Nov 1, 2013, 4:08 am
Last edit by: aacharya
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New UA Award/Upgrade Chart (vs. Current Chart)
Changes took effect for travel booked starting February 3, 2014. See UA Insider's post linked here for more info about the date change. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22263212-post2366.html
Awards with *A partners now cost more than similar awards flown only on UA metal.
See below for the round-trip increases on partner metal :
Changes to upgrade policy for intra-Asia and northern South America flights
Questions and Answers
Q: If I book an award in January 2014 and then make changes in February or beyond (in routing, airline, origin, destination, etc), will it be repriced according to new mileage requirements, or will I keep the old pricing on that ticket?
Additional details on changing tickets booked prior to 2/3/14 per UA Insider:
Full details are in post #2588 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22283437-post2588.html
Q: Do these rates apply for tickets purchased after Feb 3 or for travel after Feb 3? That is,if one purchases a ticket now, to fly on Mar 15, will that be new or old pricing?
Q: How will award pricing apply to mixed-carrier Saver Awards?
(reverted to J.Edward's rev)
New UA Award/Upgrade Chart (vs. Current Chart)
Changes took effect for travel booked starting February 3, 2014. See UA Insider's post linked here for more info about the date change. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22263212-post2366.html
Awards with *A partners now cost more than similar awards flown only on UA metal.
- F awards on partners went up 40-80%
- J awards on partners went up 20-40%
- F and J awards on UA metal (or mixed carriers where UA metal is in premium cabin followed by partner segment in lower class) as well some Y awards increased by 5-20% (US to Europe in F up 19%, US to Middle East in F up 20% for example)
See below for the round-trip increases on partner metal :
US ✈ Southern South America: +10,000 J, +5,000 F
US ✈ Europe: +40,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Northern/Central/Southern Africa: +40,000 J, +110,000 F
US ✈ Middle East: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +130,000 F
US ✈ Central Asia/India: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ South Asia: +15,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ North Asia: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +100,000 F
US ✈ Japan: +5,000 Y, +30,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Oceania: +30,000 J, +70,000 F
US ✈ Australia/New Zealand: +25,000 J, +100,000 F
RTW: +20,000 Y, +90,000 J, +100,000 F
US ✈ Europe: +40,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Northern/Central/Southern Africa: +40,000 J, +110,000 F
US ✈ Middle East: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +130,000 F
US ✈ Central Asia/India: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ South Asia: +15,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ North Asia: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +100,000 F
US ✈ Japan: +5,000 Y, +30,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Oceania: +30,000 J, +70,000 F
US ✈ Australia/New Zealand: +25,000 J, +100,000 F
RTW: +20,000 Y, +90,000 J, +100,000 F
Changes to upgrade policy for intra-Asia and northern South America flights
- Complimentary Premier Upgrades and instant upgrades are not applicable
- Regional Premier Upgrades (for any fare class) and Global Premier Upgrades (for flights booked in fare class Z, P, S, T, L, K, G or N) can no longer be requested on or after November 1, 2013
- There is no co-pay exemption for MileagePlus Upgrade Awards requested on or after November 1, 2013
- The above changes do not apply to Copa-operated flights.
Questions and Answers
Q: If I book an award in January 2014 and then make changes in February or beyond (in routing, airline, origin, destination, etc), will it be repriced according to new mileage requirements, or will I keep the old pricing on that ticket?
Our existing change process will apply. Changes to awards that require a change in date do not result in a change to the award price. Any other change will require an add/collect in miles and fees for changes or cancellations will still apply as per our existing policies.
Changes that will not trigger a re-price for itineraries ticketed before February 3, 2014 include:
- Date/time (cabin, region, and award type can't change)
- Carrier on one or more segments (cabin, region, and award type can’t change)
- Origin/Destination within the same regions (carrier and cabin can’t change)
Q: Do these rates apply for tickets purchased after Feb 3 or for travel after Feb 3? That is,if one purchases a ticket now, to fly on Mar 15, will that be new or old pricing?
Updated handling for mixed UA-Partner United/partner award itineraries: As we shared with the initial announcement, the Star Alliance/Partner partner award pricing will apply to Business or First awards for itineraries that include at least one flight segment operated by a MileagePlus partner carrier in Business or First.
However, as a customer benefit we have made an exception for most itineraries which require connecting onto a MileagePlus/Star partner in First or Business for a short distance. Specifically, if a United/Copa award itinerary contains a connecting segment on a MileagePlus/Star partner that is wholly within one MileagePlus award region, then the United award price will apply.
However, as a customer benefit we have made an exception for most itineraries which require connecting onto a MileagePlus/Star partner in First or Business for a short distance. Specifically, if a United/Copa award itinerary contains a connecting segment on a MileagePlus/Star partner that is wholly within one MileagePlus award region, then the United award price will apply.
- For example: IAD-FRA in United BusinessFirst connecting to FRA-FCO in Lufthansa Business, will be priced at the United mileage award amount.
- Note that this exception will not apply to a few specific regions and routings, such as intra-Africa connecting segments and certain fifth-freedom routes (e.g. BKK-KUL operated by Lufthansa)
Changes to MileagePlus Award and Upgrade Policies - Eff. 3-Feb-2014
Nov 1, 2013, 12:58 am
#47
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So what are the odds we see little or no new post Feb. 1, 2014 award inventory before the new redemption levels kick in?
Nov 1, 2013, 12:58 am
#48
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This only changes when people like us, who chase after miles and status, become kayak shoppers and only book the best possible itinerary for our travel needs regardless of airline. Until then people like Aaron have us over a barrel because really, where are you going to go?
Nov 1, 2013, 1:01 am
#49
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SMI/J "Changes you will like."
No we don't like, so why say that at the start of the safety video for years?
No we don't like, so why say that at the start of the safety video for years?
Nov 1, 2013, 1:02 am
#50
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I just wonder if UA now allows me to fly UA metal FRA-SFO-NRT to get the lower UA redemption levels.
From europe there is hardly any way around flying star alliance to two thirds of the world.
From europe there is hardly any way around flying star alliance to two thirds of the world.
Nov 1, 2013, 1:03 am
#51
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Location: SFO
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Ouch ouch ouch!!
70K to 130K for a one way *A US-South Asia (86% increase)
17.5k to 30K for a one way *A South Asia to South Asia (71% increase)
I am speechless.
What is the point of having the Alliance when we get penalized trying to go somewhere United can't get us???
Flyer Friendly? I think not.
70K to 130K for a one way *A US-South Asia (86% increase)
17.5k to 30K for a one way *A South Asia to South Asia (71% increase)
I am speechless.
What is the point of having the Alliance when we get penalized trying to go somewhere United can't get us???
Flyer Friendly? I think not.
Nov 1, 2013, 1:04 am
#52
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You can't even get status on Avianca unless you fly a certain amount of miles/segments with them.
Also, LifeMiles are too cheap to buy. It makes zero sense to collect there.
Do Singapore Airlines and fly Suites.
Nov 1, 2013, 1:04 am
#53
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Can't believe how few posts there are.
Worst devaluation I've ever seen.
Glad I redeemed four one ways on LH F TATLs this year. Doubt I will ever see the inside of an LH F cabin again. A very sad day.
Worst devaluation I've ever seen.
Glad I redeemed four one ways on LH F TATLs this year. Doubt I will ever see the inside of an LH F cabin again. A very sad day.
Last edited by mre5765; Nov 1, 2013 at 1:13 am
Nov 1, 2013, 1:05 am
#54
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Or Aegean and get domestic lounge access and a semi-decent-ish award chart.
Last edited by iluv2fly; Nov 1, 2013 at 4:20 am Reason: merge
Nov 1, 2013, 1:05 am
#55
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This explains the 4 segment limits to Asia... they didn't want us burning our miles in an enjoyable fashion.
Nov 1, 2013, 1:07 am
#57
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Talk about pulling the rug out from under us. Ridiculous.
This move, when taken in consideration with the cuts to RDMs, marks the end of an epoch. It's like comet impact destructive.
Nov 1, 2013, 1:12 am
#58
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Overall this is horrible but there is a little goodness
My most common award is F New Zealand-Europe going from 90 to 115
I currently have an F NZ-India award which will go from 60 to 110
But I also do awards to South Asia which in F has gone down from 60 to 40 and in C from 45 to 30
Jeff
My most common award is F New Zealand-Europe going from 90 to 115
I currently have an F NZ-India award which will go from 60 to 110
But I also do awards to South Asia which in F has gone down from 60 to 40 and in C from 45 to 30
Jeff
Nov 1, 2013, 1:13 am
#59
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Posts: 469
This only changes when people like us, who chase after miles and status, become kayak shoppers and only book the best possible itinerary for our travel needs regardless of airline. Until then people like Aaron have us over a barrel because really, where are you going to go?
Or maybe travelers who don't have to travel (like leisure travelers) could just stop traveling.
Nov 1, 2013, 1:15 am
#60
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Wow... "Flyer Friendly"... the marketing department really missed the mark on that one.
Then again, UA in general has missed the mark on a lot of things nowadays.
How they could associate "Friendly" in any capacity for marketing is laughable.
Then again, UA in general has missed the mark on a lot of things nowadays.
How they could associate "Friendly" in any capacity for marketing is laughable.