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ahmetdouas Mar 27, 2021 5:58 am


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33129793)
We better stand by for a week of selective leaking. On 5 April there are a heap of things that HMG has promised to clarify - international travel, social distancing rules, spectator sports, higher education road map, mass testing, vaccine passports. Given the Easter holiday and that Good Friday is polticially a very low profile day, they only have a few days of kite flying left.

Maybe they are being a bit careful after the pubs vaccine passport debacle!
Reminds me of the NHS tracing app where they said no app no entry so many times, but as it was not legal most places didn't bother and I never needed to have the app in practical terms.

adrianlondon Mar 27, 2021 6:17 am

I'm registered with "GP at Hand / Babylon" who emailed me a couple of months ago basically saying, re the vaccine, don't call us we'll call you. Well, they didn't. The NHS (I registered and installed the app a few weeks ago) did, and sms'd me as a 50yo to get the vaccine. I checked appointments and they were fully open every day for the following week.

I'm not in the country (as the poster above makes the point) and the cost of up to four PCR tests plus isolation to fly back for the vaccine, twice, means I'll just wait until Switzerland gets its act together. As they do the two shots 4 weeks apart here, as long as I'm vaccinated by the end of summer I'm happy. Is there any way to notify the NHS of this so that I don't affect the unvax'd stats?

VSLover Mar 27, 2021 7:41 am


Originally Posted by ahmetdouas (Post 33129998)
The thing is I think many people registered in the City and Westminster etc are not physically in the UK at the moment so would count as unvaccinated people?
Many of them have houses abroad and are likely there for the pandemic, I know quite a few ppl personally that are not here who would normally be considered UK residents.

In terms of statistics, there is a cost to being considered jetset!

i wonder this too because life in islington/the city/tower hamlets are all areas i wander through the week and it is showing life but nothing like it was. and like you said--westminster would be even more vacant.

matinicus rock Mar 27, 2021 9:15 am


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33127522)
I can vaccinate 1,000 sheep in an afternoon so of course I'm a good fit for speedy delivery of injections to humans, it's not rocket science.

Wait - you vaccinate sheep too? 😁

GregWTravels Mar 27, 2021 10:41 am


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33127965)
I interpret this as "road user", so I would ask you to stop for 15 minutes if you were going to be on a road, but not if you weren't. One of our sites is in a big park to the north of the city where things are quiet and there's a 10 mph speed limit. The other is Scotswood Road (aka A695) with a 50 mph speed limit, so I'd try to keep the cyclist back, or invite them to walk for the first 15 minutes. It's a voluntary thing actually, but everyone follows the guidance, and often stays a few minutes longer just to be safe. Walking to your vaccination is best, if you can do so.

Having heard of the 15 minute rule, I of my own accord dawdled outside of the Science Museum for a short time - maybe not 15 but probably 10 minutes - faffing with my backpack and bike lock and the like. I did ride home on Kensington High Street, which is especially unfriendly for cyclists, so glad I didn't have an reactions then. I'll walk to the next one.


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33128432)
You can also have a surgery close to your work location or on travel routes.

Has this changed? I thought you had to register with a surgery within 1 mile of our residence? With all the home working now, it's not the pain it used to be, but much would rather to have a surgery close to the office as then I can pop out for an appointment at lunch rather than having to take a day at home.

cauchy Mar 27, 2021 11:00 am


Originally Posted by GregWTravels (Post 33130382)
Has this changed? I thought you had to register with a surgery within 1 mile of our residence? With all the home working now, it's not the pain it used to be, but much would rather to have a surgery close to the office as then I can pop out for an appointment at lunch rather than having to take a day at home.

There are large parts of the country without a GP within a mile - but you will be pleased to know GPs can accept out of area registrations.

https://www.nhs.uk/nhs-services/gps/...ide-your-area/

It’s discretionary though, so experiences may vary.

paulaf Mar 27, 2021 11:28 am

My turn, here is today's data:

Cases 4,715 (5,587 last Saturday)
Deaths 58 (96)
Patients admitted 363 (361 last Saturday)
Patients on ventilation 615 (787 on the 20th)
Latest data on patients in hospital 4,560

1st dose vaccs 411,305, 2nd dose vaccs 283,654 good day.

Now 4 tier traffic light system being talked about red/amber/yellow/green.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...mmer-holidays/

DaveS Mar 27, 2021 11:44 am


Originally Posted by paulaf (Post 33130537)
My turn, here is today's data:

Cases 4,715 (5,587 last Saturday)
Deaths 58 (96)
Patients admitted 363 (361 last Saturday)
Patients on ventilation 615 (787 on the 20th)
Latest data on patients in hospital 4,560

1st dose vaccs 411,305, 2nd dose vaccs 283,654 good day.

Now 4 tier traffic light system being talked about red/amber/yellow/green.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...mmer-holidays/

I did try posting this at the same time as you, but it magically disappeared into the ether(net). There has been a data revision today. 850 cases were removed from today's cases after a lab reported void tests as positive. It brings down the percentage rise in the 7 day rolling figure to 4% over the previous week. The patients admitted figure should be compared with the 16th because of the delay in reporting. So that becomes a more respectable 363 (439). For ventilation, it should be compared with the 19th - 615 (830). The healthcare data continues to look good.

DaveS Mar 27, 2021 11:48 am


Originally Posted by matinicus rock (Post 33130248)
Wait - you vaccinate sheep too? 😁

Sheep, unsuspecting Japanese tourists... No one is safe!

Silver Fox Mar 27, 2021 11:48 am

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And.....breathe out.................. :)

13901 Mar 27, 2021 11:49 am


Originally Posted by matinicus rock (Post 33130248)
Wait - you vaccinate sheep too? 😁

To paraphrase from Prince Philip, “If it has got four legs and it is not a chair, if it has got two wings and it flies but is not an aeroplane, and if it swims and it is not a submarine, corporate-wage-slave will vaccinate it”.

corporate-wage-slave Mar 27, 2021 12:08 pm


Originally Posted by VSLover (Post 33129909)
what i am unclear on is are these percents based on those invited? for example if islington (my council) is only 14% under 50, that makes sense given under 50s are not technically meant to be invited yet...but was just curious if it was of the total population in the council or percent uptake only of those invited/technically eligible

No it based on estimated total population, and indeed it's worth me clarifying this. The Office for National Statistics produces stats on population, by age band, by Upper Tier (so County Council, unitary authorities, London boroughs), by Lower Tier (typically district and borough councils under a county council) and finally the superbly named Middle-layer Super Output Areas (MSOA) which are a few parishes of 4-12 thousand souls. Swiss Cottage, Primrose Hill and Chalk Farm are 3 separate but neighbouring MSOAs. The numbers that I used in that summary were based on Lower Tier population estimates, but they are transparently becoming inaccurate, since some ares have vaccinated 105% of the the age band. So clearly the population estimate is wrong, perhaps where people have moved home, and we are at maximum remove from the last Census.


Originally Posted by ahmetdouas (Post 33129998)
The thing is I think many people registered in the City and Westminster etc are not physically in the UK at the moment so would count as unvaccinated people?
Many of them have houses abroad and are likely there for the pandemic, I know quite a few ppl personally that are not here who would normally be considered UK residents.

And this leads in to your correct assumption, we know some places are particularly badly out. So in Westminster a lot of people live in hostels and shared houses run by the hospitality industry, specifically hotels. In some cases they have used the hotel as their mailing address but live somewhere in Zone 2 or 3. Then there are people at the other end of the social scale, perhaps living in the Barbican, City of London, who have an address or family home in the country. So we can guess which they would be living at the moment.

I haven't found a good way to put all the data out, but if there are any specific queries about particularly areas I'm happy to answer them.

corporate-wage-slave Mar 27, 2021 12:49 pm


Originally Posted by adrianlondon (Post 33130020)
As they do the two shots 4 weeks apart here, as long as I'm vaccinated by the end of summer I'm happy. Is there any way to notify the NHS of this so that I don't affect the unvax'd stats?

I wouldn't worry, I did vaccinate some 70 year olds today, and plenty born in the 1950s, who presumably wanted a bit more time to think about being vaccinated. I would stay as you are, and see what we hear in the next week or so, before making a decision. There is a good chance that CH will be a Green country, so it may suit you to have a UK vaccine in a few weeks. In any case, you won't automatically be labelled as a wierd conspiracy theorist just because you seem slow to get the jab. For example those recently recovered from Covid need to wait 4 weeks before they can get the vaccine.

corporate-wage-slave Mar 27, 2021 12:58 pm

The 7 and 14 day stats are still looking ok.

7 day cumulative infections per 100k = 58.30, yesterday 59.61, last Saturday 57.08
14 day cumulative infections per 100k = 114.38, yesterday 115.61, last Saturday 116.69

Rolling 7 day death rate 64, yesterday 70, last Saturday 94

Vaccinated at least first dose = 56.09% of adults on Friday, Thursday was 55.31%, last Friday 50.67%, vaccinations are reported the next day after injection.

KSVVZ2015 Mar 28, 2021 3:56 am

Various sources reporting “no holidays till August” this morning. Reading the (not great) reporting of Gov sources it would seem to suggest that this isn’t necessarily saying the intl travel ban will be extended through July but more that a traffic light system is going to have little or no green at first and this besides Israel (which was quoted as an example) there may be few holiday options for package tours and quarantine free travel. That’s my read at least.


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