Apr 21, 2014, 11:37 am
Last edit by: Pat89339
A number of folks with award flights booked on CA (Air China) found their reservations cancelled. The only notification of cancellation appears to be an email in from UA written in chinese. UA reps confirmed that cancellations were made online and CA award space was no longer available. UA can rebook on other flights when award space is available.
It is plausible that a third party with access to PNR and pax name on the flight can fraudulently cancel an existing itinerary and book the reopened award seat.
Affected FlyerTalk members — with links to where in this discussion they posted their experiences — include:
It is plausible that a third party with access to PNR and pax name on the flight can fraudulently cancel an existing itinerary and book the reopened award seat.
Affected FlyerTalk members — with links to where in this discussion they posted their experiences — include:
- MikeMpls
- nihaoa
- lewende Reported 4 friends with this issue
- ordbkk
- twebst
- kb1992
- litesleeper
- zombietooth
- critten Reported 2/3 confirmations (3 people CA Business class) cancelled at the same time
- skyvanman Also 1 friend with the issue
- chris1234
- atiger29
- bubble o bill
- genemk2
- jefftiger
- CuddlyFlyer
- gpeso8
- imm2b
- acf1270
- dgxoxo
- ACM two passengers
It seems everybody wants to see the message.. here was mine:
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2014年4月17日 (星期四)
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Originally Posted by ordbkk View Post
For tracking purposes, I went through the 27 pages of this thread and compiled a list of those affected:
MikeMpls
nihaoa
lewende (reported 4 friends with this issue)
ordbkk
twebst
kb1992
litesleeper
zombietooth
critten
skyvanman (also 1 friend with the issue)
jefftiger (but, happened during October 2013)
So we're at 13 people affected, although some like critten have had multiple trips canceled.
From what I understand, all of these occurred in the last 3 weeks.
For tracking purposes, I went through the 27 pages of this thread and compiled a list of those affected:
MikeMpls
nihaoa
lewende (reported 4 friends with this issue)
ordbkk
twebst
kb1992
litesleeper
zombietooth
critten
skyvanman (also 1 friend with the issue)
jefftiger (but, happened during October 2013)
So we're at 13 people affected, although some like critten have had multiple trips canceled.
From what I understand, all of these occurred in the last 3 weeks.
2014 UA Issued Awards on Air China (CA) Are Mysteriously Being Canceled (Hacked?)
Apr 12, 2014, 9:07 pm
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Apr 12, 2014, 9:18 pm
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I don't indulge in impossibilities.
How about "none"? It's not a DOT issue. It's not an FBI issue. United may have some culpability in making it so trivial, but I doubt there's anything that can be done besides not booking on United.
How about "none"? It's not a DOT issue. It's not an FBI issue. United may have some culpability in making it so trivial, but I doubt there's anything that can be done besides not booking on United.
Apr 12, 2014, 9:18 pm
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What motivation would these people have in cancelling the tickets? Cancelled award tickets do not automatically return to award inventory.
Apr 12, 2014, 9:21 pm
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Apr 12, 2014, 9:24 pm
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Could this possibly be related to "HeartBleed"?
Apr 12, 2014, 9:30 pm
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Apr 12, 2014, 9:31 pm
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Apr 12, 2014, 9:34 pm
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I'd believe it an UA IT glitch before I'd believe it's some nefarious hacking scheme.
Apr 12, 2014, 9:35 pm
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Apr 12, 2014, 9:38 pm
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And if committed by people outside the U.S., which is part of the allegation, the FBI would still have no jurisdiction. And China certainly wouldn't do anything about it because it only damages an American company and that usually gets rewarded (if not condoned or supported) rather than punished.
Apr 12, 2014, 9:49 pm
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And if committed by people outside the U.S., which is part of the allegation, the FBI would still have no jurisdiction. And China certainly wouldn't do anything about it because it only damages an American company and that usually gets rewarded (if not condoned or supported) rather than punished.
Apr 12, 2014, 9:50 pm
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I am victim 1. This is what I got from UA--"I can confirm, our system indicates someone logged in as a guest, canceled XXXXXX at 10:42pm and then canceled XXXXXX at 10:50pm".
Apr 12, 2014, 10:00 pm
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If UA cares about this, they could contact the 3 alleged victims directly, and verify with each of them that they did not cancel the tickets. They can also look through their server logs to see if there is any commonality between where the cancellation requests are coming from (e.g. all from China, or all from the same VPN service to mask the actual location). If the alleged happenings actually happened, UA could be fairly certain of it by doing the above, without relying on just the word of the OP.