"Expert Mode" Changes
#391
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: UA 1K, SPG Platinum, UA Million Miler
Posts: 2,596
Shannon,
Not sure what's more galling- you expecting us to believe your excuse for turning it off or that you're actually turning it off. I would have 10x the respect for you if you just told the truth and offered a reasonable explanation, good or bad. It's blindingly obvious that upper management wanted to de-value the certs. Anything else is BS. If United were a hospital, they would amputate your leg as a means to fix a broken ankle. You guys are both lazy and disengenuous, a fairly toxic combination for any business, much less an airline. I'm kicking myself for not immediately dropping UA for AA when I got the match. I'll never requalify for EXP now. Shame on me but shame on you for your insultingly stupid explanations.
(and I've been a pretty vocal defender of UA on here recently)
Not sure what's more galling- you expecting us to believe your excuse for turning it off or that you're actually turning it off. I would have 10x the respect for you if you just told the truth and offered a reasonable explanation, good or bad. It's blindingly obvious that upper management wanted to de-value the certs. Anything else is BS. If United were a hospital, they would amputate your leg as a means to fix a broken ankle. You guys are both lazy and disengenuous, a fairly toxic combination for any business, much less an airline. I'm kicking myself for not immediately dropping UA for AA when I got the match. I'll never requalify for EXP now. Shame on me but shame on you for your insultingly stupid explanations.
(and I've been a pretty vocal defender of UA on here recently)
#392

Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,324
Now a question-will non-revs still be able to see fare bucket availability? Obviously for them, that is what they need to see in order to gauge their travel and if yes, why would it be available for them and not us-or is the fare bucket availability being completely turned off thus screwing both loyal customers and the employees who make the airline run?
employees get the actual flight loads of all flights system wide.
#394




Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: Virgin Aus Platinum; UA 1K; Sofitel Platinum (A-Club); Marriott Platinum; Hilton Gold / Premium Club
Posts: 492
Shannon - why are you allowing yourself to be played? Going into the transition you were tops - and throughout 3/3 I thought the way you engaged with customers to understand system issues was outstanding.
We all know what has happened since 3/3 - but why would you allow your amazing skills to destroyed by remaining in a job where you have to spin this madness and somehow pretend to still support customers.
UA has become an airline where you have to fight for 5,000 AIr NZ miles when you fly the fare classes published on united.com - and even after 6 emails and months...still nothing. I think the philosophy is say no until customers just give up and take their spend away. There is no other explanation - we had top customer service, top on time performance and that has gone down the toilet overnight.
You see so much anger here because many of us run businesses - and we hate watching a once proud business that was on the up and up flushed down the toilet.
We all know what has happened since 3/3 - but why would you allow your amazing skills to destroyed by remaining in a job where you have to spin this madness and somehow pretend to still support customers.
UA has become an airline where you have to fight for 5,000 AIr NZ miles when you fly the fare classes published on united.com - and even after 6 emails and months...still nothing. I think the philosophy is say no until customers just give up and take their spend away. There is no other explanation - we had top customer service, top on time performance and that has gone down the toilet overnight.
You see so much anger here because many of us run businesses - and we hate watching a once proud business that was on the up and up flushed down the toilet.
#395




Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: world
Programs: all
Posts: 1,422
Today United Airlines has decided to remove award and upgrade class inventory from various channels, affecting ExpertFlyer. As such, United will be removed from the list of airlines in the Award & Upgrade search tool until further notice. In addition, all Active Flight Alerts for United award or upgrade class codes will be put into the Expired state. Should the award and upgrade data become available at a later date, we will again activate those Flight Alerts.
However, all other United data will still be available on ExpertFlyer including:
Detailed regular fare class inventory via the Flight Availability search tool
Flight Alerts for regular fare inventory classes
Live Seat Maps and Seat Alerts
Fare Information searches and all related fare data
Flight Status, Flight Detail, Travel Information, and all other ExpertFlyer search tools.
Thank you for your understanding in this matter and continued support of ExpertFlyer.com
-The ExpertFlyer.com Team
#396




Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Aussie in ORD
Programs: Marriott --something--, Ua plat, GE.. Sucker for punishment
Posts: 4,346
What a fun day to be Shannon!
Taking UA at their word that this is not about TOD upgrades and that we will get access back someday. Still, it's baffling that the solution isn't "fix it first, and then replace it" rather than "generate lots of ill will among high-margin pax."
Taking UA at their word that this is not about TOD upgrades and that we will get access back someday. Still, it's baffling that the solution isn't "fix it first, and then replace it" rather than "generate lots of ill will among high-margin pax."
Why remove capability before a fix is in? Accountability=0
#397
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Washington
Programs: United 1K 1MM, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Hertz Prez
Posts: 250
Yah, I took the AA status match...but I do still care what happens.
#398

Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 83
Despite my hope that United will improve,
it seems that United is taking every
possible steps to push me away (won't elaborate).
It is time to leave United for good,
after 18 years of loyalty.
it seems that United is taking every
possible steps to push me away (won't elaborate).
It is time to leave United for good,
after 18 years of loyalty.
#399
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: KWI
Programs: I travel for fun these days.
Posts: 383
I see straw rapidly approaching my camels...
#401

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NYC
Programs: UA, AA, Hilton, Marriott
Posts: 668
Amazing how this gets "fixed" so quickly when there are many other pressing issues that deserve attention!
#402
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: IAH
Programs: UA/CO-GS/PPlat,AA-Gold,SPG-Plat,Hilton-Diamond,Marriott-Plat,Hertz-Pres_Circe
Posts: 824
I think this is about much more than upgrades. It's about dynamic pricing.
Offer one person an L fare, another a W, and yet another a B fare as the cheapest. Don't let them see that cheaper fare buckets are available.
Offer one person an L fare, another a W, and yet another a B fare as the cheapest. Don't let them see that cheaper fare buckets are available.
#403




Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Programs: UA 1K 1MM, AC, VIPorter, Marriott LT Plat, HH Diamond
Posts: 371
This is an unbelievably bad change, the worst since the merger. 

It already takes me hours to plan a trip to Europe when I want to use a GPU because of: (1) extremely limited R inventory released in advance; (2) the W-fare minimum, meaning I can't just search for the cheapest and/or shortest flights, which is what most online search engines are optimized for; and (3) the need to avoid a substandard product (i.e. the unconverted 777s). I'm dreading all the extra time and frustration next time when I have to speak to an agent to check each of UA's 40+ transatlantic routes for R availability. I'm glad I've already used all my GPUs for the year. The online availability was invaluable to me just 2 days ago when, due to the LH strike, I had to find an alternate routing that preserved the upgrades for both me and my companion.
I am so jealous of all the people who can just switch to AA's more generous SWU system. Unfortunately, I live in a city where only *A makes sense (for example, we get just 3 American Eagle E145s to ORD per day, and that's it for oneworld)

It already takes me hours to plan a trip to Europe when I want to use a GPU because of: (1) extremely limited R inventory released in advance; (2) the W-fare minimum, meaning I can't just search for the cheapest and/or shortest flights, which is what most online search engines are optimized for; and (3) the need to avoid a substandard product (i.e. the unconverted 777s). I'm dreading all the extra time and frustration next time when I have to speak to an agent to check each of UA's 40+ transatlantic routes for R availability. I'm glad I've already used all my GPUs for the year. The online availability was invaluable to me just 2 days ago when, due to the LH strike, I had to find an alternate routing that preserved the upgrades for both me and my companion.
I am so jealous of all the people who can just switch to AA's more generous SWU system. Unfortunately, I live in a city where only *A makes sense (for example, we get just 3 American Eagle E145s to ORD per day, and that's it for oneworld)
#404
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: UA 1K, SPG Platinum, UA Million Miler
Posts: 2,596
I feel bad that Shannon has had to become a modern day "Baghdad Bob"
Last edited by BigPoppaCO; Sep 8, 2012 at 7:50 am
#405
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1
Why do I bother?
Why bother maintaining 1K any longer? Each technical and operational change United makes frustrates what should be its most valued customers. You "strain at a gnat and swallow a camel". How could a team of IT and operational decision makers take time to sit in a room to solve this "problem" and implement it at a time when (to the CEO's point in this month's "Hemispheres") all resources should be singularly focused on fixing the on time performance and maintaining functioning aircraft. That is the core issue. Those real problems are the ones seriously impacting the fundamental operations and financials of your company. How the Board of Directors have not replaced the entire leadership team or otherwise divided and sold the assets of the company and "called it a day" is honestly beyond my ability to comprehend.

