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I did a Tube (District) and train (SWR) combo today to go to work. Half of the travellers had no mask. There were four TfL traffic enforcement ticket inspectors (?) onboard, all nicely kitted out with body cams, anti-stab vests and so on. It felt as if they were using the train to go somewhere rather than checking things onboard. Of the four of them, 2 wore no masks. At Richmond station, most staff didn't wear masks too.
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Originally Posted by alex67500
(Post 33419378)
I had my second jab of Moderna yesterday morning, and I'd seen some strong reactions from others around me, but holy moley! Shivers, fever, aches everywhere... Paracetamol didn't really work. I guess it's a sign that my immune system has kicked in, but I wasn't expecting to be down for 12 hours like that. Should I report something, or is that expected since the guide already says it'll happen in more than 1 in 10 people?
PS: KARFA batch 3003608 ;) |
Originally Posted by alex67500
(Post 33419378)
I had my second jab of Moderna yesterday morning, and I'd seen some strong reactions from others around me, but holy moley! Shivers, fever, aches everywhere... Paracetamol didn't really work. I guess it's a sign that my immune system has kicked in, but I wasn't expecting to be down for 12 hours like that. Should I report something, or is that expected since the guide already says it'll happen in more than 1 in 10 people?
PS: KARFA batch 3003608 ;) |
Originally Posted by ahmetdouas
(Post 33419253)
It's up to individual choice, let the person decide. If they want to, that's fine. If they don't want to, that's also fine.
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Originally Posted by sbs2716g
(Post 33412618)
51870 cases n 49 death today for UK
Originally Posted by ahmetdouas
(Post 33419253)
It's up to individual choice, let the person decide. If they want to, that's fine. If they don't want to, that's also fine.
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BTW, I'm rather surprised at what TFL can't do. Bylaws here allow Manchester Metrolink to levy fines for a variety of offences that are not necessarily covered by the criminal code. I assume they could add Impersonating an Egyptian if they pleased. Anyway, it's a £100 fine for not wearing a mask. I'm sure you'll get the odd Piers Corbyn type picking a fight and getting fined but suspect most will claim asthma, COPD or whatever mental health issue du jour. All rather hard to prove and enforce.
Mayor of Greater Manchester to make face coverings mandatory on UK’s largest light rail system - Greater Manchester Combined Authority (greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk) |
Originally Posted by JustTheOne
(Post 33419409)
However, it's not an individual choice with TfL, it's a condition of carriage. You may agree or disagree with that particular condition, but anyone travelling on TfL services enters into a contractual agreement with TfL, and currently one of those contractual obligations is that users should wear a mask. So you're correct that it will no longer lead to fines and it's extremely unlikely that the utterly fed up and exhausted (and I speak from experience!) TfL frontline staff are going to stop you, but it's simply not true to say it's "fine" if someone doesn't chose to wear one in this particular scenario.
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Originally Posted by JustTheOne
(Post 33419409)
However, it's not an individual choice with TfL, it's a condition of carriage. You may agree or disagree with that particular condition, but anyone travelling on TfL services enters into a contractual agreement with TfL, and currently one of those contractual obligations is that users should wear a mask. So you're correct that it will no longer lead to fines and it's extremely unlikely that the utterly fed up and exhausted (and I speak from experience!) TfL frontline staff are going to stop you, but it's simply not true to say it's "fine" if someone doesn't chose to wear one in this particular scenario.
And you don't even have to wear the badge if you don't want to. |
Originally Posted by ahmetdouas
(Post 33419441)
I am seeing a lot more exemption stickers from people who don't want the hassle of being challenged, I pretty much see it everyday now on the tube. Also outdoors, but as of today I guess ppl don't need them anymore, just for TFL stuff.
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Vaccines minister has just announced vaccinations will be offered to some 12-17 year olds.
Originally Posted by BBC
The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), which advises UK health departments on immunisation, has recommended that Covid vaccines be offered to certain groups of under-18s, vaccines minister Nadim Zahawi tells MPs.
Speaking in the Commons, Zahawi says the JCVI advises: Children aged 12 to 17 at increased risk of serious Covid – such as those with severe neurodisabilities, Down’s syndrome, or immunosuppression – should be offered the Pfizer vaccine That vaccine should also be offered to 12 to 17-year-olds who live with an immunosuppressed person And “it is considered reasonable” to offer a vaccination to those children who are within three months of their 18th birthday “to ensure good uptake of vaccine in newly-turned 18-year-olds” The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is the only vaccine that has been authorised for 12 to 17-year-olds in the UK. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-57864699 |
Well the CDC just upped the UK to level 4. This isn't good. Aren't all the bans supposed to end today in the UK?
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices...united-kingdom |
New rules announced less than 18 hours after the previous ones went into force. Consistently inconsistent.
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Originally Posted by 8mh
(Post 33419881)
New rules announced less than 18 hours after the previous ones went into force. Consistently inconsistent.
Originally Posted by BBC live feed
PM: Can't guarantee locking easing won't be reversed
Dan Hewitt from ITV asks, with so much uncertainty over infection rates and hospital admissions, won't the roadmap out of lockdown have to be reversed? The PM says he "hopes" it is irreversible but he can't guarantee that and "we have to be humble in the face of nature". There could be a new variant of the virus, he says, that we may need to respond to. We must continue to be cautious, he adds, and everyone eligible for a vaccine must come forward. |
Originally Posted by enviroian
(Post 33419756)
Well the CDC just upped the UK to level 4. This isn't good. Aren't all the bans supposed to end today in the UK?
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices...united-kingdom |
When do you all think masks will ceased to be required firstly in the airports - could be now if not crowded, and secondly on planes - I'm thinking next year at the earliest?
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