LETTERBOY

To each his own. I don't mind stops if I know they're going to happen (such as a planned connection). I don't want to deal with the possibility of an unplanned stop for fuel.

elitetraveler

It is only Westbound as far as I've seen.

In the Winter it can go 10 days without one, but then I've seen where there are 5-6 out 7 with the stop -- sometimes headwinds, but also EWR weather that comes up after departure as I understand it.

HonestABE

UA is adding CDG to the EWR lineup. I just booked award tix to CDG next May and 752s popped up first (albeit with only Standard Award availability in Y).

So, I booked Saver Awards on LH (EWR-MUC-CDG-MUC-EWR) for my wife and me. 60K miles each instead of 120K miles plus it's A346 service to and from MUC. With 2-4-2 seating (we have window/aisle both ways), we avoid the unpleasantness of disturbing an unrelated person in the aisle seat when nature calls. And free adult beverages.

The schedule also works out better - we leave EWR later in the evening, and with only a 2 HR layover in MUC, we get to CDG early afternoon rather than early morning. No worry about getting to our hotel before official check-in. On the return, we have an early afternoon departure rather than early morning.

JOSECONLSCREW28

I know the sCO 752s are flown to CDG from EWR I've worked that trip before, however I was just including the current schedule of flights. Other sCO TATL 752 flights are EWR - LHR (currently sCO 777 and sUA 3-cabin 763), EWR - TXL (currently sUA 3-cabin 763 switching back to sCO 752 next month) and EWR - AMS (currently sUA 3-cabin 763, switching back to an sCO 752 in the fall I believe)

Symmetre

I have flow TATL on 752s many times and never once had to divert for any reason. Flying TATL on the narrowbody was somewhat reminiscent of the old days of flying on a DC-8, save for better seats, better food, IFE and no clouds of cigarette smoke. Quite honestly, I don't see it as that much different from flying on a widebody ... especially if I have my nose in my laptop or am sawing logs.

Ber2dca

I can't see fuel stops being a big issue from Shannon or Dublin. I would wager that routes like Barcelona drive up the average.

Mrtrash757

The question I have is that, as the 757's age, what will come around to replace them? 787s seem too big, and there isn't anything smaller with the range on the horizon. Just wondering if there are any plans for replacement in the future also?

mduell

The next generation narrowbody famlies are widely expected to be a bit larger (737-700 through 757 sized) and include a TATL capable model, but the timeline for them to enter service is 2025-2030.

JVPhoto

Isn't TXL-EWR the furthers 757 route in terms of miles?
I would have to go back and count but I would say I've done 4-5 winter TXL-EWR flights and never had an issue.

Why someone would choose to fly non non-stop, deal with a connection, potential to miss or delay simply because on the off chance of a % of a % the plane may have to stop for a bit to top off the tanks is beyond me.

SunLover

Based on this chart the 200 nm boost the wingtips provide would not by themselves provide enough of the performance increase necessary to make the TATL 752 routes possible.

Current TATL 757 routes are:

EWR:
22/23 EWR - DUB - EWR 3,193 miles
24/25 EWR - SNN - EWR 3,096 miles
26/27 EWR - BHX - EWR 3,375 miles
36/37 EWR - EDI - EWR 3,268 miles
38/39 EWR - OSL - EWR 3,697 miles
62/63 EWR - MAD - EWR 3,607 miles
64/65 EWR - LIS - EWR 3,385 miles
68/69 EWR - ARN - EWR 3,930 miles
74/75 EWR - HAM - EWR 3,824 miles
76/77 EWR - BFS - EWR 3,257 miles
80/81 EWR - MAN - EWR 3,354 miles
108/109 EWR - EDI - EWR 3,268 miles
120/121 EWR - BCN - EWR 3,848 miles
130/131 EWR - DUB - EWR 3,193 miles
152/153 EWR - STR - EWR 3,936 miles
161/162 EWR - GLA - EWR 3,212 miles

IAD:
100/101 IAD - MAN - IAD 3,565 miles
122/123 IAD - LHR - IAD 3,677 miles
126/127 IAD - DUB - IAD 3,404 miles
163/164 IAD - MAD - IAD 3,817 miles

ORD:
66/67 ORD - SNN - ORD 3,591 miles
118/119 ORD - EDI - ORD 3,697 miles


SunLover

JOSECONLSCREW28

Yes EWR - TXL is the furthest 757 route at 3,980 miles. EWR - STR is 3,936 miles, EWR - ARN is 3,930 miles, EWR - BCN is 3,848 miles, EWR - HAM is 3,824 miles IAD - MAD is 3,817 miles.

t18c97

During July the EWR->BCN->EWR route replaced the 752 with a 763. During the month there were some delays and cancellations but no diversions. This month it's back to 752's and yesterday and today both BCN->EWR flights were diverted, yesterday BOS, today BGN.

JOSECONLSCREW28

Slight correction it was actually flown with a 764 during the month of July not a 763.

Owenc

A no the Belfast route is 3,164 miles...

And again no I don't think we've ever had a fuel stop on our route. I don't see a 757 on a 3,000 mile route to be that bad.. It is only 6/7 hours.

I am just back off a 757 and it was brilliant! We had moveable headrests, recline and even our own avod so who cares? I would only worry about this flying from Germany but from Ireland? NO - I think we could get a 737..

I don't see what the problem is. Widebodies for me are suited to routes lasting longer than 8 hours.

It depends where you fly from.

We've NEVER had a fuel stop from Ireland.

Because they have the range..

Its fantastic, a quick, affordable and hassle free way to get to NYC rather than flying BACK on ourselves through Heathrow.

I find that EWR has fantastic connection opportunities.

LETTERBOY

Just because you haven't had them doesn't mean other people haven't had them. I am unwilling to take the chance of having one.