Jun 18, 2013, 7:18 am
Last edit by: iluv2fly
Please read these sources before posting in this thread:If you have calculated the PQDs for a trip at less than 80% of the total cost, you are very likely doing something wrong. Have you made sure to include the International Surcharge (YQ)? Have you read all of the materials linked above, and the frequently made points listed below?
Specific Unanswered Questions
Please limit these to specific, technical questions about the implementation of the PQD program.FMP (Frequently Made Points)
The following points have been made repeatedly in this thread (please feel free to add more concise points):Related Threads
Moderator's Note:- First post from UA Insider (post 1)
- http://www.mileageplusupdates.com/faqs.html
- Additional answers from UA Insider (post 1387)
- more information about questions posed in this thread published to mileageplusupdates.com, per UA Insider
Specific Unanswered Questions
Please limit these to specific, technical questions about the implementation of the PQD program.
- Will there be a calculator that shows PQD, and will that calculator be accurate?
- What exactly will count toward PQD?
United states:
Base fare and carrier-imposed surcharges
Flights flown by United, United Express, or Copa Airlines
Flights operated by a Star Alliance® or a MileagePlus partner airline and issued on a United ticket (ticket number starting with 016)
Economy Plus purchases
will count towards PQD.
Thus:
- The amount of co-pay when using miles to upgrade..
- The cost of PQMs/RDMs purchased when using the premier / award accelerator..
- The value of ETCs (or is it considered a discount from the fare?). (still uncertainty on this since prelim PQDs appeared to include) -Note: the Mileage plus site indicates ETC's count towards PQD (12/16/13 imgonnafly)
- The face value e-certs and travel vouchers.. (still uncertainty on this since prelim PQDs appeared to include)
- The cost of a paid upgrade..
- An extra seat purchase (such as for a customer of size or a musical instrument); it does not presently count toward PQM.
- Change fees.
- How will PQD be determined for UA metal segments without 016 stock ticket?
- What happens if I depart in December and return in January?
Just like PQM, PQD for the applicable part of fare for the segment is credited based on the departure date (year) of the segment flown. Segment fares are calculated using standard rules of the past. For the case cited there would be PQD credited in DEC 2013 (no value) and PQD applied to 2014 applicable to 2014 and 2015 status renewal. - How will UA evaluate the address issue for the PQD exemption?
- It is not clear how the timing of achieving the minimum PQD requirement will impact earning RPUs and GPUs. Examples:
- If someone crosses 75K PQM in say April, but doesn't hit $7500 PQD until December by which time has accrued 200K PQM, will he/she get 10 RPUs all at once? (and 10 GPUs assuming $10k PQD in December)
- Do only 1Ks/GSs earn additional RPUs by flying beyond the 100k mark?
- If a 1K crosses the 100,000 PQM mark in January 201x, the $10,000 PQD mark on December 31 201x, and ends up flying a total of 200,000 PQMs for the year 201x, how many RPUs / GPUs will be earned?
- Will Platinums earn 2 RPUs when crossing the 75k mark but none at incremental levels thereafter (e.g. a Plat who flies 100k EQMs, but does not meet the 1K spend, would *not* earn two more RPUs)?
- If someone crosses 75K PQM in say April, but doesn't hit $7500 PQD until December by which time has accrued 200K PQM, will he/she get 10 RPUs all at once? (and 10 GPUs assuming $10k PQD in December)
- How does IRROPs affect earning of PQDs?
The following points have been made repeatedly in this thread (please feel free to add more concise points):
- You might not be hitting the PQD minimums as easily as you think you are, given exceptions, taxes, and the existence of cheap fares.
- It is possible for leisure travelers and even some business travelers to average well under 10cpm. This doesn't just affect "leisure 1Ks" and people on the edge of categories.
- Presidential Plus card members (exempted from Silver/Gold/Plat PQD requirements) are most likely exempted because the FlexPQM program would complicate matters.
- Manufacturing $25,000 spend might not actually be so hard. There's a whole forum on it.
- The exceptions don't really make sense where there is a revenue-sharing joint venture in place, such as with LH on TATL routes.
- Leaving UA for AA over objections to dollar-based status may be futile because all the majors will likely go to this model with the possible exception of the AS program which allows you to bank your DL and AA miles into one account (DL has already).
- UA is tracking spend on UA metal now.
- YQ, also known as the "international surcharge," is a carrier-imposed surcharge and is included in PQD.
2014 version of this thread can be found here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1536552-mileageplus-premier-qualifying-dollar-pqd-requirement-discussion-thread-2014-a-15.html
iluv2fly
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MileagePlus Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) Requirement Discussion [ARCHIVE]
Dec 19, 2013, 12:45 am
#3991
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Dec 19, 2013, 1:18 pm
#3992
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Will an E+ subscription count toward PQD?
Dec 19, 2013, 1:33 pm
#3993
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 5,814
It is listed in the FAQs on the site:
http://www.mileageplusupdates.com/
http://www.mileageplusupdates.com/
What Economy Plus purchases earn PQD?
You will earn PQD for Economy Plus purchases, whether a one-time purchase or a subscription.
PQD from one-time Economy Plus purchases credit to the member who travels in Economy Plus seating. PQD from Economy Plus subscriptions credit to the holder of the subscription.
You will earn PQD for Economy Plus purchases, whether a one-time purchase or a subscription.
PQD from one-time Economy Plus purchases credit to the member who travels in Economy Plus seating. PQD from Economy Plus subscriptions credit to the holder of the subscription.
Dec 19, 2013, 4:07 pm
#3994
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It is listed in the FAQs on the site:
http://www.mileageplusupdates.com/
http://www.mileageplusupdates.com/
Dec 20, 2013, 11:37 am
#3995
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: SFO
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PDQ question
This may be a dumb question but if you book flights today for 2014 travel, will the money spent be applied to the new 2014 PDQ requirement? Thanks
Dec 20, 2013, 11:50 am
#3996
Join Date: Jan 2012
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The $ post when you take the flight.
You should check out this post it has a lot of information: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ation-pqd.html
You should check out this post it has a lot of information: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ation-pqd.html
Dec 20, 2013, 11:55 am
#3997
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that's what i figured. thanks for the link
Dec 22, 2013, 2:45 pm
#3998
Join Date: Feb 2013
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The $ post when you take the flight.
You should check out this post it has a lot of information: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ation-pqd.html
You should check out this post it has a lot of information: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ation-pqd.html
(1)
If I buy a ticket on ANA's website for a LAX-NRT fight with ANA flight number and operated by ANA metal, I get zero UA PDQ miles?
(2)
is it too late to move my MileagePlus address to my foreign address? I own the apartment there and have government-issued ID with that foreign address.
(3)
how will this affect the number of miles needed for redeeming miles for free flights? can I still book awards flights that originate from the US?
Thansk!
Dec 22, 2013, 2:58 pm
#3999
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if you get audited (probably doubtful) that could make it harder to support the non-domestic address. But otherwise, should be no change in award booking ability.
Dec 22, 2013, 3:05 pm
#4000
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Lifetime 1K, AA EXP, VS Silver, HY Diamond, HI Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 339
Am I understanding this correctly?
(1)
If I buy a ticket on ANA's website for a LAX-NRT fight with ANA flight number and operated by ANA metal, I get zero UA PDQ miles?
(2)
is it too late to move my MileagePlus address to my foreign address? I own the apartment there and have government-issued ID with that foreign address.
(3)
how will this affect the number of miles needed for redeeming miles for free flights? can I still book awards flights that originate from the US?
Thansk!
(1)
If I buy a ticket on ANA's website for a LAX-NRT fight with ANA flight number and operated by ANA metal, I get zero UA PDQ miles?
(2)
is it too late to move my MileagePlus address to my foreign address? I own the apartment there and have government-issued ID with that foreign address.
(3)
how will this affect the number of miles needed for redeeming miles for free flights? can I still book awards flights that originate from the US?
Thansk!
(2) If you have a legitimate non-U.S. based address, then it absolutely behooves you to change your official MileagePlus address to that non-U.S. address. It is NOT too late to do so.
(1) If you follow the suggestion above, then your first question becomes moot, as PQDs will not apply to you. HOWEVER, should you for whatever reason decide to keep your MileagePlus address U.S.-based, then for your suggested ticket purchase you would NOT EARN ANY PQDs for that purchase. The only way to earn PQDs is by flying UA/UAX/CM metal, OR flying a MileagePlus partner ticketed on 016 ticket stock (NOTE: just because you would earn PQDs on 016 ticket stock for non-UA/UAX/CM operated flights, does not mean you would earn RDMs or PQMs if you are purchasing a booking class that does not qualify for mileage earning - these are edge cases, but very real possibilities)
(3) Your PQD earnings are independent of award redemptions. Of course, mileage redemptions will cost more for many awards beginning 01FEB2014. You may still book flights originating in the U.S.
Dec 22, 2013, 3:30 pm
#4001
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 64
is the foreign address exclusion simply a stay of execution?
how like is it that UA will make PDQ requirement worldwide for 2015 or later?
I am concerned because 100% of my Elite-qualifying miles credited to my UA account are on ANA, Lufthansa, and Singapore. In fact, I have not flown on any paid UA flight for a long time.
Dec 22, 2013, 3:43 pm
#4002
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Dec 22, 2013, 3:48 pm
#4003
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NorCal
Programs: MP Ag, former 1K
Posts: 479
is the foreign address exclusion simply a stay of execution?
how like is it that UA will make PDQ requirement worldwide for 2015 or later?
I am concerned because 100% of my Elite-qualifying miles credited to my UA account are on ANA, Lufthansa, and Singapore. In fact, I have not flown on any paid UA flight for a long time.
how like is it that UA will make PDQ requirement worldwide for 2015 or later?
I am concerned because 100% of my Elite-qualifying miles credited to my UA account are on ANA, Lufthansa, and Singapore. In fact, I have not flown on any paid UA flight for a long time.
Last edited by davewang202; Dec 22, 2013 at 3:55 pm Reason: added more info
Dec 22, 2013, 3:54 pm
#4004
Join Date: Jun 2008
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is the foreign address exclusion simply a stay of execution?
how like is it that UA will make PDQ requirement worldwide for 2015 or later?
I am concerned because 100% of my Elite-qualifying miles credited to my UA account are on ANA, Lufthansa, and Singapore. In fact, I have not flown on any paid UA flight for a long time.
how like is it that UA will make PDQ requirement worldwide for 2015 or later?
I am concerned because 100% of my Elite-qualifying miles credited to my UA account are on ANA, Lufthansa, and Singapore. In fact, I have not flown on any paid UA flight for a long time.
Since March 2012, it has been stated that in order to qualify for any Premier Elite level, one must have at least four (4) paid flown segments per year on UA/UAX/CM.
Regardless of where you may now be or will soon be domiciled, the four-segment rule applies.
Regarding PQDs going worldwide, who knows what the future holds, but since the likely percentage of non-U.S. based travelers belonging to MileagePlus is much smaller than U.S.-based members, IMHO, I don't think this is a main concern. My main concern would be of the ongoing devaluation variety, much like what is happening 01FEB2014.
Dec 22, 2013, 4:02 pm
#4005
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 64
The part I highlighted in your post, above, confuses me.
Since March 2012, it has been stated that in order to qualify for any Premier Elite level, one must have at least four (4) paid flown segments per year on UA/UAX/CM.
Regardless of where you may now be or will soon be domiciled, the four-segment rule applies.
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Since March 2012, it has been stated that in order to qualify for any Premier Elite level, one must have at least four (4) paid flown segments per year on UA/UAX/CM.
Regardless of where you may now be or will soon be domiciled, the four-segment rule applies.
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