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More 757 diversons today
Eight TATL 757s to EWR stopping for gas at Gander, Goose Bay and Bangor today. BCN, MAN, AMS, ARN, LIS, MAD, EDI and BHX. One TATL 757 to IAD stopping for gas at Goose Bay from LHR. DUB to EWR 757 flight status showing as overflying Bangor. Going to keep off these 757s at this time of the year.
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Originally Posted by ironmanjt
(Post 24133667)
Holy bad winds today - looks like almost EVERY westbound transatlantic made a fuel stop today, including LHR-IAD and LHR-EWR! Only SNN-EWR was planned nonstop along with 115 LHR-EWR. The other 757 LHR-EWR canceled :rolleyes:
edit: DUB-EWR overflew a planned BGR stop, looks like they had enough fuel after all |
Originally Posted by OrlandoFlyer
(Post 24133753)
Eight TATL 757s to EWR stopping for gas at Gander, Goose Bay and Bangor today. BCN, MAN, AMS, ARN, LIS, MAD, EDI and BHX. One TATL 757 to IAD stopping for gas at Goose Bay from LHR. DUB to EWR 757 flight status showing as overflying Bangor. Going to keep off these 757s at this time of the year.
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Originally Posted by UA-NYC
(Post 24133854)
They should really invest in some full-time (or at least seasonal) employees at these new mini-hubs ;)
*Granted the C-32A also has a slight (1k lbs) MTOW bump and a ton of extra fuel capacity (for a 38% increase in loaded range over the winglet-ed civilian 752) via cells in both holds. It would probably be easier to just put the extra ~15,000 lbs of fuel capacity on board than invest in a tanker fleet, but only one of the options allows us to hear "if you look out the left side you can see the tanker we just refueled from turning around" :D. |
Originally Posted by ironmanjt
(Post 24133667)
Holy bad winds today - looks like almost EVERY westbound transatlantic made a fuel stop today, including LHR-IAD and LHR-EWR! Only SNN-EWR was planned nonstop along with 115 LHR-EWR. The other 757 LHR-EWR canceled :rolleyes:
edit: DUB-EWR overflew a planned BGR stop, looks like they had enough fuel after all
Originally Posted by OrlandoFlyer
(Post 24133753)
Eight TATL 757s to EWR stopping for gas at Gander, Goose Bay and Bangor today. BCN, MAN, AMS, ARN, LIS, MAD, EDI and BHX. One TATL 757 to IAD stopping for gas at Goose Bay from LHR. DUB to EWR 757 flight status showing as overflying Bangor. Going to keep off these 757s at this time of the year.
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Originally Posted by wto605
(Post 24134043)
I would rather see them invest in areal refueling. I know the C-32 (US Military spec 752, notably the C-32A VIP Transport commonly used by Secretary of State and/or as Airforce 2 INTL trips) has receiving capability, if only UA had converted the pmCO 762s into a civilian version of KC-767.
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Originally Posted by yytleisure
(Post 24132346)
YQX isn't northern Canada! At 48-49N it's further south than the U.S./Can border out west. YYR at 53N is more northerly but in a country that extends to 80N that's positively tropical :) eastern Canada would be a better description. Sorry to knit pick, just a sensitive Newfoundlander here who tries to spread the word about our beautiful little rock in the ocean. Most North American maps do use a projection that shows us near Greenland but I live farther south than Seattle. Minor geography lesson for today. Now back to your regular program...
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Originally Posted by yytleisure
(Post 24132346)
Most North American maps do use a projection that shows us near Greenland but I live farther south than Seattle. Minor geography lesson for today. Now back to your regular program...
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Originally Posted by rankourabu
(Post 24144961)
Most pax are probably happy the plane didnt run out of fuel.....
And what compensation would apply to these long (type 3) flights, where in most cases its a 0.5-1.5 hour "delay". Has anything ever been delayed over 4 hours? i believe this happened with OSL-EWR a couple of weeks ago, i remember it mentioned in this thread or the INTL cancel/delays thread. |
Only two refueling stops today - TXL and BCN.
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As there is a separate EU261 thread, have moved the discussion of what conditions merits a EU261 claim to http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...st-united.html.
WineCountryUA UA coModerator |
OK - but people should know they are eligible for EU261 when they have a fuel stop on these flights that are the topic of this thread - if they are delayed for 3+ hours to their final destination including connecting flights!
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Originally Posted by Germanfflyer
(Post 24145796)
OK - but people should know they are eligible for EU261 when they have a fuel stop on these flights that are the topic of this thread - if they are delayed for 3+ hours to their final destination including connecting flights!
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Originally Posted by UA-NYC
(Post 24146155)
It's too bad that I bet maybe ~5% of pax on these flights, max, will be aware of this and know what to do
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Originally Posted by bmwe92fan
(Post 24104117)
OK - so as a regular traveler on many of these routes for the past three years I believe I can safely say that the past few months have seen unusually strong headwinds. I fly from MAN / BCN / TXL monthly back to the states and I have never seen it this bad. I don't think it's UA to be honest - and I do think that the 757 is the right plane for secondary cities in western europe to the US (flame suit on).... It's just been a tough year weather wise for flights back to the US - and I have started booking away from the 757 routes to 767/777 for this winter (typically adding an intra EU connection via LHR/FRA/MUC) - but I wouldn't call it a UA issue.... The demand just isn't there in winter for a widebody to cities like BCN or MAN or TXL - and typically a 757 can make it - but it's been a tough weather year so far....
Regarding your comment about lack of demand, I'd be interested to hear how you think this sits with the offer I received of a $200 travel voucher in return for giving up my seat because the flight was overbooked. The first week of January always has higher demand because of people returning home after visiting Europe for Christmas and specifically for visitors to the Consumer Electronics Show. |
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