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TropicalTripper Jul 24, 2011 9:24 am


Originally Posted by roulette (Post 16787061)
My wife and I just applied for GE. We have our interview at ATL on Aug 5th. I am reading recent posts about people who are in GE but are applying for the GE card on GOES. What is the difference? What does the card do that general GE membership does not? Do I need to request a card while at the interview? I am confused!!

Up until very recently GE was a no-card program. The kiosks identify you by your passport and biometrics. I want to say that within the last month, CBP started issuing cards to folks whose GE applications were approved. It's my understanding that GE members can use this for NEXUS immigration when returning from Canada, whereas before GE users didn't enjoy any special benefits on those trans-border flights.

The reason you're hearing about people applying for the cards now is because people who were authorized into the GE program before they started issuing cards aren't going to automatically receive cards. So they have to pay a $15 application fee to have them issued. One might do this if they travel back and forth to Canada enough to make the $15 expenditure worthwhile. Also, I think there is some speculation that the cards might be necessary when the TSA trusted traveler program starts its roll-out later this year, since supposedly GE, SENTRI, and NEXUS members will be able to opt into the program.

If you and your wife just applied, you will both get cards automatically if you are both approved.

gordondd9 Jul 24, 2011 11:13 am

Absolutely worth the effort. My experience documented here
http://www.perrygolf.com/blog/2011/0...th-the-effort/

ESpen36 Jul 24, 2011 8:49 pm


Originally Posted by gordondd9 (Post 16788006)
Absolutely worth the effort. My experience documented here
http://www.perrygolf.com/blog/2011/0...th-the-effort/


Good article. You might want to correct the name of the program to be "Global Entry," not "Global Traveler."

FlyingHoustonian Jul 25, 2011 8:01 am

received "conditional approval" e-mail this morning, and about 2 minutes later received "approval" e-mail for the CARD. I applied for the CARD the middle of last week so it took less than 4 business days for my approval, even with slight changes from my initial GE application back in July of 2008.

Now I'll see how long the card takes to arrive.

goingbananas Jul 25, 2011 11:23 am


Originally Posted by TropicalTripper (Post 16787370)
If you and your wife just applied, you will both get cards automatically if you are both approved.

Applied on 07/14 with the $15 charge to get the GE card (already GE for 2 years).

Today, I got my conditional approval, immediately followed by the approval letter.

Waiting for the card to arrive in the mail now. :)

Majuki Jul 25, 2011 1:38 pm

It seems like a batch of approvals happened today. I also just got my "conditional approval" followed by the approval message. I had applied on Tuesday or Wednesday last week. I will report back when I receive the card in the mail.

fordan Jul 25, 2011 4:07 pm


Originally Posted by TropicalTripper (Post 16787370)
Also, I think there is some speculation that the cards might be necessary when the TSA trusted traveler program starts its roll-out later this year, since supposedly GE, SENTRI, and NEXUS members will be able to opt into the program.

No card will be needed for the TSA program based on what's on their website.

http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/expedited_screening.shtm


Q. What do participants need to do?
A. Members of CBP’s Global Entry program are assigned a participant ID. To participate in TSA’s pilot program, these passengers must place their CBP participant ID in the ‘Known Traveler Number’ field while booking their reservations. That number is then passed to TSA’s Secure Flight system and taken into consideration during the pre-screening processing.

Selected frequent flyers will ‘opt-in’ through their airline’s system to participate in TSA’s program. Under this process the passenger will not need to input a Known Traveler number during the reservation process. Once the passenger opts-in, the airline identifies the individual as a participant when submitting the passenger reservation information to TSA’s Secure Flight system.

Q. Will participants get a membership card or something to shows they have been cleared for expedited screening?
A. No. Passengers who volunteer will be pre-screened each time they fly. At no point would participation automatically qualify a passenger for permanent, expedited screening. Passengers are always subject to random, unpredictable screening measures.
So you don't need the card for TSA, and it won't help. You put your Global Entry number in the known traveler field when making a reservation, and your boarding pass will (once your airport/airline supports it) have a bar code that'll determine whether you go through the normal line or expedited line. The Global Entry card is good for inbound (but not outbound) NEXUS lines from Canada, and inbound SENTRI lines from Mexico, but only if you're not in a car (unless you get your car inspected).

GoingAway Jul 25, 2011 4:10 pm

This means that they are requiring more change from the already stressed airline IT departments :(. This is going nowhere for awhile

jcf27 Jul 25, 2011 4:34 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingHoustonian (Post 16792776)
received "conditional approval" e-mail this morning, and about 2 minutes later received "approval" e-mail for the CARD. I applied for the CARD the middle of last week so it took less than 4 business days for my approval, even with slight changes from my initial GE application back in July of 2008.

Now I'll see how long the card takes to arrive.

Same here. Got both emails mid morning today(Monday). Applied for the card earlier last week.

--J

TropicalTripper Jul 25, 2011 4:49 pm


Originally Posted by Majuki (Post 16794778)
It seems like a batch of approvals happened today. I also just got my "conditional approval" followed by the approval message. I had applied on Tuesday or Wednesday last week. I will report back when I receive the card in the mail.

I submitted the card applications for my wife and I within minutes of each other on 7/18 and my wife got her approval notice today and I'm still 'pending review'. Hrmph. Nothing changed on either of our applications since we applied via GOES on 3/30 and received approval in May. Hopefully just an oversight and I'll get approved soon.

fordan Jul 25, 2011 5:24 pm


Originally Posted by GoingAway (Post 16795926)
This means that they are requiring more change from the already stressed airline IT departments :(. This is going nowhere for awhile

Don't most of them already collect that info? I know it prompts me when I make a reservation on US Airways' website to verify the TSA Secure Flight info, and it includes a redress # and known traveler # already. They'll have to set it up to print or not print the barcode, but I can't see them holding this back, especially since it's a great perk the airlines can offer their elites (you don't need Global Entry to get into the TSA system, just that if you are in GE you are also automatically in the TSA program now as well, plus NEXUS & SENTRI inbound).

GoingAway Jul 25, 2011 6:12 pm


Originally Posted by fordan (Post 16796364)
Don't most of them already collect that info? I know it prompts me when I make a reservation on US Airways' website to verify the TSA Secure Flight info, and it includes a redress # and known traveler # already. They'll have to set it up to print or not print the barcode, but I can't see them holding this back, especially since it's a great perk the airlines can offer their elites (you don't need Global Entry to get into the TSA system, just that if you are in GE you are also automatically in the TSA program now as well, plus NEXUS & SENTRI inbound).

Not redress, but a known traveler number ... Figuring they require a separate field, esp as the airlines have code to protect redress unless you say yes to the do you have a redress number question. A change is rqd, just a matter of what it will be

OnAMileHigh Jul 25, 2011 9:24 pm

My first attempt to use Global Entry yesterday at LAX was a huge disappointment. The kiosk worked fine until i received the big black X on my receipt. I was then escorted to a waiting area where I sat for 20 minutes.

When a CBP agent finally arrived I got the full on bag inspection. Everything was removed and searched. The CBP agent asked "how many times have you been arrested" ummm like none. I would not have GE if I had an arrest record. The agent then proceeded to comment on my medications. He mockingly said "you take a lot of medications" duh. I have a medical condition that requires daily medications to control. I thought the agent's comments and tone were highly unprofessional and inappropriate. Finally, the agent finished his inspection and then had me sit in a holding area while he went to discuss "my case" with his supervisor.

Finally the agent returned and said "we will let let you go this time, now get out of here".

.... I Thought GE was going make my life easier not subject me to more CBP BS.

edcho Jul 25, 2011 9:27 pm


Originally Posted by OnAMileHigh (Post 16797607)
My first attempt to use Global Entry yesterday at LAX was a huge disappointment. The kiosk worked fine until i received the big black X on my receipt. I was then escorted to a waiting area where I sat for 20 minutes.

When a CBP agent finally arrived I got the full on bag inspection. Everything was removed and searched. The CBP agent asked "how many times have you been arrested" ummm like none. I would not have GE if I had an arrest record. The agent then proceeded to comment on my medications. He mockingly said "you take a lot of medications" duh. I have a medical condition that requires daily medications to control. I thought the agent's comments and tone were highly unprofessional and inappropriate. Finally, the agent finished his inspection and then had me sit in a holding area while he went to discuss "my case" with his supervisor.

Finally the agent returned and said "we will let let you go this time, now get out of here".

.... I Thought GE was going make my life easier not subject me to more CBP BS.

Have any idea why you got the big black X?

FriendlySkies Jul 25, 2011 9:31 pm


Originally Posted by OnAMileHigh (Post 16797607)
.... I Thought GE was going make my life easier not subject me to more CBP BS.

Sorry to hear about the bag dump/bad treatment.. Out of curiosity, where were you flying from?

As far as the search, having GE does not exempt you from searches.


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