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A number of folks with award flights booked on CA (Air China) found their reservations cancelled. The only notification of cancellation appears to be an email in from UA written in chinese. UA reps confirmed that cancellations were made online and CA award space was no longer available. UA can rebook on other flights when award space is available.
It is plausible that a third party with access to PNR and pax name on the flight can fraudulently cancel an existing itinerary and book the reopened award seat.
Affected FlyerTalk members — with links to where in this discussion they posted their experiences — include:
It is plausible that a third party with access to PNR and pax name on the flight can fraudulently cancel an existing itinerary and book the reopened award seat.
Affected FlyerTalk members — with links to where in this discussion they posted their experiences — include:
- MikeMpls
- nihaoa
- lewende Reported 4 friends with this issue
- ordbkk
- twebst
- kb1992
- litesleeper
- zombietooth
- critten Reported 2/3 confirmations (3 people CA Business class) cancelled at the same time
- skyvanman Also 1 friend with the issue
- chris1234
- atiger29
- bubble o bill
- genemk2
- jefftiger
- CuddlyFlyer
- gpeso8
- imm2b
- acf1270
- dgxoxo
- ACM two passengers
It seems everybody wants to see the message.. here was mine:
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Originally Posted by ordbkk View Post
For tracking purposes, I went through the 27 pages of this thread and compiled a list of those affected:
MikeMpls
nihaoa
lewende (reported 4 friends with this issue)
ordbkk
twebst
kb1992
litesleeper
zombietooth
critten
skyvanman (also 1 friend with the issue)
jefftiger (but, happened during October 2013)
So we're at 13 people affected, although some like critten have had multiple trips canceled.
From what I understand, all of these occurred in the last 3 weeks.
For tracking purposes, I went through the 27 pages of this thread and compiled a list of those affected:
MikeMpls
nihaoa
lewende (reported 4 friends with this issue)
ordbkk
twebst
kb1992
litesleeper
zombietooth
critten
skyvanman (also 1 friend with the issue)
jefftiger (but, happened during October 2013)
So we're at 13 people affected, although some like critten have had multiple trips canceled.
From what I understand, all of these occurred in the last 3 weeks.
2014 UA Issued Awards on Air China (CA) Are Mysteriously Being Canceled (Hacked?)
#256
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Add me to the list
You can add me to the list of victims. Until I came across this thread I thought I was the only one. I had a trip to the Philippines that included Air China on the return. I received that same Chinese email confirming my cancellation, which of course I didn't do. I called UA right away, but they weren't able to do anything for me. the agent was very kind, and she looked for different options, but said no availability for reward travel anymore. She added that the cancellation came via the website, from the same place I booked the trip (my office). I paid the $200 to recredit the miles. I have asked United to waive the $200 but I'm not optimistic. I know I'm completely not understanding of human behavior, but why do some people have to mess with others' accounts? I just don't get it. sigh.
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#259
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You can add me to the list of victims. Until I came across this thread I thought I was the only one. I had a trip to the Philippines that included Air China on the return. I received that same Chinese email confirming my cancellation, which of course I didn't do. I called UA right away, but they weren't able to do anything for me. the agent was very kind, and she looked for different options, but said no availability for reward travel anymore. She added that the cancellation came via the website, from the same place I booked the trip (my office). I paid the $200 to recredit the miles. I have asked United to waive the $200 but I'm not optimistic. I know I'm completely not understanding of human behavior, but why do some people have to mess with others' accounts? I just don't get it. sigh.
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Yes and no. Obviously it's not worth his time to go to court over $200. UA knows this, it's not much of a threat, either. If necessary, complaining to regulators is more likely to accomplish something useful.
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$200 on top of thousands of dollars to purchase a paid ticket to replace the award ticket? That's absolutely worth it! If the ticket doesn't touch US soil the DOT won't do anything, so many tickets won't qualify
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Many tickets actually qualify because they all have a CA TPAC segment ending in or starting from the US.
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Call UA again, ask them to make your reservation non cancellable. Direct them to this thread (they are aware) and express your concern. They can come up (hopefully) with some kind of block..
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At this point, calling out United on Twitter/Facebook is probably in order in the hopes that the media picks up on this major IT/security issue. Sadly, unless a company gets publicly shamed in front of millions of people, they just don't want to help. Sad, but that's exactly the case with this airline that is currently swirling around the toilet bowl.
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I think an email to Jeff with a link to this thread might be in order.
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I think your chance of winning such a remedy in small-claims court is low. Buying a replacement ticket in hopes of winning a lawsuit months later would be pretty speculative. If you were so committed to going that you were willing to pay out of pocket either way, then after doing that filing a lawsuit could make more sense. But then you might end up over the filing limits for small-claims, anyway.
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We have since explained the United snafu to our employers and worked out the extra day off, and that's when I sat down to examine the impact to our itinerary and noticed we'd need to extend our hotel reservation and run afoul of the TWOV limit.
This has been a very frustrating aspect of the whole thing: United has been unwilling to restore our reservation if it could not be done as a saver award. There are revenue seats on our original flights, and other flights that we find satisfactory, but we were told the single United flight is our only choice despite how much it conflicts with our plans.
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At this point, calling out United on Twitter/Facebook is probably in order in the hopes that the media picks up on this major IT/security issue. Sadly, unless a company gets publicly shamed in front of millions of people, they just don't want to help. Sad, but that's exactly the case with this airline that is currently swirling around the toilet bowl.
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It's pretty surprising to me. I can understand that UA might not be able to get CA to give them seats, but they should do more to accommodate you on UA metal where there are empty seats. I agree with trying to make a fuss on social media; also, I would consider trying to get a story in the press. Seems like there could be a major news story on this, if it's a trend and not just a one-off. I don't personally know the reporters who cover travel for the major papers, but surely someone at FT does? It's not impossible that you could get somewhere just by calling the NY Times and asking to speak to their reporter who covers the airline industry.
How far off is your trip? A few days? A few weeks?
How far off is your trip? A few days? A few weeks?