Jul 22, 2014, 1:07 pm
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See below for FAA and UA announcements on service to TLV. This is a dynamic situation and is not a specific-to-UA situation.
For this thread PLEASE only focus on the status of UA operations to TLV. And for advice to those needed to make alternative travel arrangements in the meantime.
ANYTHING, ANYTHING AT ALL, that drifts away from that or talks about larger political matters has been and will be deleted. There are other better forums for those discussions.
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LATEST UPDATE (JULY 24, 00:03 EST) - Ban lifted (reported by CNN, WSJ, Israeli Ynet and Israeli Channel 2)
See this FAA news release 23 July 2014:
http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=16734
Past history - for reference:
UPDATE - Flights from US remain canceled as NOTAM extended to 24 July 2014
http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releas...m?newsId=16714
FAA NOTAM for TLV -- 22 July, 2014
" the Federal Aviation Administration issued a NOTAM, or Notice to Airman, prohibiting U.S. airlines from flying to the Tel Aviv airport for 24 hours {Tuesday 22 July}."
Wednesday 23 July 12:45PM Eastern Update -- FAA extends TLV NOTAM for another 24 hours]
Wednesday 23 July 11:45PM Eastern Update - FAA Lifts Flight Restrictions for Ben Gurion International Airport
UA Travel Exception Policy posted 22 July 2014
Related threads (many have helpful wikis)
Travel Issues during Operation Protective Edge July 2014 (EL AL forum)
Delta (and US and UA) cancel all flights to TLV indefinitely (Delta forum)
AA TLV / Tel Aviv / Ben Gurion Travel Policy (July 2014) (American Airlines forum)
US Airways Suspends Daily Flight From US to Tel Aviv (US Airways forum)
Change fee waiver for pax to/from TLV due to recent events (Air Canada forum)
Will BA be the safe airline here too ? (Tel Aviv) (British Airways forum)
TLV flights cancelled (Lufthansa Forum)
American carriers cancel flights to TLV (Travel News)
Other non-political / non-omni FT forum links are welcomed
For this thread PLEASE only focus on the status of UA operations to TLV. And for advice to those needed to make alternative travel arrangements in the meantime.
ANYTHING, ANYTHING AT ALL, that drifts away from that or talks about larger political matters has been and will be deleted. There are other better forums for those discussions.
WineCountryUA
UA Moderator
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LATEST UPDATE (JULY 24, 00:03 EST) - Ban lifted (reported by CNN, WSJ, Israeli Ynet and Israeli Channel 2)
See this FAA news release 23 July 2014:
http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=16734
Past history - for reference:
UPDATE - Flights from US remain canceled as NOTAM extended to 24 July 2014
http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releas...m?newsId=16714
FAA NOTAM for TLV -- 22 July, 2014
Data Current as of: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 19:01:00 UTC
LLBG BEN GURION
A0679/14 NOTAMN
Q) LLLL/QPICO/I/NBO/A/000/999/3201N03453E005
A) LLBG B) 1403231219 C) PERM
E) ILS CAT ONE RWY 12 AT LLBG (TLV) IS FULLY OPR.
LLBG BEN GURION
A0679/14 NOTAMN
Q) LLLL/QPICO/I/NBO/A/000/999/3201N03453E005
A) LLBG B) 1403231219 C) PERM
E) ILS CAT ONE RWY 12 AT LLBG (TLV) IS FULLY OPR.
Wednesday 23 July 12:45PM Eastern Update -- FAA extends TLV NOTAM for another 24 hours]
Wednesday 23 July 11:45PM Eastern Update - FAA Lifts Flight Restrictions for Ben Gurion International Airport
UA Travel Exception Policy posted 22 July 2014
Israel Unrest
Airports: Tel Aviv, Israel (TLV)
Original Travel Dates: July 22, 2014 – August 15, 2014
Changing to earlier or later flights is allowed.
Final Travel must be completed by:
End of Validity of ticket (one year from date of issue) Flight Changes:
When rescheduled travel commences by August 31, 2014, change fees and fare differences will be waived.
Travel may be rescheduled in any fare class, same cabin.
For all other dates and ticket uses, the change fee will be waived, but a difference in fare may apply.
Airports: Tel Aviv, Israel (TLV)
Original Travel Dates: July 22, 2014 – August 15, 2014
Changing to earlier or later flights is allowed.
Final Travel must be completed by:
End of Validity of ticket (one year from date of issue) Flight Changes:
When rescheduled travel commences by August 31, 2014, change fees and fare differences will be waived.
Travel may be rescheduled in any fare class, same cabin.
For all other dates and ticket uses, the change fee will be waived, but a difference in fare may apply.
Travel Issues during Operation Protective Edge July 2014 (EL AL forum)
Delta (and US and UA) cancel all flights to TLV indefinitely (Delta forum)
AA TLV / Tel Aviv / Ben Gurion Travel Policy (July 2014) (American Airlines forum)
US Airways Suspends Daily Flight From US to Tel Aviv (US Airways forum)
Change fee waiver for pax to/from TLV due to recent events (Air Canada forum)
Will BA be the safe airline here too ? (Tel Aviv) (British Airways forum)
TLV flights cancelled (Lufthansa Forum)
American carriers cancel flights to TLV (Travel News)
Other non-political / non-omni FT forum links are welcomed
Jul. 2014 - UA and DL Suspend Flights to TLV - [Update] 24 JUL 2014: Flights resumed]
Jul 23, 2014, 7:41 am
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Local Media Update
Local English media quoting air officials are saying that UA and US (AA) will re-start service tomorrow
BA and CSA Czech Airlines haven't stopped according to the same official
a look at united.com shows both 84 and 90 on schedule for their Wed departures. Guess we'll have to wait a few more hours to see if they stick.
No mention of the FAA and if they will re-new or cancel their ban
BA and CSA Czech Airlines haven't stopped according to the same official
a look at united.com shows both 84 and 90 on schedule for their Wed departures. Guess we'll have to wait a few more hours to see if they stick.
No mention of the FAA and if they will re-new or cancel their ban
Jul 23, 2014, 7:58 am
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Delta and LH to continue ban on Wednesday, regardless of FAA decision later this morning. Will UA follow Delta?
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Jul 23, 2014, 8:15 am
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They wont do anything till the FAA speaks and the 24 hrs ends apx @ Noon. Once the FAA speaks then UA will huddle together and decide what it will do. I believe DL has already said they dont care what the FAA says they arent flying in
Jul 23, 2014, 8:15 am
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Jul 23, 2014, 8:29 am
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I spoke to the UA station manager in TLV. He seemed pretty confident that barring a last minute change by the FAA, flights were resume tomorrow.
He said that UA has indicated that as long as the FAA allows, they have no intent of canceling, and that he believed (based on conversations with UA,) that the FAA isn't planning on extending the ban, after consultations with the Israeli authorities.
We'll obviously see soon enough whether he's correct or not, so simply time will tell.
He said that UA has indicated that as long as the FAA allows, they have no intent of canceling, and that he believed (based on conversations with UA,) that the FAA isn't planning on extending the ban, after consultations with the Israeli authorities.
We'll obviously see soon enough whether he's correct or not, so simply time will tell.
Jul 23, 2014, 10:32 am
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I spoke to the UA station manager in TLV. He seemed pretty confident that barring a last minute change by the FAA, flights were resume tomorrow.
He said that UA has indicated that as long as the FAA allows, they have no intent of canceling, and that he believed (based on conversations with UA,) that the FAA isn't planning on extending the ban, after consultations with the Israeli authorities.
We'll obviously see soon enough whether he's correct or not, so simply time will tell.
He said that UA has indicated that as long as the FAA allows, they have no intent of canceling, and that he believed (based on conversations with UA,) that the FAA isn't planning on extending the ban, after consultations with the Israeli authorities.
We'll obviously see soon enough whether he's correct or not, so simply time will tell.
Jul 23, 2014, 10:35 am
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Jul 23, 2014, 10:40 am
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Jul 23, 2014, 10:46 am
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All three airlines - UA, DL, & US - want to operate the flights as soon as (safely/politically) possible. All enjoy that FAA is presently taking the heat from them not having to choose to fly or not. At this point, the only difference between playing it by ear and "suspending indefinitely" is PR. Does the airline wish to be seen as responsive to customer demand or cautious.
Jul 23, 2014, 10:48 am
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Confirmed...FAA announces another 24 hr ban, according to Fox News.
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Jul 23, 2014, 10:54 am
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All three airlines - UA, DL, & US - want to operate the flights as soon as (safely/politically) possible. All enjoy that FAA is presently taking the heat from them not having to choose to fly or not. At this point, the only difference between playing it by ear and "suspending indefinitely" is PR. Does the airline wish to be seen as responsive to customer demand or cautious.
Jul 23, 2014, 10:55 am
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well when DL says 'indefinitely' I highly doubt if and when the FAA removes the Ban that DL will jump back in. OK if the war is over thats something else.Im just not sure that had the FAA lifted its ban today that DL would have been back flying in the next day or 2, while mostly UA would have depending what they did with the 4 planes , not sure what US would do, I feel theyd follow UA
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