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Well, wetheryet, you are definitely in the minority in this discussion. So I will leave it at that. You are entitled to your opinion, and it is just that, an opinion. Just like mine and everyones who wasn't there.
And calling my example of when I would say something weak or fallacious, i.e. strawman, is again, your opinion. I was just giving one example of when I did say something.
And calling my example of when I would say something weak or fallacious, i.e. strawman, is again, your opinion. I was just giving one example of when I did say something.
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I don't see anything wrong with what you did. However, if it were my non-GS self, I would not have dared to approach the flight crew under such circumstances. Not on UA.
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When you have OP getting up and becoming part of the action (who cares if he was calling the GS line or calling his grandmother) it just serves to make the crew even more ready to engage rather than defuse.
OP should never have been told by crew what they were doing or considering with pax. In fact they should get repriminded for it.
OP should never have been told by crew what they were doing or considering with pax. In fact they should get repriminded for it.
We're at odds here. I respect your opinion but I'm actually trying to walk in the OP's shoes myself. In that situation, I probably would've done the same thing.
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I think that the correct and noble thing to do when a guy like the OP mentioned is probably going to make up a story, down the road, over something trivial, and using his horsepower, make an unsubstantiated complaint to the company, to provide your name, as a witness, to the employee involved.
Otherwise, I think that getting in the middle of something and apologizing for an idiot is not something that anyone should do, even if they also have high status.
I say, give your name to the FA or pilot, for future follow-ups, sit back and relax, myob, and enjoy your flight. Way too many FTer's policing this airline, and for what???
Otherwise, I think that getting in the middle of something and apologizing for an idiot is not something that anyone should do, even if they also have high status.
I say, give your name to the FA or pilot, for future follow-ups, sit back and relax, myob, and enjoy your flight. Way too many FTer's policing this airline, and for what???
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I think that the correct and noble thing to do when a guy like the OP mentioned is probably going to make up a story, down the road, over something trivial, and using his horsepower, make an unsubstantiated complaint to the company, to provide your name, as a witness, to the employee involved.
Otherwise, I think that getting in the middle of something and apologizing for an idiot is not something that anyone should do, even if they also have high status.
Otherwise, I think that getting in the middle of something and apologizing for an idiot is not something that anyone should do, even if they also have high status.
The idea of apologizing "on behalf of all other GS" is just weird. DYKWIA?
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Save the snark.
I have things exactly in order. I gave the snippy FA and an example and you are improperly applying the context.
Your bag on floor example is a strawman argument = fail. Unrelated to the issue of crew/pax interaction. Try again.
The comparison of the bag on the floor vs a pax/crew interaction is the exact definition of a strawman argument.
My point is this. So often in these cases the crew could easily get things resolved, no booting of pax, no calling the GS line, etc.
When you have OP getting up and becoming part of the action (who cares if he was calling the GS line or calling his grandmother) it just serves to make the crew even more ready to engage rather than defuse.
OP should never have been told by crew what they were doing or considering with pax. In fact they should get repriminded for it.
I tend to walk in other people's shoes and can often see cases where a FA could easily solve the pest pax issue but instead it becomes a test of wills.
I have things exactly in order. I gave the snippy FA and an example and you are improperly applying the context.
Your bag on floor example is a strawman argument = fail. Unrelated to the issue of crew/pax interaction. Try again.
The comparison of the bag on the floor vs a pax/crew interaction is the exact definition of a strawman argument.
My point is this. So often in these cases the crew could easily get things resolved, no booting of pax, no calling the GS line, etc.
When you have OP getting up and becoming part of the action (who cares if he was calling the GS line or calling his grandmother) it just serves to make the crew even more ready to engage rather than defuse.
OP should never have been told by crew what they were doing or considering with pax. In fact they should get repriminded for it.
I tend to walk in other people's shoes and can often see cases where a FA could easily solve the pest pax issue but instead it becomes a test of wills.
The antidote upthread about the crew treating the poster like a hero- appears to be what some are after- and thusly search out these scenarios.
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I think that the correct and noble thing to do when a guy like the OP mentioned is probably going to make up a story, down the road, over something trivial, and using his horsepower, make an unsubstantiated complaint to the company, to provide your name, as a witness, to the employee involved.
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I say, give your name to the FA or pilot, for future follow-ups, sit back and relax, myob, and enjoy your flight. Way too many FTer's policing this airline, and for what???
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I say, give your name to the FA or pilot, for future follow-ups, sit back and relax, myob, and enjoy your flight. Way too many FTer's policing this airline, and for what???
I see the FAs talking to the Captain and looking over at Mr. GS clearly discussing what to do with him. I go up to them and explain what I have seen and apologize on behalf of all GS for his behavior. They are all shocked and have never seen anything like this. Captain called HQ and asked if it was ok to kick Mr. GS off the plane, but HQ told him since he is a GS "only if he is a true risk to the safety of other pax and crew" can he be kicked off. Captain took down my name and info and told me that I may receive a call in the next few days to discuss what I saw for their investigation.
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Not sure who pulled the DYKWIA...me or her...
...so I'm boarding a flight from ORD- MCO last week with my two boys...one 7 and one 9. We're flying on points out of my wife's Global Services account so we are considered Global for purposes of this flight. Since I (like virtually everyone else here) hates gate lice, I refuse to stand in line for zone 1 like so many do. When they call Uniformed Military and GS, my sons and I politely excuse our way to the front of the line with no incident...until we get to the very front when this women puts her hand out and stops me...and says "excuse me, but I'm in first class and we have priority boarding!"
To which I reply..."I'm well aware of that, this isn't my first flight...show her my ticket that has GLOBAL SERVICES printed in bold on it and gently push her hand down and (purposely) stand with my back to her shepherding my two boys past her. We board and the Gate agent gives me a knowing smirk.
So I'm not sure if it was me or her that was the guilty party...or perhaps both, but it was pretty amusing to me.
To which I reply..."I'm well aware of that, this isn't my first flight...show her my ticket that has GLOBAL SERVICES printed in bold on it and gently push her hand down and (purposely) stand with my back to her shepherding my two boys past her. We board and the Gate agent gives me a knowing smirk.
So I'm not sure if it was me or her that was the guilty party...or perhaps both, but it was pretty amusing to me.
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...so I'm boarding a flight from ORD- MCO last week with my two boys...one 7 and one 9. We're flying on points out of my wife's Global Services account so we are considered Global for purposes of this flight. Since I (like virtually everyone else here) hates gate lice, I refuse to stand in line for zone 1 like so many do. When they call Uniformed Military and GS, my sons and I politely excuse our way to the front of the line with no incident...until we get to the very front when this women puts her hand out and stops me...and says "excuse me, but I'm in first class and we have priority boarding!"
To which I reply..."I'm well aware of that, this isn't my first flight...show her my ticket that has GLOBAL SERVICES printed in bold on it and gently push her hand down and (purposely) stand with my back to her shepherding my two boys past her. We board and the Gate agent gives me a knowing smirk.
So I'm not sure if it was me or her that was the guilty party...or perhaps both, but it was pretty amusing to me.
To which I reply..."I'm well aware of that, this isn't my first flight...show her my ticket that has GLOBAL SERVICES printed in bold on it and gently push her hand down and (purposely) stand with my back to her shepherding my two boys past her. We board and the Gate agent gives me a knowing smirk.
So I'm not sure if it was me or her that was the guilty party...or perhaps both, but it was pretty amusing to me.
Good for you.
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Silver with her first upgrade. She was probably standing in Group 1 line for 30 minutes.
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While I don't have this currently, do you know how annoying it is to be pushed out of the way by a bunch of men who look like my dad because they just assume I'm standing in the wrong line? I didn't realize that wrinkled khakis and middle age were the dress code for Group 1.
Funny how such a post would end up in this very thread.
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More likely someone who jumped on an ultra-cheap P or Z fare and isn't even that familiar with UA. I've noticed these inexperienced passengers are more common in UA F these days and you can just see the building face of disappointment after no champagne, a crap meal, and indifferent FAs. I am guessing that for many its the first and last time they buy a first class fare (on UA at least).
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Not ok.
While I don't have this currently, do you know how annoying it is to be pushed out of the way by a bunch of men who look like my dad because they just assume I'm standing in the wrong line? I didn't realize that wrinkled khakis and middle age were the dress code for Group 1.
Funny how such a post would end up in this very thread.
While I don't have this currently, do you know how annoying it is to be pushed out of the way by a bunch of men who look like my dad because they just assume I'm standing in the wrong line? I didn't realize that wrinkled khakis and middle age were the dress code for Group 1.
Funny how such a post would end up in this very thread.