The dreaded "X" with Global Entry
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Detroit; Formerly Dubai
Posts: 3,652
Always get the "X" at GE Airports
I've been pulling the red X out of the GE machine repeatedly. Each time customs says that shouldn't be and lets me into the country in six seconds. I don't want to rock the boat and get my card pulled, but am wondering what happens.
I cross land borders with Canada all the time (my lifetime record was set two months ago with five border crossings in one day). I never have a problem.
What gives?
I cross land borders with Canada all the time (my lifetime record was set two months ago with five border crossings in one day). I never have a problem.
What gives?
#2
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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I've been pulling the red X out of the GE machine repeatedly. Each time customs says that shouldn't be and lets me into the country in six seconds. I don't want to rock the boat and get my card pulled, but am wondering what happens.
I cross land borders with Canada all the time (my lifetime record was set two months ago with five border crossings in one day). I never have a problem.
What gives?
I cross land borders with Canada all the time (my lifetime record was set two months ago with five border crossings in one day). I never have a problem.
What gives?
Have you tried the APC kiosks at ORD for example? I would be curious what you would get there.
#4
Join Date: May 2003
Location: At This Point, Only G*d Knows!
Posts: 3,467
While not an X, the last two times through (at two different airports) the machine crashed before I could complete the formalities.
Each time the machine would freeze and then reboot, I was unsure if I was supposed to start again or see an officer.
I erred on the side of caution and saw an Officer and each time I got something to the effect of, where is your receipt and I would reply that I do not have one as the machine stopped working before I could obtain one.
Each time the guy would look at his CPU and then call a Supervisor who would I am guessing would undo my Global Entry attempt and I would be "manually" entered into the country.
While not the same thing as a X, I am wondering why the machines always seem to crash when I use them.
Dan
Each time the machine would freeze and then reboot, I was unsure if I was supposed to start again or see an officer.
I erred on the side of caution and saw an Officer and each time I got something to the effect of, where is your receipt and I would reply that I do not have one as the machine stopped working before I could obtain one.
Each time the guy would look at his CPU and then call a Supervisor who would I am guessing would undo my Global Entry attempt and I would be "manually" entered into the country.
While not the same thing as a X, I am wondering why the machines always seem to crash when I use them.
Dan
#6
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 3
The dreaded "X" with Global Entry
I just got approved for global entry and I'd like to know how often you get an X on your slip even if you're not declaring anything. What happens then? Do they send you to secondary inspection? Do they open your bags?
Thanks
Thanks
#7
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: jfk area
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From other posts here on FT, some "X"'s are "random", and most customs related...most pax are cleared rapidly.
PS: Now if they aren't satisfied with the fingerprints they give you another attempt. In the instance where I got "X", it never got as far as asking me to verify my flt. info--it spit out an "X" slip early.
#8
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Arizona, USA
Posts: 2,403
I had it once due to a bad fingerprint read. The agents were effusively apologetic, and it took them just seconds to fix it. I'm now much more careful to make sure I wipe off the screen and get a good fingerprint read.
The rumor is that NEXUS is more likely to give you a random "selectee" status.
The rumor is that NEXUS is more likely to give you a random "selectee" status.
#9
Join Date: May 2003
Location: At This Point, Only G*d Knows!
Posts: 3,467
I had it once due to a bad fingerprint read. The agents were effusively apologetic, and it took them just seconds to fix it. I'm now much more careful to make sure I wipe off the screen and get a good fingerprint read.
The rumor is that NEXUS is more likely to give you a random "selectee" status.
The rumor is that NEXUS is more likely to give you a random "selectee" status.
Dan
#10
Join Date: May 2013
Programs: NEXUS/GE
Posts: 521
#11
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: YYZ
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...likely because people with clean records are recruited for that reason and use NEXUS for the wrong reason's. At least that's what random checks seem to have found.
#13
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: IAD
Posts: 38
i've only used GE once, at YYZ, and i got an X. i think the fingerprint scan worked. i was asked to go to a second screening room. there were a few people waiting, but i was seen right away. the officer there looked at the X and asked why i was sent there. i told him i don't know - this was the first time i had used GE.
he asked me a few questions, checked the contents of my bag, complimented how well organized it was (tom bihn brain bag with a brain cell + macbook air, and a hardback book in the one compartment; a packing cube with clothes inside + clear quarter packing cube with toiletries inside in the other compartment), and sent me on my way.
he asked me a few questions, checked the contents of my bag, complimented how well organized it was (tom bihn brain bag with a brain cell + macbook air, and a hardback book in the one compartment; a packing cube with clothes inside + clear quarter packing cube with toiletries inside in the other compartment), and sent me on my way.