage. Carry-on Baggage or personal items suspected of being oversized may require being placed into a sizing unit to determine acceptability. Carry-on Baggage that exceeds the Maximum Linear Dimensions allowed or that exceeds the Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance will be considered as Checked Baggage and is subject to Checked Baggage service charges.
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Old Aug 22, 2017, 7:03 pm
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UAL Personal Sized Item

I have attempted to wade through the forums 1194 pages also attempted to use the advanced search feature without finding the answer. Does anyone know of a 2 wheeled bag with extension handle and a shoulder strap that meets UAL'S personal size item requirements of no larger than 9 inches x 10 inches x 17 inches (22 cm x 25 cm x 43 cm).
Have read numerous posts of the requirement not being or loosely enforced but am looking for a bag that will meet the requirements( better safe than sorry attitude here). Have a shoulder bag but have found lately some of the longer gate treks are getting uncomfortable with it.
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Old Aug 22, 2017, 10:45 pm
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... Does anyone know of a 2 wheeled bag with extension handle and a shoulder strap that meets UAL'S personal size item requirements of no larger than 9 inches x 10 inches x 17 inches (22 cm x 25 cm x 43 cm). ...
This thread's wiki has a number of verified bags. Has been a lot of recent additions but the bag world does not change that fast.
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Old Aug 23, 2017, 12:22 am
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
This thread's wiki has a number of verified bags. Has been a lot of recent additions but the bag world does not change that fast.
None of the bags in the wiki that fit the personal item sizer are of the type that the poster above you was asking about.

On a related note, I'm curious as to whether there are any wheeled bags that fit the personal item sizer. All of the bags in the wiki for the Personal Item size are either backpacks or laptop/satchel/shoulder bags.
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Old Aug 25, 2017, 6:04 pm
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B&R 231X?

Anyone tried the B&R 231X when either one or both expansions are opened? Looks like a great bag that should easily fit the personal item sizer when not expanded.
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At some point, I will test my Red Oxx Mini Boss in the personal item sizer. While the listed dimensions on the Red Oxx site suggest a length that may be too long, the total combined inches are well within the dimensions and I think it might fit. Over in Travel Products, I posted a review in which I noted just how long I was able to travel out of it.
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Old Nov 8, 2017, 10:00 am
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Carry Ons that actually fit in the United sizer box?

Hi, I found an old topic on this but it's been archived with no recent posts...

More and more often, the gate agents at United are forcing me and my family to prove our carry-ons fit using their sizer box at the gate before getting on the plane. Our carry-ons easily fit in the actual overhead bins on the plane, even stored vertically to maximize space. But they are tight in the sizer boxes and sometimes rejected. Since we need a new carry on I decided to be more careful and research the size carefully before buying and to my great frustration am having trouble finding a carry on that isn't tiny that fits. All the companies seem to be selling them an inch or two too big in one or more dimensions. I found a great comprehensive list on this site from a couple years ago of specific models that supposedly fit the sizer but then when I researched a bunch of them their dimensions actually all exceed the 22 x 14 x 9 dimensions once you include the wheels and handle. It's baffling why the luggage companies put out specs that don't include the wheels and why they would make so many "carry ons" that aren't.

For example, I called TravelPro directly. In the end, they admitted they didn't make any carry ons that meet the United spec. They said they use them on United all the time but couldn't assure it would pass the sizer box test. Similar with Samsonite. Even the reviews are baffling. I found a bunch of reviews for various TravelPro and Samsonite bags that claimed specifically they worked in the United sizer boxes but their dimensions are larger than the box. That wouldn't trouble me with depth since you can compress the bags somewhat. But it makes no sense with length where the wheels are not compressible.

I'm looking for a reasonable roller carry on (2 or 4 wheels) that is as large an interior space as possible that actually fits the 22 x 14 x 9 sizer box.

Any suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks.
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Old Nov 8, 2017, 10:38 am
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Hi, I found an old topic on this but it's been archived with no recent posts... ...
Welcome to FT!, citivas

Here is the thread you were looking for. The thread's wiki has a few verified suggestions. BTW, I use the TUMI Alpha International 20" 022020DH.

Generally, when a thread has been archived, the last post in the archive thread points to the replacement thread.

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Welcome to FT!, citivas

Here is the thread you were looking for. The thread's wiki has a few verified suggestions. BTW, I use the TUMI Alpha International 20" 022020DH.

Generally, when a thread has been archived, the last post in the archive thread points to the replacement thread.

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Thanks.

What I don't understand is that when you research the actual size measurements of many of the "verified" bags in the wiki, they exceed 22" x 14" x 9". As I mentioned, customer TravelPro even told me directly that none of their wheeled carry-ons fit those exterior dimensions. So why are they are the list? I keep cutting and pasting bags from that verified list and Googling dimensions only to find them exceeding them.
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Originally Posted by citivas
... What I don't understand is that when you research the actual size measurements of many of the "verified" bags in the wiki, they exceed 22" x 14" x 9". ...
The sizer dimensions are 23 x 15 x 10 (1 extra inch in each dimension). UA has made the sizer oversize to cover people overstuffing their bags and generally to minimize issues for those close to the posted measurements. Hard to argue your bag meets the posted requirements if does not fit an oversized sizer.

The list in the wiki is based on travelers actual experience. AS you have found out the manufacturer numbers are unreliable and their customer support agents knowledge is limited (understandable because the airlines' requirements are all over the map).
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Old Nov 8, 2017, 11:38 am
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Originally Posted by citivas
Thanks.

What I don't understand is that when you research the actual size measurements of many of the "verified" bags in the wiki, they exceed 22" x 14" x 9". As I mentioned, customer TravelPro even told me directly that none of their wheeled carry-ons fit those exterior dimensions. So why are they are the list? I keep cutting and pasting bags from that verified list and Googling dimensions only to find them exceeding them.
Nobody is on the same page. Airlines, at least those in the US, never used to be quite so rigid on their restrictions until they discovered they could make money of of it. Manufacturers were more concerned with marketing by making themselves look better than they really were, so market the bag size and not the overall dimensions. There was an attempt a year or so ago that tried to fix the problem, but in the end it was too restrictive and too in favor of the airlines and not the passengers, so it never got off the ground, pardon the pun.


The simplest solution would be for airline to instead of building metal sizers, just take a few sets of bins from old planes, cut them up into standard lengths and use THOSE as sizers in the airport. But then again it is not so much they are concerned with fit as they are revenue, so I doubt that will ever happen.
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Old Nov 8, 2017, 12:24 pm
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Anyone want to volunteer to measure the bin boxes on a CR7? I'm always thinking about what the biggest bag I might be able to fit up there with wheels, for those days when I know I have a tight connection, it would great to know what I can legitimately take on board without too much trouble. I've been getting more E-175s lately which fit most sizer compliant bags, so hopefully this will be a problem of the past some day....
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Old Nov 8, 2017, 12:31 pm
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..... The simplest solution would be for airline to instead of building metal sizers, just take a few sets of bins from old planes, cut them up into standard lengths and use THOSE as sizers in the airport. ....
The OHB bins are different sizes for different aircraft -- Airbus are different than Boeing. Different Being 7x7 bins are different. Even different 737 OHB are different sizes. There is no universal bin, so UA (and other airlines), had to pick a bit of a worse case set of dimensions to work in the majority of cases.

Originally Posted by asquare
Anyone want to volunteer to measure the bin boxes on a CR7? .......
See Carry-on / Overhead bins size limits for various UX aircraft
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Old Nov 9, 2017, 12:35 am
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Thanks for the thread link, some good info there on a few bags, but no firm measurements that I saw on my quick scan through the thread. Next time it comes up, I'll try to remember to pack a tape measure as I recall the biggest problem is the opening to the bin is thinner than the inside.
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Old Nov 9, 2017, 6:21 am
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
The OHB bins are different sizes for different aircraft -- Airbus are different than Boeing. Different Being 7x7 bins are different. Even different 737 OHB are different sizes. There is no universal bin, so UA (and other airlines), had to pick a bit of a worse case set of dimensions to work in the majority of cases.

See Carry-on / Overhead bins size limits for various UX aircraft
So you pick the smallest. Bins are getting larger anyways, so these would probably come from the oldest aircraft you are probably getting rid of anyway.
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
The OHB bins are different sizes for different aircraft -- Airbus are different than Boeing. Different Being 7x7 bins are different. Even different 737 OHB are different sizes. There is no universal bin, so UA (and other airlines), had to pick a bit of a worse case set of dimensions to work in the majority of cases.

See Carry-on / Overhead bins size limits for various UX aircraft
So you pick the smallest. ....
That would be more restrictive than the present published limits. Don't see the win for the customer in doing this.

Bottom line, there needs to some limits and better (known in advance, less confusion, uncertainty) to have a consistent set of dimensions. Yes, it may be more restrictive than needed for some aircraft -- but I (and reasonable sure the general public) don't want to have to research in advance the aircraft to determine which bags will work or don't work.
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