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emcampbe Jun 5, 2009 9:53 am

Not to mention, US airlines require a passport as ID when leaving the US and I have had very limited success in getting them to accept a Nexus card for that. And more recently, I've had trouble using them at AC too. And, contrary to what might seem logical, the check in kiosk's I have tried to get to read the data on the back of the Nexus card won't read them - even though it seems identical to the data it reads from a passport (though I don't know if I have tried with the new card).

lcohen999 Jun 5, 2009 9:54 am

I will ask this question time and time again, why would anyone want to be in a foreign country (yes, the US is a foreign country) without a passport.

It just does not make any sense

Lurker1999 Jun 10, 2009 12:55 pm

Does anyone here have experience appealing a Nexus denial?

My friend was denied during the interview in YVR by the Canadian officer because he responded to reasons for travel as pleasure and business. Since my friend is self-employed he doesn't have an employer and the line of questioning then came down to the officer reasoning that my friend would use Nexus to avoid obtaining a work visa to enter Canada. The issue of his ethnicity and dual citizenship also came up. The officer shares an ethnic background with my friend and asked him why he did not renounce his other citizenship when he had a US passport. He then demanded to see my friend's other passport, birth certificate and naturalization papers which he had not brought along since he used a US passport for admissability and citizenship proof on the GOES application.

The US officer cleared him and there were no other issues.

goaliemn Jun 10, 2009 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by Lurker1999 (Post 11886229)
My friend was denied during the interview in YVR by the Canadian officer because he responded to reasons for travel as pleasure and business.

I think that may have done him in. Canada is very careful about people having work visas, not saying other countries don't watch it as well. I don't know if you can appeal it at this point. The only thing I could think of is if he uses the non-nexus lines when coming in for business. I remember something about that when I applied. I had to pick a reason for travel, and if it changed, I was to use the standard lines.

28isGreat Jun 10, 2009 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by goaliemn (Post 11886328)
I think that may have done him in. Canada is very careful about people having work visas, not saying other countries don't watch it as well. I don't know if you can appeal it at this point. The only thing I could think of is if he uses the non-nexus lines when coming in for business. I remember something about that when I applied. I had to pick a reason for travel, and if it changed, I was to use the standard lines.

I hold a TN "status" (essentially visa) to work only for my currently employer in the U.S., and of course this is recorded on my Nexus records. It made the issue of "why do you want nexus?" very easy to answer!

They said I would have to inform them immediately if the TN status expires or is invalidated (by no longer being employed by the company), but said that wouldn't disqualify me from keeping membership.

I'll believe it when the time comes! :)

Lurker1999 Jun 10, 2009 1:45 pm


Originally Posted by goaliemn (Post 11886328)
I think that may have done him in. Canada is very careful about people having work visas, not saying other countries don't watch it as well. I don't know if you can appeal it at this point. The only thing I could think of is if he uses the non-nexus lines when coming in for business. I remember something about that when I applied. I had to pick a reason for travel, and if it changed, I was to use the standard lines.

I think in this case it was my friend being "too honest" as he has never worked with a client outside the US and has no business plans to work in Canada. The denial letter came with an address to write an ombudsman but it's a US address. It addressed inaccurate information which could apply to this situation where the Canadian officer misinterpreted my friend's statements.

My friend's impression was that it had to do more with the Canadian officer and his shared ethnicity. He felt the line of questioning turned distinctly antagonistic after he acknowledged he was a dual citizen but never travelled under anything except his US passport since he doesn't even have a physical passport book from his other country currently.

Icechick88 Jun 10, 2009 4:17 pm

Nexus and lost passport
 
If you report your passport missing can you still use your nexus to cross the border?

mre5765 Jun 10, 2009 6:19 pm


Originally Posted by lcohen999 (Post 11860519)
I will ask this question time and time again, why would anyone want to be in a foreign country (yes, the US is a foreign country) without a passport.

It just does not make any sense

Big hassle to get a Canadian passport in the past. Apparently it is now easier.

emcampbe Jun 10, 2009 9:34 pm


Originally Posted by Icechick88 (Post 11887331)
If you report your passport missing can you still use your nexus to cross the border?

I highly doubt it. Your nexus is connected to your passport, which you gave them at sign up. If you reported your passport missing, I would assume you would be flagged. I don't have any personal experience, but would be wiling to bet $ that u will be sent to secondary and have problems there. You need to get a new passport before travelling, and you also need to go into a nexus office and update them with that info. If you are on the US side and can't get to an office first, you need to use the regular line.

LessO2 Jun 11, 2009 8:29 am


Originally Posted by Icechick88 (Post 11887331)
If you report your passport missing can you still use your nexus to cross the border?

No. Conditions of using NEXUS is that you have the card and Passport with you at all times.

When I was CANPASS, my Passport expired and I got a new Passport. First trip into Canada they stopped me. While they never said why after asking, it was clear they just wanted to get my new Passport and get the number for their records. Thus, I'm pretty sure you'll get nabbed.

28isGreat Jun 11, 2009 8:50 am


Originally Posted by Icechick88 (Post 11887331)
If you report your passport missing can you still use your nexus to cross the border?

As others have said, no. However, your Nexus card will be a lovely document to have in hand when you go to the consulate/embassy to get an emergency replacement! Along with a photocopy of your passport photo page. You always carry that too, right? :D

fly-yul Jun 11, 2009 10:09 am


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 11888696)
Your nexus is connected to your passport...

For most people yes, but you can apply for nexus without a passport by using a birth certificate.

goaliemn Jun 11, 2009 1:07 pm


Originally Posted by fly-yul (Post 11891116)
For most people yes, but you can apply for nexus without a passport by using a birth certificate.

Maybe for entry into Canada.. from my understanding, the US requires a passport for entry and its trusted traveler programs.

InTheAirGuy Jun 11, 2009 1:34 pm

My wife and sons have been approved.

They are 13 and 14.

She has an interview at noon; they have scheduled the two sons together 20 minutes later.

What can we expect the children to be asked? Anyone go through this process with kids?

fly-yul Jun 11, 2009 9:16 pm


Originally Posted by goaliemn (Post 11892156)
Maybe for entry into Canada.. from my understanding, the US requires a passport for entry and its trusted traveler programs.

An unusual case, but my daughter had her nexus card prior to ever being issued a passport.


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