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yyzvoyageur Jun 20, 2011 10:39 am


Originally Posted by simd (Post 16587279)
PS My name is not particularly interesting (nor that common or uncommon) and definitely (to the best of my knowledge) would not lead to any immediate assumptions reagrding suspicious activity of any type!

Your post makes no sense. How could one make any logical assumption about your involvement in suspicious/criminal behaviour from your name?

Derek Jun 20, 2011 10:49 am


Originally Posted by yyzvoyageur (Post 16593688)
Your post makes no sense. How could one make any logical assumption about your involvement in suspicious/criminal behaviour from your name?

If his surname was Madoff, he might get a second glance. Of course, he was implying that he should not be profiled because of his name, and one can infer he feels others are profiled because of their names. :rolleyes:

Mauricio23 Jun 20, 2011 1:30 pm


Originally Posted by B1 (Post 16592834)
The page describes how you make a written declaration when there is tax or duty to be paid and allows it to be paid without going to secondary to the cashier because you include credit card information.the box, the agent will ask what was on it. If you don't, the agent will ask about what you are bringing with you. The US has a verbal-only system.

No, it does not. It reads:

"to declare goods purchased, received or otherwise acquired, and to pay any applicable duties and taxes."

It never says "WHEN YOU EXCEED THE EXEMPTION". My reading of that page is that you always use the TDC to declare goods whether you exceeded the exemption or not, which is the same thing that NEXUS officers tell you when you apply. I understand that this may be spottily enforced at the border, but if someone decides to throw the book at you, you have no recourse. The written rules are clear, and they state that you always use a TDC.

todd-r Jun 20, 2011 1:44 pm


Originally Posted by Mauricio23 (Post 16594875)
My reading of that page is that you always use the TDC to declare goods whether you exceeded the exemption or not, which is the same thing that NEXUS officers tell you when you apply. I understand that this may be spottily enforced at the border, but if someone decides to throw the book at you, you have no recourse. The written rules are clear, and they state that you always use a TDC.


^^^

simd Jun 20, 2011 2:01 pm


Originally Posted by Derek (Post 16593759)
If his surname was Madoff, he might get a second glance. Of course, he was implying that he should not be profiled because of his name, and one can infer he feels others are profiled because of their names. :rolleyes:

My intent was to somewhat cynically point out my suspicion that profiling does occur. This does not imply that I condone this type of activity.

todd-r Jun 20, 2011 2:53 pm


Originally Posted by simd (Post 16595072)
My intent was to somewhat cynically point out my suspicion that profiling does occur.

Profiling works both ways. I have a friend who's name is very generic - like Dave Miller. He gets sent to secondary all the time as someone on the DNF list has the same name and birth date. He';s none too impressed.

Derek Jun 20, 2011 5:28 pm


Originally Posted by todd-r (Post 16595406)
Profiling works both ways. I have a friend who's name is very generic - like Dave Miller. He gets sent to secondary all the time as someone on the DNF list has the same name and birth date. He';s none too impressed.

That is not profiling, that is mistaken identity.

B1 Jun 21, 2011 6:02 pm


Originally Posted by Mauricio23 (Post 16594875)
No, it does not. It reads:

"to declare goods purchased, received or otherwise acquired, and to pay any applicable duties and taxes."

It never says "WHEN YOU EXCEED THE EXEMPTION". My reading of that page is that you always use the TDC to declare goods whether you exceeded the exemption or not, which is the same thing that NEXUS officers tell you when you apply. I understand that this may be spottily enforced at the border, but if someone decides to throw the book at you, you have no recourse. The written rules are clear, and they state that you always use a TDC.

The difference is that you may now make a verbal declaration or use the TDC. Of course it's not conditional. But the point is that the card allows you to pay without going to secondary. Before, you had no choice. Now you do. If you are under the exemption, then there's no point of submitting a card because the agent asks what is on the card. It makes sense and has been my experience. Feel free to fill out the card under all circumstances if it works for you. I've stopped doing so. Is it that the agent at NEXUS has told you that you should have filled in a card and you were within the exemption or are you assuming that is what would happen? It certainly is not what I've seen to be the case for me. The point of the notice, as I see it, is to tell you that the TDC is a useful option. But the agent still has to ask you questions and a card that claims the exemption and nothing over it will simply be ignored.

InTheAirGuy Jun 21, 2011 7:03 pm


Originally Posted by Derek (Post 16596223)
That is not profiling, that is mistaken identity.

My now 16 year old son was on the "No Fly List" for years after 9-11.

He has a very common name. Something like "Bob Smith." D'uh.

I remember once, when he was 9, and we leaving Hawaii, the "security experts" came on board the plane 3 times to check him out. He was 9. They didn't seem to get that. His name was on The List. They had to triple check him. I felt safer after that.

We were never able to check in online for years, and would get to the airport and they would have to make some mysterious phone call to mysterious people and it would always take 15 minutes plus. This went on from about 2002 to 2008 or so.

Like, d'oh - Bob Smith is checking in for a flight. It was obvious there was NO date of birth matching.

One day, Canada took over the list, and the problem seems to have gone away. it says a lot for the competence of their list.

Mauricio23 Jun 22, 2011 6:46 am


Originally Posted by B1 (Post 16602813)
Is it that the agent at NEXUS has told you that you should have filled in a card and you were within the exemption or are you assuming that is what would happen? It certainly is not what I've seen to be the case for me. The point of the notice, as I see it, is to tell you that the TDC is a useful option. But the agent still has to ask you questions and a card that claims the exemption and nothing over it will simply be ignored.

When I got my NEXUS card, the agent gave me a sample TDC and clearly said "if you buy as much as a piece of candy, you have to declare it on on of these cards, whether you are over the exemption or not. Failing to do so is grounds for removal from the program. The only exception is gas that you put in your car." That is pretty straightforward to me, and I see nothing published officially to contradict it. I'm fine if people want to play shredder roulette. I am not doing it.

B1 Jun 24, 2011 9:32 am


Originally Posted by Mauricio23 (Post 16605258)
When I got my NEXUS card, the agent gave me a sample TDC and clearly said "if you buy as much as a piece of candy, you have to declare it on on of these cards, whether you are over the exemption or not. Failing to do so is grounds for removal from the program. The only exception is gas that you put in your car." That is pretty straightforward to me, and I see nothing published officially to contradict it. I'm fine if people want to play shredder roulette. I am not doing it.

This was posted on Red Flag Deals last October and is the same as my experience.
""Hi. My family has Nexus passes and use it often to enter the US, but usually take the normal lanes back into Canada. Today we were in a rush to get back by a certain time and got out our declaration booklets and filled them out for the first time. When we got up to the officer, he informed us they no longer need the declarations now and we just need to give a verbal declaration. If we pay taxes, we'll be sent in or waved through."
Since TDC books are no longer being issued and not everyone who travels has access to a computer and printer, the verbal declaration method has to be legal in addition to the TDC method.

aviationwiz Jun 24, 2011 12:18 pm

Quick question regarding entering using Nexus when traveling with others without Nexus.

I know when traveling by car, you must all use the non-nexus lanes, but does anyone know, when entering by air, could I enter separately with Nexus and grab the car while my friend waits in line without Nexus?

Cozmo456 Jun 24, 2011 12:34 pm


Originally Posted by aviationwiz (Post 16619582)
Quick question regarding entering using Nexus when traveling with others without Nexus.

I know when traveling by car, you must all use the non-nexus lanes, but does anyone know, when entering by air, could I enter separately with Nexus and grab the car while my friend waits in line without Nexus?

Just use separate forms and make sure you take your own baggage (if checked in). I do this with my wife.

atsak Jun 24, 2011 10:38 pm


Originally Posted by aviationwiz (Post 16619582)
Quick question regarding entering using Nexus when traveling with others without Nexus.

I know when traveling by car, you must all use the non-nexus lanes, but does anyone know, when entering by air, could I enter separately with Nexus and grab the car while my friend waits in line without Nexus?

That should be fine. I have traveled with friends a few times and asked the last time; they said as long as the declarations were separate and you carried your own stuff that was OK.

Yul_voyager Jun 25, 2011 8:34 am


Originally Posted by Cozmo456 (Post 16619674)
Just use separate forms and make sure you take your own baggage (if checked in). I do this with my wife.

I have a Nexus card and I am *A Silver. I will travel on US Airways with my GF and we'll probably check-in 2 free bag with my name to avoid check-in fees.
If I carry my bag using Nexus and she takes the non-nexus lane with her bag (but with my name on the tag) would she have any problem ?


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