New UA BF seat research
Sep 2, 2014, 10:43 am
#123
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Nov 8, 2014, 7:29 am
#124
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The prototypes shown were a significant leap forward from the current UA/CO seat but NOT a significant leap forward from the new AA 777-300 seat by any measure that I could detect.
We should be happy that UA is not considering a less than state of the art seat like the business class seat Lufthansa is currently rolling out, which does not even offer direct aisle access for all seats.
Going all lie-flat back 7 years ago was such a leap. I frankly don't see that opportunity today.
On the hard product side, UA was ahead of LH the last two cycles and might be again, when they introduce the next generation.
My recent CX flights on those seats were very comfortable and made for a nice sleep.
Loss of GF will be a huge drawback!
Nov 8, 2014, 9:18 am
#125
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Would be interested to know, what the next generation quantum leap C-seat would entail. Seems to me, that would be closer to the better F-seats on the market today.
Going all lie-flat back 7 years ago was such a leap. I frankly don't see that opportunity today.
On the hard product side, UA was ahead of LH the last two cycles and might be again, when they introduce the next generation.
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Going all lie-flat back 7 years ago was such a leap. I frankly don't see that opportunity today.
On the hard product side, UA was ahead of LH the last two cycles and might be again, when they introduce the next generation.
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Here is a link to the new Etihad business class:
http://thedesignair.net/2014/07/04/f...ourney-part-3/
I would agree it is not as big a leap and it still protects the product difference between first class and business class.
Nov 8, 2014, 9:46 am
#126
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The new J class seat is very similar to the current CO BF seat and UA GF seat blend them together add some sharp edges and darker blues & greys.
Domestic F is just an updated product very similar to what the F seat on the CO 737s looks like.
Domestic F is just an updated product very similar to what the F seat on the CO 737s looks like.
Nov 8, 2014, 10:25 am
#127
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Guessing the overall cabin will look as drab as usual...no nice seat or bedding color accents like OALs do.
Domestic F is just an updated product very similar to what the F seat on the CO 737s looks like.
Nov 8, 2014, 10:27 am
#128
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Has a seat been selected?
Nov 11, 2014, 1:25 am
#130
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Can someone let them know that "BusinessFirst" is a ridiculous name and should be trashed? But knowing who's in charge, that won't happen. Same goes for having United First, but of course, with small thinking management, anything that makes them stand out is not gonna happen. Can't wait for more Walmart blues and greys.
Nov 11, 2014, 3:34 am
#131
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Can someone let them know that "BusinessFirst" is a ridiculous name and should be trashed? But knowing who's in charge, that won't happen. Same goes for having United First, but of course, with small thinking management, anything that makes them stand out is not gonna happen. Can't wait for more Walmart blues and greys.
Nov 11, 2014, 4:20 am
#132
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United Business. That's what it will be, so a little truth in advertising wouldn't hurt.
If they aren't going to be honest, call it Premier Class. Just don't call it First class, given that they have no interest in offering g a true first class product.
If they aren't going to be honest, call it Premier Class. Just don't call it First class, given that they have no interest in offering g a true first class product.
Nov 11, 2014, 6:40 am
#133
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Nov 11, 2014, 6:46 am
#135
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Connoisseur Class? Oh, wait...
I would just call it "International Business Class" and be done with it. Domestic can be either "Domestic Business Class" or "Domestic First Class". I actually don't hate the BusinessFirst and I have no issue if it stays.
