Originally Posted by pdx1M

I have to chuckle at the proposal - fine with me if UA wants to do that but I just want to understand - you want them to promote you as a 1MM flier to a tier above what you used to get but it's ok for us 2MM to get nothing over what we used to get? Interesting how self serving all these things get isn't it.

I do think (and always have) that the airlines ought to use MM status to give the head start each year on higher tiers. That is the one way that they would actually incent retirees to fly more. As it is, unless I think I can fly a tier's worth more than whatever my lifetime status is I have no incentive to fly any more than whatever gets me where I'm going that year. They wouldn't even have to give full "pre-credit" for your lifetime tier for this to work. E.g., give a lifetime gold a pre-start of 35K and you still might get some airline value from it.

Next up, I am waiting for all the lawyers here to have a huge fight/discussion when UA does the equivalence computation and it differs from theirs. If UA were clever they would do the computation and add in a 10% slop factor to preempt that outcry - on the other hand, maybe 10% wouldn't be enough to satisfy everyone and then the CO folks would be irked. Guess they should just make us all uber-GS for life if we ever flew either airline before the merger.

Cynical - yup, a bit.

Originally Posted by whimike

Although likely unpopular on this forum, I think there should also be weighting based on revenue miles vs. miles accumulated via credit card churning. 1 MM should be 1P for those that have actually flown 1 MM, but there are those that got to 1 MM from simply playing the credit card game, and in my mind those people haven't earned lifetime 1K let alone 1P.

Perhaps there could be some system where the current MM tiers exist, but there is a bump based on actual flown miles. Just a thought....

Originally Posted by xFF

Aside from that, the prioritizing of 1K/MM over 1K is mainline thinking. It balances the "reward today's business" philosophy (incentive for MM's to earn 1K in a given year) with "reward long term loyalty" philosophy. It's a dual incentive.

Originally Posted by dasams

When I crossed 1 MM, I wondered if I, as a current year 1K, would be rewarded with a higher status than a 1K non-MM'er. In time, I learned that I would not and it always felt like UA let that one slip through the crack. dave

Originally Posted by Firewind

I almost always have been so recognized and prioritized, though on an informal basis.

Originally Posted by ozstamps

Logically, a few annual SWU's SHOULD be part of each tier.

No point retiring, and being a 1K or GS, with zero SWU's to try and use!

Originally Posted by PanAmWT

I hope people read the official responses before posting. UA Insider already said that Lifetime 1K will receive six SWUs January each year unless they already received them by flying 100,000 EQM.

Originally Posted by goingbananas

So, I have seen 2-3 proposals on resolution here.

1) Yours Joel67
2) The OZ plus UAstar and Mogul et al....
3) Someone mentioned counting the 1st MM on UA as double (or something like that) and going from there.
4) others I have missed?

Put them up, let UA Management see them (here or by other means), and see where the chips fall....

Originally Posted by whimike

Although likely unpopular on this forum, I think there should also be weighting based on revenue miles vs. miles accumulated via credit card churning. 1 MM should be 1P for those that have actually flown 1 MM, but there are those that got to 1 MM from simply playing the credit card game, and in my mind those people haven't earned lifetime 1K let alone 1P.

Perhaps there could be some system where the current MM tiers exist, but there is a bump based on actual flown miles. Just a thought....

Originally Posted by xFF

Just as there are certainly PMCO fliers who feel that legacy MP was too generous, this is implicitly saying the same about legacy OnePass.

I'm not arguing the point; there is no point in that. Fact is, CO defined their MM the way they did: BIS + EQM + FEQM + whatever else. They can't go back on that now. The adjustment to PMUA mileage totals is the best possible attempt to level that field.

Originally Posted by Here2There

How about after the onetime adjustment you qualify using both PMCO and PMUA qualification criteria?

Something like:

1MM EQM Premier Silver + E+ at time of booking
1MM BIS Premier Gold
2MM EQM Premier Gold
2MM BIS Premier Platinum + Lifetime United Club
3MM EQM Premier Platinum + Lifetime United Club
3MM BIS Premier 1K
4MM EQM Premier 1k
4MM BIS GS
5MM EQM GS

After the onetime adjustment only BIS count.

Originally Posted by PHLGovFlyer

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Something along the lines of an overlay system as Here2There and I propose could resolve a lot of the discrepancies that are giving people heartburn here.
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Originally Posted by dgcpaphd

With the new proposed plan for the combined million-mile program, there is no longer an incentive for passengers to attempt to achieve million-mile status. Therefore, loyalty to UA becomes a non issue.

Originally Posted by bmvaughn

I am highly incentivized to reach MM status on UA now that there's a spousal benefit, much moreso than under the previous program.
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Originally Posted by pdx1M

I have to chuckle at the proposal - fine with me if UA wants to do that but I just want to understand - you want them to promote you as a 1MM flier to a tier above what you used to get but it's ok for us 2MM to get nothing over what we used to get? Interesting how self serving all these things get isn't it.

Originally Posted by dgcpaphd

I should have said there is no longer an incentive for MOST passengers to attempt to achieve million-mile status, obviously, not all.
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