Local lockdowns in the UK
#9226
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Manchester, United Kingdom
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Daily data:
Cases 47,685 (58,899 last Friday)
Deaths 158 (193)
Patients admitted 1,280 (1,402 on the 7th)
Patients in hospital 11,555 (12,853 on the 10th)
Patients in ventilation beds 331 (430 on the 10th)
Vaccinated up to and including 17 February 2022:
First dose: 52,551,460
Second dose: 48,839,853
Booster: 37,945,645
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now down 25.0% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is down 24.9%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 146.9 today.
Cases 47,685 (58,899 last Friday)
Deaths 158 (193)
Patients admitted 1,280 (1,402 on the 7th)
Patients in hospital 11,555 (12,853 on the 10th)
Patients in ventilation beds 331 (430 on the 10th)
Vaccinated up to and including 17 February 2022:
First dose: 52,551,460
Second dose: 48,839,853
Booster: 37,945,645
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now down 25.0% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is down 24.9%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 146.9 today.
#9227
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Delta reached its peak in the UK on 21 July 2021, with a 7 day case rate of 500 per 100k. (There are some complexities here, the pandemic has gone on so long that the demography of the UK has changed somewhat, so not all numbers are comparable). Delta then went on below the 500 mark all the way to 7 December 2021. Its lowest point was 309 on 17 September, which at the time was considered quite a high level of infection compared to the aftermath of Alpha, when we got as low as 21 per 100k, in May 2021. Then from 8 December 2021 onwards we went back over 500 as we hit Omicron, which peaked at 1885 on 5 January 2022. Today's official figure for the UK is 484 on ONS figures, about 470 on ECDC 7 day figures and 565 on UKHSA figures (these have a delay built into them).
But in round terms today is probably the day we can say the Omicron surge has receded to below its starting point and if current trends continue then we should fairly soon go below 309 - Wales already has - and thus below all parts of the summer and autumn of 2021. But we have a long way to get to the post-Alpha levels - maybe that won't matter so much. Sage released some papers today pointing out the risk of other variants, to sound a note of caution here, there again we know a lot more now than we did then.
#9228
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Harrogate
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Posts: 996
Well I thought it was extremely rare to catch COVID twice, but after starting to cough a lot this morning, I took a lateral flow at lunchtime and got a very strong positive, two thick lines. Current guidance says you don't need to follow up with a PCR but I went to a drive through test centre later in the afternoon anyway - should get the result back tomorrow. No other symptoms except a very bad dry cough - booster seems to be doing its job and stopping all the other symptoms.
#9229
No it is not extremely rare. Omicron has immune escape capacity and an infection by Omicron also give little immunity if you are immune naive. Currently circa 10% (with a large error bar) of new cases are re-infections.
#9230
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,709
Delta yes. Alpha less so. This is the stuff of future scientific reasearch but these variants, plus the initial infection version, all seem to have different epidemical trajectories, with Alpha and Omicron showing similarities. Which is less odd than it sounds since Omicron is not an evolution of Delta. In the next paragraph I'm mainly using ONS population numbers.
Delta reached its peak in the UK on 21 July 2021, with a 7 day case rate of 500 per 100k. (There are some complexities here, the pandemic has gone on so long that the demography of the UK has changed somewhat, so not all numbers are comparable). Delta then went on below the 500 mark all the way to 7 December 2021. Its lowest point was 309 on 17 September, which at the time was considered quite a high level of infection compared to the aftermath of Alpha, when we got as low as 21 per 100k, in May 2021. Then from 8 December 2021 onwards we went back over 500 as we hit Omicron, which peaked at 1885 on 5 January 2022. Today's official figure for the UK is 484 on ONS figures, about 470 on ECDC 7 day figures and 565 on UKHSA figures (these have a delay built into them).
But in round terms today is probably the day we can say the Omicron surge has receded to below its starting point and if current trends continue then we should fairly soon go below 309 - Wales already has - and thus below all parts of the summer and autumn of 2021. But we have a long way to get to the post-Alpha levels - maybe that won't matter so much. Sage released some papers today pointing out the risk of other variants, to sound a note of caution here, there again we know a lot more now than we did then.
Delta reached its peak in the UK on 21 July 2021, with a 7 day case rate of 500 per 100k. (There are some complexities here, the pandemic has gone on so long that the demography of the UK has changed somewhat, so not all numbers are comparable). Delta then went on below the 500 mark all the way to 7 December 2021. Its lowest point was 309 on 17 September, which at the time was considered quite a high level of infection compared to the aftermath of Alpha, when we got as low as 21 per 100k, in May 2021. Then from 8 December 2021 onwards we went back over 500 as we hit Omicron, which peaked at 1885 on 5 January 2022. Today's official figure for the UK is 484 on ONS figures, about 470 on ECDC 7 day figures and 565 on UKHSA figures (these have a delay built into them).
But in round terms today is probably the day we can say the Omicron surge has receded to below its starting point and if current trends continue then we should fairly soon go below 309 - Wales already has - and thus below all parts of the summer and autumn of 2021. But we have a long way to get to the post-Alpha levels - maybe that won't matter so much. Sage released some papers today pointing out the risk of other variants, to sound a note of caution here, there again we know a lot more now than we did then.
#9231
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Kent, UK
Programs: M&S Elite+
Posts: 3,658
Daily data:
Cases 34,377 (46,025 last Saturday)
Deaths 128 (167)
Vaccinated up to and including 18 February 2022:
First dose: 52,556,789
Second dose: 48,853,106
Booster: 37,964,306
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now down 24.6% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is down 22.5%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 141.3 today. The number of deaths in the last week has dropped to 968, the first time it has been blow 1,000 since 4th January. The case figure is low because Scotland did not report today for some reason. Wales does not report on Saturday.
Cases 34,377 (46,025 last Saturday)
Deaths 128 (167)
Vaccinated up to and including 18 February 2022:
First dose: 52,556,789
Second dose: 48,853,106
Booster: 37,964,306
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now down 24.6% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is down 22.5%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 141.3 today. The number of deaths in the last week has dropped to 968, the first time it has been blow 1,000 since 4th January. The case figure is low because Scotland did not report today for some reason. Wales does not report on Saturday.
#9232
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Possibly going a bit too Omni PR here, but here's my thinking. This is exactly what I want. To be able to go into the office when I need or want to go into the office. To have the option to work in the sun, in our coldest months*. In fact, it is where my employer seems to be heading. So downsising office space and finding something smaller and more city centre. However, there is a but. The but in question is the money behind all the existing office space and how that will be bought to bear to influence the government. It's a lot of money** representing quite extreme wealth. Expect coercion (using taxation as a lever)!
* Though I note the cost of self-catering apartmentos in the Canaries has gone through the roof!
** And I've written elsewhere that a sufficient concentration of money might as well have a mind of its own given the way it affects behaviour.
* Though I note the cost of self-catering apartmentos in the Canaries has gone through the roof!
** And I've written elsewhere that a sufficient concentration of money might as well have a mind of its own given the way it affects behaviour.
#9233
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,709
Money will play into it in other ways, and I'm specifically thinking about tax. This idea that you can work in the sun in a foreign country will most likely be challenged by a) visa rules and b) local tax rules. Broadly, working abroad is a no-no for personal legal rules and also from corporate ones. How does a company explain to the Spanish, for example, that it employs people who are working in Spain but not paying any Spanish employment taxes? And then, when it does pay those taxes, how does the employee explain to the Spanish that (s)he isn't paying Spanish tax on money earned while working there?
#9234
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Location: Kent, UK
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It is not, but there are time limits on how much time you can spend in different countries before you need to pay your taxes there. If you spend at least 183 days in the UK you are a tax resident, but other factors come into play if it is less which means you may or may not be paying UK tax. You will be taxed somewhere for sure.
There always have been people than can work from home which can be in the UK or overseas, but they are a minority and I think will continue to be. Companies will decide whether staff working from home will be more effective than their competitors are with staff in office.
There always have been people than can work from home which can be in the UK or overseas, but they are a minority and I think will continue to be. Companies will decide whether staff working from home will be more effective than their competitors are with staff in office.
#9235
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,709
It is not, but there are time limits on how much time you can spend in different countries before you need to pay your taxes there. If you spend at least 183 days in the UK you are a tax resident, but other factors come into play if it is less which means you may or may not be paying UK tax. You will be taxed somewhere for sure.
There always have been people than can work from home which can be in the UK or overseas, but they are a minority and I think will continue to be. Companies will decide whether staff working from home will be more effective than their competitors are with staff in office.
There always have been people than can work from home which can be in the UK or overseas, but they are a minority and I think will continue to be. Companies will decide whether staff working from home will be more effective than their competitors are with staff in office.
#9236
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Manchester, United Kingdom
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It is not, but there are time limits on how much time you can spend in different countries before you need to pay your taxes there. If you spend at least 183 days in the UK you are a tax resident, but other factors come into play if it is less which means you may or may not be paying UK tax. You will be taxed somewhere for sure.
There always have been people than can work from home which can be in the UK or overseas, but they are a minority and I think will continue to be. Companies will decide whether staff working from home will be more effective than their competitors are with staff in office.
There always have been people than can work from home which can be in the UK or overseas, but they are a minority and I think will continue to be. Companies will decide whether staff working from home will be more effective than their competitors are with staff in office.
* Quite frankly the only reason I’m inclined to stick around are that this year’s activities should be a big boost to my CV.
#9237
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Just to be clear here, I’m talking about perhaps booking two to four weeks, somewhere, where perhaps half the time is spent remote working, connected to the UK. This could all be a bit moot anyway, on two levels. Firstly, the business unit I work for was sold onto another company, last year, who have a far more robust approach to, erm, management* and are legally very risk averse. Second, the ideal type of accommodation for this type of endeavour is rather pricey at the moment as people seem to prefer something more private than a packed out hotel.
* Quite frankly the only reason I’m inclined to stick around are that this year’s activities should be a big boost to my CV.
* Quite frankly the only reason I’m inclined to stick around are that this year’s activities should be a big boost to my CV.
Friend went from loyal company man for 30+ years to a rather cynical chap and retired about a year later. So, if you do it, get it all in writing is my advice lest you fall foul of jealous types.
#9238
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Kent, UK
Programs: M&S Elite+
Posts: 3,658
Daily data:
Cases 25,696 (41,270 last Sunday)
Deaths 74 (52)
Vaccinated up to and including 19 February 2022:
First dose: 52,566,648
Second dose: 48,871,729
Booster: 37,989,163
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now down 25.5% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is down 19.3%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 144.4 today. Scotland and Wales have still not managed to provide any data for yesterday or today so we expect a jump tomorrow or whenever they can get some thing together. Today's cases figure for England/NI per head is now lower than New Zealand. We may find out tomorrow how much longer the UK can produce this sort of data assuming the PM makes the promised announcement.
Cases 25,696 (41,270 last Sunday)
Deaths 74 (52)
Vaccinated up to and including 19 February 2022:
First dose: 52,566,648
Second dose: 48,871,729
Booster: 37,989,163
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now down 25.5% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is down 19.3%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 144.4 today. Scotland and Wales have still not managed to provide any data for yesterday or today so we expect a jump tomorrow or whenever they can get some thing together. Today's cases figure for England/NI per head is now lower than New Zealand. We may find out tomorrow how much longer the UK can produce this sort of data assuming the PM makes the promised announcement.
#9239
Join Date: Nov 2013
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Daily data:
Cases 25,696 (41,270 last Sunday)
Deaths 74 (52)
Vaccinated up to and including 19 February 2022:
First dose: 52,566,648
Second dose: 48,871,729
Booster: 37,989,163
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now down 25.5% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is down 19.3%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 144.4 today. Scotland and Wales have still not managed to provide any data for yesterday or today so we expect a jump tomorrow or whenever they can get some thing together. Today's cases figure for England/NI per head is now lower than New Zealand. We may find out tomorrow how much longer the UK can produce this sort of data assuming the PM makes the promised announcement.
Cases 25,696 (41,270 last Sunday)
Deaths 74 (52)
Vaccinated up to and including 19 February 2022:
First dose: 52,566,648
Second dose: 48,871,729
Booster: 37,989,163
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now down 25.5% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is down 19.3%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 144.4 today. Scotland and Wales have still not managed to provide any data for yesterday or today so we expect a jump tomorrow or whenever they can get some thing together. Today's cases figure for England/NI per head is now lower than New Zealand. We may find out tomorrow how much longer the UK can produce this sort of data assuming the PM makes the promised announcement.
#9240
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For those interested, the Prime Minister's statement to the House of Commons on the Living with Covid plans will be about 15:30 hrs and will doubtless be covered on ParliamentTV, BBC News and BBC Parliament. There will be a press conference later, but I don't have a time for that yet.
As far as I can make out it won't address travel restrictions (or what little is left of them) since that's on a slightly different timetable for the end of the month. This depends a bit on full Cabinet which starts shortly.
As far as I can make out it won't address travel restrictions (or what little is left of them) since that's on a slightly different timetable for the end of the month. This depends a bit on full Cabinet which starts shortly.