zig666

Full 5 years. You'd have to update the documents once you get a new GC. I assume you won't be able to use GE during RoC/while the 2 yr card is expired, but once you get a 10 year card you should be fine.

FlyingHoustonian

yes once the two year is lifted it becomes ten on GCs. Several family members of mine had GE with a two year GC, though their GE Card expired when their GC did and once updated they got new GE cards.

However all signs still point to 5 years on GE, at least at the moment. I've heard rumours of the USG/DHS looking at ten years but very little in print about it in the public domain (that I've seen).

nach0

I was just approved to GE since I recently got my GC. I got the sticker on my foreign passport and not my GC, but did not felt like arguing with the officer. Since we are not eligible for TSA PRE, I assume that I can not put my number in my United account right? Not sure how CBP knows that I am out of the country if the do not know when I leave the country...

zig666

Having the GE-Number in my United Profile resulted in about 0% success for TSA Pre. I recently took it out and since then it has at least worked once. So I would not put it in there.

Firebug4

You are correct. Fingers were not typing what the mind meant. The new LPR card will be valid for ten years. The conditional LPR card is good for two years when you go to remove the conditional status many times CIS will give you a letter and a sticker to place on your LPR card. You should be able to then take that LPR card with the sticker to the Enrollement center and they can add the additional time that sticker gives so you should be able to continue GE even during the time you are removing that conditional status but that is down the road from now.

The short answer is Yes you can use GE as long as the document has a machince readable zone which a two year LPR card does.

I apologize for my miss type earlier. Thought process got ahead of the fingers.

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FlyingHoustonian

No worries. I was in hopes it was going to go for ten years, since that had been thrown about in some different discussion groups but I presume they are sticking with five for GE for now.

nach0

Even stranger. Was approved for GE last week and never updated my profile at United's site or typed in my passid information since I was told by the CBP officer at the interview that as a foreigner I am not allowed to use TSA PRE. I'm ok with that as I signed up for GE for international travel. Checked into my flight for tomorrow (domestic) and my boarding pass has the TSA PRE logo. Not sure how that came about...

mre5765

Same thing happened to me when I got GE. When my passport expired, the next officer insisted on the sticker on my GC.

Reports are that you will get PRE if you do. However, because it is clear we are not supposed to, consider consequences if you do. For example, it could be argued that by doing so, you are representing yourself as a U.S. citizen, which would then complicate your application for citizenship.

Did you enter your GE number in your corporate travel agencies profile?

nach0

I don't want to have any issues in the future and for that reason did not update my United profile. I really could care less about PRE as I usually get on time at the airport and got used to taking my shoes off, etc.

Nope, don't even have that and am traveling for pleasure. Haven't used that number anywhere, in fact don't even know it. i would have to go to the GOES site if I ever need it. Its very strange as even my greencard name and United name don't match. GC has two last names, while United has 1.

msmoxie

Agree! Hoping this comes soon...

alecheverry

I'm a permanent resident (NOT a citizen) and I've been able to use the pre check lanes without any problem.....just get in the lane and show your Global Entry ID card and that should suffice to get in there^

mre5765

Permanent residents who are also Canadian NEXUS holders have precheck, but permanent residency is not a factor here.

A permanent resident who enters his pass ID onto the Pre website is arguably claiming to be a US citizen, and this will jeopardize any future application for U.S. citizenship.

Of course the Pre website also says that airlines can invite their US citizen frequent flyers to use Pre. The airlines are willfully ignoring the US citizen requirement; non citizens such as yours truly have been informed that they have been added to Pre (without doing anything). Since the dragon who controls entrance to the Pre lane is often the same one controlling entrance to the non Pre lane, the non citizen who is granted Pre is arguably not claiming US citizenship since he was granted no choice in the matter (other than to cease to accrue FFer benefits which is ludricous).

So how does a GE card get you past the dragon guarding the entrance to the precheck lane?

Hyperacusis

Not at all true. Entering your Pass ID number into your airline profile is not the same as claiming that you are a US Citizen. Non citizens can have a Pass ID number, and are therefore entitled to enter it in the system. It doesn't actually do anything useful (in fact, it will actually prevent use from using PreCheck if you are a non-citizen and otherwise have PreCheck access by virtue of airline status).

787dreamer

That's true. When one applies for GE, they state that they are permanent resident on the application for GE. The TSA is not the same department as CBP. TSA simply gets the data from GE members and "sees" that the PR is not a citizen therefore denying PR PreCheck. As previously mentioned, if you don't volunteer the GE travel ID, you can try to get PreCheck as a premier status flyer. Unfortunately, my wife and I don't travel enough to get to even the lowest step on the status totem pole.

CKDGM

This makes me want the Old Spice guy to do a video on how to use the GE kiosks.