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paulaf Mar 25, 2021 12:29 pm

No surprise here, but Hankie did get some heat in the Commons.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...onths-12256531

DaveS Mar 25, 2021 2:08 pm

Some data for today:

Cases 6,397 (6,303 last Thursday)
Deaths 63 (95)
Hospital admissions 354 (425 on the 14th)
Patients on ventilation 683 (925 on the 17th)

To give the hospital admissions some perspective, from the last figures I could find from about 3 years ago, more than 44,000 patients are admitted for all reasons on an average day. The rolling 7 day cases is still down 2% on the previous week, but it looks like that might be heading slightly upwards soon unless something changes in the next day or two.

Internaut Mar 25, 2021 2:17 pm


Originally Posted by DaveS (Post 33126253)
Some data for today:

Cases 6,397 (6,303 last Thursday)
Deaths 63 (95)
Hospital admissions 354 (425 on the 14th)
Patients on ventilation 683 (925 on the 17th)

To give the hospital admissions some perspective, from the last figures I could find from about 3 years ago, more than 44,000 patients are admitted for all reasons on an average day. The rolling 7 day cases is still down 2% on the previous week, but it looks like that might be heading slightly upwards soon unless something changes in the next day or two.

Looks like they're keeping case rates relatively flat and deaths quite dramatically downwards!

Internaut Mar 25, 2021 2:18 pm


Originally Posted by KSVVZ2015 (Post 33125839)
85% against death seems low. Curious if its a function of a result of (i) single vs. double dose, (ii) people becoming infected before or just after vaccination, or (iii) something else. But I guess my understanding was that the vaccines were nearly universally effective at preventing death (though again, that may require 2 doses + 3 weeks).

Everything I've read about AZ suggests near as damnit 100% in preventing hospitalisation and deaths. The other vaccines seem a little ahead in the stopping you from getting it at all metric.

S_W_S Mar 25, 2021 2:21 pm


Originally Posted by YorkieFlyer (Post 33111084)
I booked Mrs Yorkieflyer in there on the national NHS website, she’s 50 and group 9, earlier date than Askham bar. You will only get in the clinically vulnerable list by persuading the GP I imagine but as we all know they are all working at home and the surgery’s are now triaging us away from even a phone appointment, so good luck trying to see a GP! As an aside, I genuinely wonder how many life threatening illnesses are going undiagnosed while they avoid the great unwashed? Credit due on the other hand to my brilliant dentist who said he didn’t have long enough arms to work from home 😀

Well this worked, thanks!

Used my GPs econsult to drop them a message last Friday, a call back on Monday evening then a booking link on Tuesday morning. Just returned from Askham bar having received the AZ vaccine.

I couldn't believe how well organised it all was though! No queues at this time, so straight into the Park and Ride, booking SMS checked then directed to the red tent once parked up. No queues to check in, then just a short wait to be called forward for the jab. Though they did seem to have an issue finding me on the laptop in the booth! I did offer my NHS number but they said it wasn't needed.
Now just to wait for the text in 11 weeks time!

GUWonder Mar 25, 2021 2:24 pm


Originally Posted by lhrsfo (Post 33125993)
Boris is visiting India in a few days time and I have no doubt it's very high on the agenda - no point shouting about it in advance of the visit.

I would be very surprised if this hasn't come up in advance of his visit, as there is usually a choreographed element to what happens on the visits of British PMs to Delhi when it comes to substantive matters for deliverables. Maybe he'll come back with a plane full of vaccine doses and/or a pledge of doses that each side will play in their own way. Either way, I doubt that it changes the ground game in the UK very quickly.

corporate-wage-slave Mar 25, 2021 2:28 pm


Originally Posted by Akoz (Post 33125415)
Has there been any indication in % terms in the April supply reduction? I realise that there is a large number of people that will require dose No. 2 and that booking are not being taken for new appointments, but I was just interested in scale of the supply drop and thus the impact of 1st jabs and schedules going forward.

This has been my busiest week, last week was my second busiest week, and next week will be my equal second busiest week. So the vaccine supply restriction isn't obvious yet. However we are doing more Pfizer next week after doing nearly 90% AZ the last 2 weeks.

fransknorge Mar 25, 2021 2:31 pm

To the people who got their jab in UK, how does it work to get an appointment online ? Is there a portal and a process from beginning to end that is online ?
This is just curiosity on my part to compare. I started the process in Germany and the beginning is an online portal but this is just to register with some basic information, the remaining part, including defining the date of the jab, is via snail mail.

paulaf Mar 25, 2021 2:33 pm


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33126305)
This has been my busiest week, last week was my second busiest week, and next week will be my equal second busiest week. So the vaccine supply restriction isn't obvious yet. However we are doing more Pfizer next week after doing nearly 90% AZ the last 2 weeks.

So yours isn't one of the centres closing soon then?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-February.html

cauchy Mar 25, 2021 3:05 pm


Originally Posted by lhrsfo (Post 33125993)
Boris is visiting India in a few days time and I have no doubt it's very high on the agenda - no point shouting about it in advance of the visit.

I imagine that everything's for sale at the right price.

The Independent is saying it's at the end of next month, though perhaps it has been moved earlier?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1817858.html

corporate-wage-slave Mar 25, 2021 3:05 pm


Originally Posted by fransknorge (Post 33126311)
To the people who got their jab in UK, how does it work to get an appointment online ? Is there a portal and a process from beginning to end that is online ?
This is just curiosity on my part to compare. I started the process in Germany and the beginning is an online portal but this is just to register with some basic information, the remaining part, including defining the date of the jab, is via snail mail.

Goodness! The England system is two sided, but they sort-of talk to each other. The national list, which pushes people to big national vaccination centres and pharmacies, involves someone entering their date of birth and NHS number. They may get a letter or text to invite them specifically to get a jab, but they don't really need that, they can check the website at any time, and if they are not eligible they are told to wait until later. If they are in a group eligible for the jab - currently everyone over 50 - then they are referred to their nearest national centre / pharmacy. They get a list of slots and agree to it, and then that's it really.

GPs are doing most vaccinations, and they have their own systems but the most usual scenario is that you get a text message from a GP and this then clicks through to a GP hub plan on a website. Now if the GPs are ahead of the national system, they will be sending text messages out to people before they are eligible for the national system, so currently 45 years plus, and therefore that crosses them off the national system. GP centres are normally closer to people compared to national centres.

I think the key factor is that once you enter your NHS number, they know your age, generally accurately know your medical history, often know if you are (e.g.) a carer for someone, but that one isn't always accurate, particularly for people informally caring for their parents or a sick close relative. My understanding is that data priviacy in Germany means they end up asking you information which you may feel they ought to know already.

corporate-wage-slave Mar 25, 2021 3:08 pm


Originally Posted by paulaf (Post 33126316)
So yours isn't one of the centres closing soon then?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-February.html

Both our sites are running at just under top speed next week at least. It's not entirely clear but I suspect these are national centres rather than GP led centres.

Dan1113 Mar 25, 2021 4:21 pm

Does the growth in Pfizer mean a switch to more second doses?

corporate-wage-slave Mar 25, 2021 4:25 pm

Possibly, but I will find out more next week.

DaveS Mar 25, 2021 10:55 pm


Originally Posted by fransknorge (Post 33126311)
To the people who got their jab in UK, how does it work to get an appointment online ? Is there a portal and a process from beginning to end that is online ?
This is just curiosity on my part to compare. I started the process in Germany and the beginning is an online portal but this is just to register with some basic information, the remaining part, including defining the date of the jab, is via snail mail.

C-W-S give you the details of the process. It really is very easy from a user point of view. You just enter your NHS number or other details and if entitled can book an appointment. You get offered a list of places with available times. In my case I took one in the neighbouring town to get it sooner.


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