May 2, 2017, 3:12 pm
Last edit by: Wooglin
UA Premier four (4) segment rule
To be eligible to qualify for any Premier level, you must fly a minimum of four paid flight segments on flights operated by United and/or United Express during a calendar year.
- Four (4) paid or award (
not award) flight segments operated by UA/UX (Award tickets qualify as of 2023) - Flight segment needs to be credited to UA MP to qualify
- Codeshares operated by UA qualify
- Codeshares operated by other airlines / partners do not qualify
- Can be on any ticket stock (do not need to be sold by UA)
Basic Economy (N) fares do not now count (regardless of elite status)(BE segments now qualified -- starting Dec 2018)- A flight segment is each flight between two airports as purchased (direct flights -single flight number with a stop - that credits as 1 PQF, counts as one segment)
- Original Routing Credit, when applicable, can be used
The requirement is waived for Chase MileagePlus Presidential Plus Card or a Chase United MileagePlus Club Card primary credit card holdersceased in 2020- Not required for Lifetime status (aka Million Miler status)
Related thread: Hitting the 4 UA Metal Segment Requirement - how to find cheapest option?
Minimum of 4 United flights/segments for Premier Status-Post your questions here
Jun 3, 2018, 11:43 pm
#361
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How does ORC Impact 4 Segment Requirement
Hey FTers,
I have a colleague that primary flies *A with most of his flights being on non-UA metal (i.e. AC or LH). He's currently a Platinum member on MP and is eager to re-qualify to Gold next year albeit he hasn't set foot on a single UA/UX flight this year. In a few weeks he'll be flying DEL to YYZ (via EWR) entirely on UA/UX metal which coincidentally will earn him the 4 segment requirement along with the 30,000+ PQM.
The only concern I have for him is what happens if he gets rebooked on a *A partner (i.e. AC) due to IRROPs (i.e. he misconnections on his EWR -> YYZ and gets rebooked on AC), would he still get the 4 segments on UA/UX metal or would it count the IRROP segment as a non-UA/UX segment? If the IRROP causes him not to qualify for the 4 segment requirement on UA/UX, could he claim ORC on the whole thing to ensure he got the 4 segment requirement since he was originally booked on all UA/UX metal and it wasn't his fault that he was pushed off a flight?
Safe Travels,
James
I have a colleague that primary flies *A with most of his flights being on non-UA metal (i.e. AC or LH). He's currently a Platinum member on MP and is eager to re-qualify to Gold next year albeit he hasn't set foot on a single UA/UX flight this year. In a few weeks he'll be flying DEL to YYZ (via EWR) entirely on UA/UX metal which coincidentally will earn him the 4 segment requirement along with the 30,000+ PQM.
The only concern I have for him is what happens if he gets rebooked on a *A partner (i.e. AC) due to IRROPs (i.e. he misconnections on his EWR -> YYZ and gets rebooked on AC), would he still get the 4 segments on UA/UX metal or would it count the IRROP segment as a non-UA/UX segment? If the IRROP causes him not to qualify for the 4 segment requirement on UA/UX, could he claim ORC on the whole thing to ensure he got the 4 segment requirement since he was originally booked on all UA/UX metal and it wasn't his fault that he was pushed off a flight?
Safe Travels,
James
Jun 4, 2018, 12:07 am
#362
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ORC is exactly that -- Original Routing Credit. They will remove any credit for the replacement flights and replace it with his ticketed flights. That should take care of the UA segment requirement. As you suggest, it wouldn't be his fault that he didn't fly UA in that case, so he's not penalized for it.
Aug 12, 2018, 7:16 pm
#364
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Sep 7, 2018, 11:48 am
#365
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United Premier flying segments
Hello,
I'm considering switching to Mileage Plus, and have a question regarding the premier flying segments. I've seen that in order to gain any premier status, 4 United segments are required. On the other hand, when flying Business/First there is a 1.5 PQS.
If I meet all the PQD and PQM needs, am I required to fly 4 actual segments? Or is flying 3 Business/First (4.5 PQS) enough (e.g., SFO->EWR->FRA->SFO)?
Thanks,
Joe
I'm considering switching to Mileage Plus, and have a question regarding the premier flying segments. I've seen that in order to gain any premier status, 4 United segments are required. On the other hand, when flying Business/First there is a 1.5 PQS.
If I meet all the PQD and PQM needs, am I required to fly 4 actual segments? Or is flying 3 Business/First (4.5 PQS) enough (e.g., SFO->EWR->FRA->SFO)?
Thanks,
Joe
Sep 7, 2018, 12:02 pm
#367
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Are you certain? I can't find that anywhere in the rules. The specific quote is "To be eligible to qualify for any Premier level, you must fly a minimum of four paid flight segments on flights operated by United and/or United Express during a calendar year."
Sep 7, 2018, 12:11 pm
#368
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Sep 7, 2018, 9:39 pm
#370
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Sep 25, 2018, 9:17 pm
#371
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Hi All,
Quick question... so it looks like with a little luck, paid F/J ticket from JNB-FRA-IAD, with return, will get me from Gold to 1K. But here's the rub. I will not have the 4 requisite segments on UA metal. I already have the waiver of the PQD's as I'm based in Africa, but the segments is an absolute. So the question is... will the 1K just sit there until the 4 segments are reached? The plan is to do a mini-run on my next trip to the States (November). Thanks for any confirmation on this.
FF
Quick question... so it looks like with a little luck, paid F/J ticket from JNB-FRA-IAD, with return, will get me from Gold to 1K. But here's the rub. I will not have the 4 requisite segments on UA metal. I already have the waiver of the PQD's as I'm based in Africa, but the segments is an absolute. So the question is... will the 1K just sit there until the 4 segments are reached? The plan is to do a mini-run on my next trip to the States (November). Thanks for any confirmation on this.
FF
Sep 25, 2018, 9:23 pm
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Sep 25, 2018, 9:26 pm
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Hi All,
Quick question... so it looks like with a little luck, paid F/J ticket from JNB-FRA-IAD, with return, will get me from Gold to 1K. But here's the rub. I will not have the 4 requisite segments on UA metal. I already have the waiver of the PQD's as I'm based in Africa, but the segments is an absolute. So the question is... will the 1K just sit there until the 4 segments are reached? The plan is to do a mini-run on my next trip to the States (November). Thanks for any confirmation on this.
FF
Quick question... so it looks like with a little luck, paid F/J ticket from JNB-FRA-IAD, with return, will get me from Gold to 1K. But here's the rub. I will not have the 4 requisite segments on UA metal. I already have the waiver of the PQD's as I'm based in Africa, but the segments is an absolute. So the question is... will the 1K just sit there until the 4 segments are reached? The plan is to do a mini-run on my next trip to the States (November). Thanks for any confirmation on this.
FF
Sep 25, 2018, 9:35 pm
#375
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I've actually been thinking about it recently... the 1K really was a fluke... this last trip got me over 55K miles which just catapulted me.
I don't know how long I'll be in Africa... next assignment will (fingers crossed) be in the Americas.
But, let's say I was to stay in Africa or Asia for that matter, is there a *alliance partner that does not have some sort of "metal" requirement? on better put allows you to attain top tiers without touching their planes?
Thanks,
FF
I don't know how long I'll be in Africa... next assignment will (fingers crossed) be in the Americas.
But, let's say I was to stay in Africa or Asia for that matter, is there a *alliance partner that does not have some sort of "metal" requirement? on better put allows you to attain top tiers without touching their planes?
Thanks,
FF