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drewguy Aug 16, 2011 8:15 am


Originally Posted by wxguy (Post 16930208)
Arriving IAD today from FCO in UA/F; went to the GE terminal and was out into baggage claim in record time - maybe 30 seconds at most at the machine. It was a 30-minute wait for the luggage, however :( I walked to the exit lane where the officer usually looks at the GE form and waves me by. But for the first time in perhaps 20 uses, he writes "GECC" on the form in green marker, and sends me into the ag search area.

I hand my GE form to the officer, and he says, "What are you doing here?" I reply, "I don't know - your colleague sent me here." He said, "I guess it's a random." He took my passport, and typed a bunch of stuff into his computer. He then asked me a series of questions (where did you come from, do you have any prohibited foods, do you have more than $10,000). Then he asked me to put my bags on the table. I had three - a check-in, and roll-aboard, and my laptop bag. He unzipped the roll-aboard and poked in one corner then closed it. He opened my laptop bag and peeked inside. He did not touch my check-in -- just said, "Good bye."

It really wasn't that bad, but I hope it's my last random for a while. I still love GE!

Same thing happened to me in late July at IAD. The CBP officer to whom I handed the GE ticket told me it was random, and I got only the ag screening. Biggest annoyance was having to wait for the Ag screeners to get done inputing whatever they were doing rather than handling me. Asked about food, and I told them gum (abundance of caution). Put my bags on a belt and away I went.

GoingAway Aug 18, 2011 11:31 am

Received an email from DHS today trumpeting the Global Entry Card and the procedure to get one.

asya999 Aug 18, 2011 6:30 pm


Originally Posted by fishferbrains (Post 16925847)
Yes it's normal to wait in line and have an officer verify your receipt. It shouldn't take more than a minute or so (depending on how busy the crew line is). Don't rush past them or you're bound to tick them off.

Depending on how you answer the kiosk questions s/he may ask further follow-up questions or send you to customs if you exceed declarative limits.

It pays to be both friendly and patient.

Actually, it hasn't been normal at all at five different entry points I've used GE at. This isn't the officer standing at the exit from immigration area - you're talking about standing in line for an immigration officer *after* using aGE kiosk and not getting an X?

I've never heard of such a thing.

DCBob Aug 18, 2011 6:45 pm


Originally Posted by asya999 (Post 16950353)
Actually, it hasn't been normal at all at five different entry points I've used GE at. This isn't the officer standing at the exit from immigration area - you're talking about standing in line for an immigration officer *after* using aGE kiosk and not getting an X?

I've never heard of such a thing.

I agree. The only line I have ever waited in after the kiosk was Customs after picking up my checked bags.

doglover Aug 19, 2011 12:52 am

Received an email this morning announcing that Global Entry terminals are now installed at several Canadian airports which was timely since I was returning from Ottawa this afternoon.

The DHS in YOW doesn't seem to understand the program. I got .....ed out for not filling out the declaration paperwork. I told him, um that's not how global entry works dude. The agent responded we're in canada and we just do it different here.

He wanted me to go back through the full line, fill in the paperwork and then come back!! Clearly the YOW team needs training in how the program works.

Fortunately I had my 90% filled out card in my passport (per the training from the interview) and I just signed it and filled in the flight # and handed it to him right there.

If you're coming through Canada be prepared for clueless agents.

Majuki Aug 19, 2011 5:20 am


Originally Posted by asya999 (Post 16950353)
Actually, it hasn't been normal at all at five different entry points I've used GE at. This isn't the officer standing at the exit from immigration area - you're talking about standing in line for an immigration officer *after* using aGE kiosk and not getting an X?

I've never heard of such a thing.

The one time I came in at SFO there was an officer verifying receipts and customs forms before getting to the baggage carousels. It was a particularly light day though, so I don't know if this is standard, but SFO is the only place where I had to show the receipt twice. I've only used GE at ORD and LAX besides SFO, and at those two airports I only had to show the receipt as I was exiting the customs hall and turning in the receipt to the CBP officer.

izzik Aug 21, 2011 4:52 pm


Originally Posted by ESpen36 (Post 16931868)
Actually, as a GlobalEntry member in good standing, you don't have to worry about mints, candies, cookies, chocolates, etc. The kiosk declaration questions have been changed so that the term "food" no longer appears. Instead, it asks about specific kinds of restricted foods like items of plant origin, fruit, veggies, etc. Essentially, CBP is trusting us to know what kinds of food need to be declared.

Note, however, that if the kiosks are not working, or if you enter at a FIS facility that does not have GE kiosks, you are required to fill out the standard paper declaration which DOES use the generalized term "food," so you must check "Yes" if you have ANYTHING that can be consumed as food. If you don't and they decide to search you, you could risk huge fines and revocation of your Trusted Traveler status.

They were crystal clear with me on this point at my interview: if you EVER are caught smuggling once granted Trusted Traveler membership, they will throw the book at you.

Or....just don't bring in any food! :)

Okay, I'm 99% certain that even though it says "food" on the blue form, pre-packaged goods are fine. Chewing gum is fine. Coffee and tea are fine. Fresh fruit is not fine. A suitcase filled with zebra meat is not fine.

If you really have trouble determining what's fine and not fine for the food question, think of whether the item would pass as a Duty Free purchase.

izzik Aug 21, 2011 4:55 pm


Originally Posted by mechteach (Post 16882171)
I am so grateful for this thread (and GE!). I had an early morning flight from YYZ to DCA yesterday morning, and when I entered the customs/passport area, the line filled all of the available space. From the discussion on here, I knew that I could go straight to the Nexus line. There were still 4 people in front of me, but as I chatted with a guy standing adjacent in the regular line, he had been waiting for an hour, so I'll take my 5 minute wait any time.

Same here. Used the Crew Line at YYZ Terminal 1. Regular line was a couple rows deep at noon. Crew line had 2 other ppl in it. Very awesome.
Still not sure why they don't put a sign saying "Global Entry". Go figure.

ESpen36 Aug 21, 2011 7:25 pm


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 16966566)
Okay, I'm 99% certain that even though it says "food" on the blue form, pre-packaged goods are fine. Chewing gum is fine. Coffee and tea are fine. Fresh fruit is not fine. A suitcase filled with zebra meat is not fine.

If you really have trouble determining what's fine and not fine for the food question, think of whether the item would pass as a Duty Free purchase.


It is not a question of which foods are "fine" and which are not; the question is whether you must declare, and if using the blue form, the answer is YES.

I would agree with your assessment of those specific items. However, in order to comply with U.S. Customs regulations when using the blue paper form, you still MUST DECLARE ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING you are carrying that could be consumed as food, EVEN IF you know those items are permitted. Not to declare is to risk huge fines and red flags on your record if they decide to search you and find undeclared items, even if they are permitted items. Declare means declare, period. When I used to bring in cookies using the paper declaration form and checked "yes," the officer would ask me "what food?" and I would hold up my bag of cookies. The officer stamped the form and off I went. That's the way to do it.


One huge advantage of GlobalEntry is that you do NOT have to declare anything and everything that can be consumed as food. Instead, the kiosk asks more specifically about fruit, meat, etc. In other words, the government trusts you to know what kinds of things need to be declared. Not so for the average traveler using the paper declaration form.


I suspect that a large number of frequent travelers put themselves at risk every day by not declaring permitted food items for the sake of convenience. If I were you, I would not make that mistake. A lie of omission is still a lie, which in this case also happens to be a federal offense. All it would take is one random secondary inspection (discovering undeclared items) and you could face unpleasant entries to the USA for a long time in the future--again, EVEN IF THOSE ITEMS WERE PERMITTED. If the form asks about it, you must answer truthfully.

Derek Aug 22, 2011 5:07 am


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 16966566)
Okay, I'm 99% certain that even though it says "food" on the blue form, pre-packaged goods are fine.

But you are 99% wrong. Food is food; don't declare it on the blue form and get caught, you open up a whole world of hurt. There is plenty of discussion on the Nexus thread about declaring a mint or a piece of chocolate. One guideline is if it leaves your body as solid waste, declare it. If it leaves your body as liquid waste, do not.

backdoc Aug 22, 2011 8:23 am

It happend to me at LAX Terminal 2
 
There is a lane that you must go though right after the kiosk at Terminal 2 where an officer checked my receipt. I thought it odd... <shrug>

This was March 29, 2011 Terminal 2




Originally Posted by asya999 (Post 16950353)
Actually, it hasn't been normal at all at five different entry points I've used GE at. This isn't the officer standing at the exit from immigration area - you're talking about standing in line for an immigration officer *after* using aGE kiosk and not getting an X?

I've never heard of such a thing.


FlyingHoustonian Aug 22, 2011 9:31 am

Yesterday at EWR Term C (where there were only four kiosks, one of which was broken) at final bag exit they only took the receipt no passport check. last week IAH still checking all passports, albeit quickly, upon exit of the no checked bag kiosk area. Love the program, but it does seem that different airports are still doing things a bit differently several years into this.

Xyzzy Aug 22, 2011 12:08 pm


Originally Posted by Derek (Post 16969110)
But you are 99% wrong.

No -- it's 100% wrong. The blue form asks about food. If you have any food and use the blue form you must declare it. Now, I've used the blue form and written on it that I had cookies or chocolate, etc. and had that crossed off by the inspector. I've then been told not to bother telling them of things that I knew were okay on the blue form and to just check, "no." But, as noted above, if I followed that advice and I were subsequently searched and found to have food I'd be making a false declaration. That w:(uld be bad(TM). The GE kiosk has a different food question for just this reason.

Derek Aug 22, 2011 1:35 pm


Originally Posted by Xyzzy (Post 16971554)
No -- it's 100% wrong.

He was 99% sure that it was ok, so 1% sure it was not. He was thus 99% incorrect, and 1% correct.

Starman Aug 23, 2011 4:46 pm

Newbie GE question: do I ever need the wallet card outside of Canada/Mexico travel??
 
I've tried to read all 148 pages of this thread but may well have missed it. I'm a GE newbie -- have had my interview, rehersed with the practice kiosk, and received the wallet card with the RFID chip, so apparently everything is now live. What I'm trying to understand is, other than ground travel returning from Canada/Mexico, do I ever actually need the wallet card? The documentation that comes with it is vague on this point. I had assumed all that is need for use of the kiosk for an air arrival into the US was a passport, and the wallet card stays home unless you are making a surface return to the US -- is this right?


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