"Clear" Security Card
Feb 7, 2007, 1:17 pm
#32
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I registered with Clear on November 1st and am still awaiting my card. Clear has been terrific in communicating with me but tell me the hold up continues with the TSA processing. It's hard to believe that 5 years after 9/11 they still don't have their act together. Does anyone have any similar experiences?
Feb 7, 2007, 1:28 pm
#34
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Fair point.
However, your experience with CLEAR is directly in correlation with whatever the unaccountable TSA decides to do.
Steven Brill can ask or say whatever he wants to do. All the TSA has to say is "no" and Brill goes back into his corner in the fetal position.
On this board, the point of most people is this: CLEAR is simply a business is profiting over tragedy, and is the TSA's b*tch.
If you want to give you $100 annually and your permanently give your biometrics to The Government, step onto a treadmill that doesn't always work, still be subjected to secondary screening...with the only guarantee being the ability to cut in front of a few people in line -- more power to you.
Feb 12, 2007, 8:07 pm
#36
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Fair point.
However, your experience with CLEAR is directly in correlation with whatever the unaccountable TSA decides to do.
Steven Brill can ask or say whatever he wants to do. All the TSA has to say is "no" and Brill goes back into his corner in the fetal position.
On this board, the point of most people is this: CLEAR is simply a business is profiting over tragedy, and is the TSA's b*tch.
If you want to give you $100 annually and your permanently give your biometrics to The Government, step onto a treadmill that doesn't always work, still be subjected to secondary screening...with the only guarantee being the ability to cut in front of a few people in line -- more power to you.
However, your experience with CLEAR is directly in correlation with whatever the unaccountable TSA decides to do.
Steven Brill can ask or say whatever he wants to do. All the TSA has to say is "no" and Brill goes back into his corner in the fetal position.
On this board, the point of most people is this: CLEAR is simply a business is profiting over tragedy, and is the TSA's b*tch.
If you want to give you $100 annually and your permanently give your biometrics to The Government, step onto a treadmill that doesn't always work, still be subjected to secondary screening...with the only guarantee being the ability to cut in front of a few people in line -- more power to you.
And BTW, what exactly is "the government" going to do with your biometrics anyway? It is the year 2007 - come out of your nuclear bunker and realize that what "the government" wants to know about you - they will find a way to get......
Feb 12, 2007, 8:46 pm
#37
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I get out of my bunker/fallout shelter when I realize that the amount of food I kept for Y2K is running low. Also, I'm on the hunt for some new wrap for my tinfoil hat.
And when I get out, I see stories about the government losing personal data. Which seems to happen with regularity.
I let the Canadians have my information, mostly because I trust them. Also, I know the $50 I spend a year with them does not line the pockets of some ....... who tries to cash in on the result of 3,000 dead people.
Feb 13, 2007, 8:08 pm
#38
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[QUOTE=LessO2;7212381]I get out of my bunker/fallout shelter when I realize that the amount of food I kept for Y2K is running low. Also, I'm on the hunt for some new wrap for my tinfoil hat.
And when I get out, I see stories about the government losing personal data. Which seems to happen with regularity.
But what would anyone want with your fingerprint and eye scan? Most crooks don't want to clone you or recreate your fingerprint, they don't need to in order to steal your identity. I might be more worried about the airline getting your CC# stolen ....
I let the Canadians have my information, mostly because I trust them. Also, I know the $50 I spend a year with them does not line the pockets of some ....... who tries to cash in on the result of 3,000 dead people.
Are all the TSA workers guilty of cashing in on 3,000 dead people as well? I mean they reallydid get their jobs as a result of 9/11 seeing as how there was no such pink elephant as the TSA prior.
And when I get out, I see stories about the government losing personal data. Which seems to happen with regularity.
But what would anyone want with your fingerprint and eye scan? Most crooks don't want to clone you or recreate your fingerprint, they don't need to in order to steal your identity. I might be more worried about the airline getting your CC# stolen ....
I let the Canadians have my information, mostly because I trust them. Also, I know the $50 I spend a year with them does not line the pockets of some ....... who tries to cash in on the result of 3,000 dead people.
Are all the TSA workers guilty of cashing in on 3,000 dead people as well? I mean they reallydid get their jobs as a result of 9/11 seeing as how there was no such pink elephant as the TSA prior.
Feb 13, 2007, 8:59 pm
#39
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Originally Posted by allergictocoach
But what would anyone want with your fingerprint and eye scan? Most crooks don't want to clone you or recreate your fingerprint, they don't need to in order to steal your identity. I might be more worried about the airline getting your CC# stolen
Originally Posted by allergictocoach
Are all the TSA workers guilty of cashing in on 3,000 dead people as well? I mean they reallydid get their jobs as a result of 9/11 seeing as how there was no such pink elephant as the TSA prior.
We have had five years of this bureaucratic bungle. If security was actually improved, I would feel to the contrary.
As for TSAers personally, they are not responsible for the agency's inepti....er, inception.
However, I could never do a job that came about of the result of such a tragedy.
Feb 13, 2007, 10:17 pm
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I don't think the TSA/DHS qualifies as an exemption from the Privacy Act of 1974. If they needed it, after the fact, I think it is a given that they -could- obtain any SSN should they so desire.
Mar 5, 2007, 11:25 pm
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Looks like Brill is blaming TSA and TSA is saying not our fault.
I think Registered Traveler is going to cost Brill a lot before it goes down.
I think Registered Traveler is going to cost Brill a lot before it goes down.
Mar 6, 2007, 5:00 am
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My favorite quote from the article linked to in the previous post:
Meanwhile, technology deployed at the Orlando, Fla., airport that would allow passengers to keep their shoes on as they pass through security can't distinguish between metal in shoes from metal that might be used in explosives.
Mar 6, 2007, 7:42 am
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Mar 6, 2007, 5:19 pm
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My experience differs from yours. I signed up about 4 weeks ago and received my card last week, in time to try it out last Sunday for the first time at JFK (United terminal). The process was smooth, but new, for both the Clear folks and the TSA agents, but it was basically a breeze.
I didn't pay for my membership, as I took advantage of the Hyatt Diamond offer early on.
I didn't pay for my membership, as I took advantage of the Hyatt Diamond offer early on.