How many are thinking of jumping ship?
Jun 14, 2011, 11:04 pm
#122
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Surviving as in itself. I see AA's future as having no choice but make drastic cuts in addition to the cuts they've already made, or be acquired by another airline. The AA name will definitely stay, but they are in no position to be the acquiring airline this time around. Considering the changes that are driving away some PMUA elites, it really boggles my mind that they are seeing green pastures in AA.
Changes are going to happen over there, and when they do, I wouldn't want to be so invested in that airline that I have to decide, again, whether or not I will like those changes.
Changes are going to happen over there, and when they do, I wouldn't want to be so invested in that airline that I have to decide, again, whether or not I will like those changes.
Jun 15, 2011, 1:24 am
#123
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Will stay with UA because of the;
1- asia flight schedules & times
2- The gold star * is great for china lounge's. (air china flights really do post )
Delta.dumb
No asia lounges when flying china partner's, & the china southern flights seldom post. & the delta.dumb web page is very , very slow in asia.
But Delta is ok in north america as i am tier 2 hub trapped there. but rumored to close MSP as a hub when the state shuts down.
1- asia flight schedules & times
2- The gold star * is great for china lounge's. (air china flights really do post )
Delta.dumb
No asia lounges when flying china partner's, & the china southern flights seldom post. & the delta.dumb web page is very , very slow in asia.
But Delta is ok in north america as i am tier 2 hub trapped there. but rumored to close MSP as a hub when the state shuts down.
Jun 15, 2011, 5:46 am
#124
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The more I fly them the less
I actually like UAL. With notable exceptions I find the corporate attitude generally off putting especially as regards international US based cabin crews (no friendly skies there). I don't like the gotcha games: the change fees, and the cranky website. I am 1k two years running due to business travel I have no choice on and some personal travel of the mile run variety. As fares increase I am less likely to do those (usually long ones to Asia for a week). Being DC based UAL is logical for international and I don't like to go to NYC to catch flights over the pond. Westbound and southbound AA is a better option out of DCA. Premium service on UAL is fair but the food needs a lot of work. The acft seem well maintained but are showing their age. Generally speaking I have found UAL quite reliable operationally. Miles redemptions are very expensive too. AA seems much more generous in that Department. I rarely use my United miles and have built up a balance of over 700,000. I expect mileage redemption to improve under Continental management.
Jun 15, 2011, 6:20 am
#125
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Jun 15, 2011, 7:08 am
#126
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Jun 15, 2011, 7:33 am
#127
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I would agree here except I'd throw in the caveat that this is applicable only for own-metal. CO has always been good at making partner flights available. I never had a problem redeeming on AF when CO was still in Skyteam, and I find availability on Star Alliance partners to be even better these days. It is actually one of the few things that make me retain 1P on UACO in the foreseeable future.
Jun 16, 2011, 12:45 pm
#128
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Some of UA's 757 haven't been updated in about 15 yrs and the interiors do show this.
Some of thier A320s are need of a good clean on the inside too. Each airline has thier issues when it comes to A/C.. AA is dumping thier MD-80s for the 738s and once this is done, I'll be a happier flier.. Alaska was able to shed thier MD-80 and now just fly all 737's.. Much better airline for that.
Some of thier A320s are need of a good clean on the inside too. Each airline has thier issues when it comes to A/C.. AA is dumping thier MD-80s for the 738s and once this is done, I'll be a happier flier.. Alaska was able to shed thier MD-80 and now just fly all 737's.. Much better airline for that.
very unlikely. think about it from time to time but really no better options. no desire to connect in dtw or atl, no desire to fly ancient md-80's etc. often think about switching to ac but they are stingy with upgrades and *G alone would land me back in Y for my odd domestic flights.
while overall i preferred ua pre-merger, i have to say that with the exception of the remaining old 777's, their a/c are generally in good shape and i like connecting in ord. and i have to confess that i have only ever had 1 upgrade fail in several years as 1k (and i was 1/86 on that flight). also appreciate the global network and 3 class intl flights (assuming they remain...)
would be nice to see:
--better meals in intl c
--better lounges @sfo, iad (or finally rebuild iad for that matter)
--bring back the nice blankets in domestic F!!
--branding that's not a total embarrassment
while overall i preferred ua pre-merger, i have to say that with the exception of the remaining old 777's, their a/c are generally in good shape and i like connecting in ord. and i have to confess that i have only ever had 1 upgrade fail in several years as 1k (and i was 1/86 on that flight). also appreciate the global network and 3 class intl flights (assuming they remain...)
would be nice to see:
--better meals in intl c
--better lounges @sfo, iad (or finally rebuild iad for that matter)
--bring back the nice blankets in domestic F!!
--branding that's not a total embarrassment
Jun 16, 2011, 3:11 pm
#129
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Some of UA's 757 haven't been updated in about 15 yrs and the interiors do show this.
Some of thier A320s are need of a good clean on the inside too. Each airline has thier issues when it comes to A/C.. AA is dumping thier MD-80s for the 738s and once this is done, I'll be a happier flier.. Alaska was able to shed thier MD-80 and now just fly all 737's.. Much better airline for that.
Some of thier A320s are need of a good clean on the inside too. Each airline has thier issues when it comes to A/C.. AA is dumping thier MD-80s for the 738s and once this is done, I'll be a happier flier.. Alaska was able to shed thier MD-80 and now just fly all 737's.. Much better airline for that.
Jun 16, 2011, 3:37 pm
#130
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I would agree here except I'd throw in the caveat that this is applicable only for own-metal. CO has always been good at making partner flights available. I never had a problem redeeming on AF when CO was still in Skyteam, and I find availability on Star Alliance partners to be even better these days. It is actually one of the few things that make me retain 1P on UACO in the foreseeable future.
Jun 16, 2011, 10:01 pm
#131
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I can definitely believe that. CO has always been known for terrible award availability on its own metal, and I would think UA will head in that direction as well. But where CO has always shined is on partner redemptions where there are usually tons of seats available without any YQ surcharges...
Jun 17, 2011, 2:52 am
#133
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And I'm SFO or SMF based. Very happy camper right now. This is only my second year as 1K so I still remember how bad they *all* are in E-
I'm sticking UA.
Jun 17, 2011, 6:54 am
#134
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Gotta agree on that, after a bit of a rocky start at the beginning of the year, I haven't sat in E+ for almost 5 months...
And I'm SFO or SMF based. Very happy camper right now. This is only my second year as 1K so I still remember how bad they *all* are in E-
I'm sticking UA.
And I'm SFO or SMF based. Very happy camper right now. This is only my second year as 1K so I still remember how bad they *all* are in E-
I'm sticking UA.