UA-NYC

Based on the negative experiences so far, that doesn't speak well to the "cushion" upgrade

Sulley

Well, enjoy them on your AA Airbii

Air France is also going to be deploying them on their long haul fleet... ick.

FlyWorld

Recaro's on long haul? Like 10+ hours? Really? That sounds like it's crossing a line.

Sulley

As the French say, oui...

http://corporate.airfrance.com/en/pr...mfort-for-all/

They make the seats sound so comfortable

mgcsinc

Hahahahahaha, let us always remember that there are airlines out there that put UA's "enhancement" BS to shame.

FlyWorld

Wow. I'm assuming that's the same "improved" version that UA has chosen.

Just from looking at the photo, I can start to feel the burning and bruising sensations that would develop from > 10 hours in that without movement.

My view: 3-4 hours - no problem. 5-6 hours, I'll have to try to form an opinion.

But, more than that? No way.

Maybe it's somehow made more tolerable by the french accents?

eng3

Just took a 4hr flight on one of these new A320s in 21A. Seat cushions seem thinner and harder. They also seem more narrow to me but that must be my imagination. They are definitely shorter. Like previously reported, the tray does fold down infront of you. This actually seems like somewhat of an upgrade. It is thicker and pulls out closer to you and more sturdy, but it seems smaller. Strange to find it in an exit row though since it completely blocks the exit. It's been a while since I've been in the exit row of an airbus so I can't tell if the pitch has changed much, I think it is less though. The united status page said "Wi-Fi access is available for purchase on this flight. Free audio programming is also available, and offers live cockpit communications with air traffic control on Channel 9, a feature that's unique to United". But no audio and no CH9. No power ports either. All together definitely a downgrade in passenger comfort. At this point, the seat is barely a step above a ride on a regional jet

nova08

I was on a 319 wifi bird this weekend and noticed that when the FA/Pilots made announcements the in-seat audio/Ch 9 never cut out, so it was easy to miss any announcements.

oliver2002

Recaro makes more than one type of seat. AF uses the SL3510 on regional flights using the A320series. That one is the precursor to the seat LH designed with Recaro (BL3520). The SL3510 is fare worse than the BL3520, the biggest crime there is the no recline feature . The United seat is a padded BL3520.

The longhaul variant AF chose the CL3710, which is a variant of the longhaul LH Y seat found in the older A330 and all A346.

aanswer

Just flew on one of the A320s from IAH to LGA and the seats are painful! Was sitting in seat 21A and couldn't wait to get off. Plus, no IFE = not good.

spin88

thanks for posting, I was about to point out that it is not the UAL seat, does not even look like it. For folks who want to see the differences, here is the Racardo site: http://www.recaro-as.com/bl3520.html

and p.s. here is what Rainy had to say when the BL3520 was launched "However, United remains confident the changes being made to its Airbus narrowbody fleet will result in “a much better aircraft for our passengers and a better customer convenience”, Rainey declared."

Always another "changes you will like"

UA-NYC

- Like the new seats
- Dislike the new seats

(I'll keep my personal distaste out of the answer possibilities)

Hartmann

The seats have been moved closer together in the exit rows on the planes with these seats, that I am sure of.

Xyzzy

Your wish is my cmmand! I just created a poll for this. I believe I have provided a good range of choices. If you have suggestions related to the choices, please send me a PM.

Xyzzy
UA forum moderator

spin88

thanks for the poll, and thanks for the excellent suggestion for one.