Nov 1, 13, 5:08 am
Last edit by: aacharya
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New UA Award/Upgrade Chart (vs. Current Chart)
Changes took effect for travel booked starting February 3, 2014. See UA Insider's post linked here for more info about the date change. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22263212-post2366.html
Awards with *A partners now cost more than similar awards flown only on UA metal.
See below for the round-trip increases on partner metal :
Changes to upgrade policy for intra-Asia and northern South America flights
Questions and Answers
Q: If I book an award in January 2014 and then make changes in February or beyond (in routing, airline, origin, destination, etc), will it be repriced according to new mileage requirements, or will I keep the old pricing on that ticket?
Additional details on changing tickets booked prior to 2/3/14 per UA Insider:
Full details are in post #2588 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22283437-post2588.html
Q: Do these rates apply for tickets purchased after Feb 3 or for travel after Feb 3? That is,if one purchases a ticket now, to fly on Mar 15, will that be new or old pricing?
Q: How will award pricing apply to mixed-carrier Saver Awards?
(reverted to J.Edward's rev)
New UA Award/Upgrade Chart (vs. Current Chart)
Changes took effect for travel booked starting February 3, 2014. See UA Insider's post linked here for more info about the date change. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22263212-post2366.html
Awards with *A partners now cost more than similar awards flown only on UA metal.
- F awards on partners went up 40-80%
- J awards on partners went up 20-40%
- F and J awards on UA metal (or mixed carriers where UA metal is in premium cabin followed by partner segment in lower class) as well some Y awards increased by 5-20% (US to Europe in F up 19%, US to Middle East in F up 20% for example)
See below for the round-trip increases on partner metal :
US ✈ Southern South America: +10,000 J, +5,000 F
US ✈ Europe: +40,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Northern/Central/Southern Africa: +40,000 J, +110,000 F
US ✈ Middle East: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +130,000 F
US ✈ Central Asia/India: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ South Asia: +15,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ North Asia: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +100,000 F
US ✈ Japan: +5,000 Y, +30,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Oceania: +30,000 J, +70,000 F
US ✈ Australia/New Zealand: +25,000 J, +100,000 F
RTW: +20,000 Y, +90,000 J, +100,000 F
US ✈ Europe: +40,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Northern/Central/Southern Africa: +40,000 J, +110,000 F
US ✈ Middle East: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +130,000 F
US ✈ Central Asia/India: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ South Asia: +15,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ North Asia: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +100,000 F
US ✈ Japan: +5,000 Y, +30,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Oceania: +30,000 J, +70,000 F
US ✈ Australia/New Zealand: +25,000 J, +100,000 F
RTW: +20,000 Y, +90,000 J, +100,000 F
Changes to upgrade policy for intra-Asia and northern South America flights
- Complimentary Premier Upgrades and instant upgrades are not applicable
- Regional Premier Upgrades (for any fare class) and Global Premier Upgrades (for flights booked in fare class Z, P, S, T, L, K, G or N) can no longer be requested on or after November 1, 2013
- There is no co-pay exemption for MileagePlus Upgrade Awards requested on or after November 1, 2013
- The above changes do not apply to Copa-operated flights.
Questions and Answers
Q: If I book an award in January 2014 and then make changes in February or beyond (in routing, airline, origin, destination, etc), will it be repriced according to new mileage requirements, or will I keep the old pricing on that ticket?
Originally Posted by UA Insider
Our existing change process will apply. Changes to awards that require a change in date do not result in a change to the award price. Any other change will require an add/collect in miles and fees for changes or cancellations will still apply as per our existing policies.
Originally Posted by UA Insider
Changes that will not trigger a re-price for itineraries ticketed before February 3, 2014 include:
- Date/time (cabin, region, and award type can't change)
- Carrier on one or more segments (cabin, region, and award type can’t change)
- Origin/Destination within the same regions (carrier and cabin can’t change)
Q: Do these rates apply for tickets purchased after Feb 3 or for travel after Feb 3? That is,if one purchases a ticket now, to fly on Mar 15, will that be new or old pricing?
Originally Posted by UA Insider
The new award pricing takes effect for bookings made on or after Feb 3, 2014 for all future travel dates. If you purchased a ticket prior to then for travel on March 15, and no changes are made to the itinerary, the current pricing will apply.
Originally Posted by UA Insider
Updated handling for mixed UA-Partner United/partner award itineraries: As we shared with the initial announcement, the Star Alliance/Partner partner award pricing will apply to Business or First awards for itineraries that include at least one flight segment operated by a MileagePlus partner carrier in Business or First.
However, as a customer benefit we have made an exception for most itineraries which require connecting onto a MileagePlus/Star partner in First or Business for a short distance. Specifically, if a United/Copa award itinerary contains a connecting segment on a MileagePlus/Star partner that is wholly within one MileagePlus award region, then the United award price will apply.
However, as a customer benefit we have made an exception for most itineraries which require connecting onto a MileagePlus/Star partner in First or Business for a short distance. Specifically, if a United/Copa award itinerary contains a connecting segment on a MileagePlus/Star partner that is wholly within one MileagePlus award region, then the United award price will apply.
- For example: IAD-FRA in United BusinessFirst connecting to FRA-FCO in Lufthansa Business, will be priced at the United mileage award amount.
- Note that this exception will not apply to a few specific regions and routings, such as intra-Africa connecting segments and certain fifth-freedom routes (e.g. BKK-KUL operated by Lufthansa)
Changes to MileagePlus Award and Upgrade Policies - Eff. 3-Feb-2014
Nov 1, 13, 2:16 am
#61
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Originally Posted by belfordrocks
Or Aegean and get domestic lounge access and a semi-decent-ish award chart.
The problem is that I value the UC at about $3 per visit at this point and the US Club at about $5.
So domestic lounges are more or less worthless.
(In comparison I would probably pay about $100 to enter the BA Concorde Room in JFK and the Qantas SYD F lounge and $150-200 for the LH First Class terminal.
Nov 1, 13, 2:17 am
#62
Join Date: May 2004
Location: OAK
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Posts: 2,504
This airline is a joke. After I use up my remaining miles/upgrades, I will be leaving United. After almost 1 million revenue miles with United, I'm no longer convinced that it is even worth doing the the last few miles to make it over the line to MM status.
Nov 1, 13, 2:18 am
#63
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 6,360
At the end of the day, United will say "these changes do not affect 95% of all redemptions redeemed" and they will pull an Aeroplan. And because DL has already devalued and now it's almost certain that AA/US will do so too after they merge, they will only be generating a bit of hate.
Honestly I do think they'd devalue because first of all DL did and UA loves copyiing them, and also I highly doubt that Chase is making money from the cardholders who do 2 ink and csp and have 140k with 15k spend or whatever and no fees....
Honestly I do think they'd devalue because first of all DL did and UA loves copyiing them, and also I highly doubt that Chase is making money from the cardholders who do 2 ink and csp and have 140k with 15k spend or whatever and no fees....
Nov 1, 13, 2:21 am
#64
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Originally Posted by yerffej201
At the end of the day, United will say "these changes do not affect 95% of all redemptions redeemed" and they will pull an Aeroplan. And because DL has already devalued and now it's almost certain that AA/US will do so too after they merge, they will only be generating a bit of hate.
Honestly I do think they'd devalue because first of all DL did and UA loves copyiing them, and also I highly doubt that Chase is making money from the cardholders who do 2 ink and csp and have 140k with 15k spend or whatever and no fees....
Honestly I do think they'd devalue because first of all DL did and UA loves copyiing them, and also I highly doubt that Chase is making money from the cardholders who do 2 ink and csp and have 140k with 15k spend or whatever and no fees....
With United......
Nov 1, 13, 2:24 am
#65
Join Date: Jul 2012
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Posts: 510
Just when I move to Tokyo because it was *A friendly....thanks United.
Nov 1, 13, 2:25 am
#66
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Changes to MileagePlus Award and Upgrade Policies - Eff. Feb. 2014
65k USA-SIN now 80k in Y. Terrible. At least the same 80k to fly *A also, unlike the F and C awards which punish for not selecting UA. Even though UA doesn't offer GF on many routes to S Asia.
Nov 1, 13, 2:25 am
#67
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Where is the old chart on the United site? I have a local copy on my Mac ... what's a good place to host a PDF?
Nov 1, 13, 2:29 am
#68
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Originally Posted by amolkold
Where is the old chart on the United site? I have a local copy on my Mac ... what's a good place to host a PDF?
For hosting, save it as a jpeg and use photobucket (or any other hosting site).
Nov 1, 13, 2:29 am
#69
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 6,360
Originally Posted by pigx5
However, DL still give it's gold/platinum 100% bonus.
With United......
With United......
Originally Posted by amolkold
Where is the old chart on the United site? I have a local copy on my Mac ... what's a good place to host a PDF?
http://www.united.com/web/en-us/cont...2012-03-03.pdf
Nov 1, 13, 2:29 am
#70
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Got to hand it $mi/J: instead of putting a competitive product in UA's own premium cabin, he chose to discourage redemption on partners by levying a king's ransom of a penalty. What a seminal strategy to run a successful business, and A CHANGE I FRIGGIN' LOVE!
Nov 1, 13, 2:30 am
#71
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Denver
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Posts: 56
These changes are unbelievable, after all the damage they did after the merger to their loyal fliers.
Nov 1, 13, 2:32 am
#72
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Originally Posted by unavaca
Removing intra-Asia CPUs just puts us back to the PMUA days where you needed W+ and a SWU.
I would gladly trade no more CPU/RPU usage outside of the US (PMUA policy) in return for PMUA's award chart.
MP and E+ are the only value props for the airline. One is now thoroughly butchered (all but the award chart was decimated, now the award chart is as well).
There is still E+.
Last edited by iluv2fly; Nov 1, 13 at 5:21 am Reason: merge
Nov 1, 13, 2:32 am
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Originally Posted by belfordrocks
Or Aegean and get domestic lounge access and a semi-decent-ish award chart.
Nov 1, 13, 2:40 am
#74
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer
MP and E+ are the only value props for the airline. One is now thoroughly butchered (all but the award chart was decimated, now the award chart is as well).
There is still E+.
There is still E+.
Nov 1, 13, 2:41 am
#75
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer
MP and E+ are the only value props for the airline. One is now thoroughly butchered (all but the award chart was decimated, now the award chart is as well).
There is still E+.
There is still E+.
