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offerendum Dec 8, 2023 4:55 am


Originally Posted by Fabo.sk (Post 35804311)
That is, I think, a general (generational?) change. I like me a tie and am not overly fond[of the change], but I do have to say, it is what it is. At least if people maintain decorum, relative to time and place, I can stay silent. Even if the move from being sent to get a tie to enter a bank to being the only one with a tie in the bank is... painful, in it's way. But then, after all, I don't own a bowtie, and it's unlikely I ever will.

That's how it is. You used to stand out in the office before 6 p.m. without a tie (you were asked if you were on holiday), but nowadays you can hardly see a tie. Even in court today, almost more lawyers don't wear a tie than do. It is what it is.....
I even have a bow tie because a dinner jacket doesn't look very good with a tie. I just don't have a practical opportunity to wear a dinner jacket anymore.

offerendum Dec 8, 2023 5:01 am

Verona
 
After the arena I made my way to the next destination, here are a few impressions.
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offerendum Dec 8, 2023 7:02 am

San Fermo Maggiore Verona
 
The destination was the church of San Fermo Maggiore.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7e34afb8cc.jpg
The facade
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First you walk through the cloister.
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There are actually 2 churches. Firstly, there is the Romanesque lower church.
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There is also the richly decorated Gothic upper church.
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JapesUK Dec 8, 2023 7:06 am

Is it odd that in a group of pictures of an ornate church my favourite bit by far are those doors?

offerendum Dec 8, 2023 7:49 am


Originally Posted by JapesUK (Post 35805689)
Is it odd that in a group of pictures of an ornate church my favourite bit by far are those doors?

That's OK. That's why I post so many photos, so there's something for everyone;)

offerendum Dec 9, 2023 9:37 am

Casa di Giulietta Verona
 
The Casa di Giulietta is an essential part of any visit to Verona. I just took a look at the inner courtyard with the balcony and the statue that you are supposed to grab the breasts of. Very crowded and not really my cup of tea.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2a785b4291.jpg
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offerendum Dec 9, 2023 9:44 am

Verona
 
A few more impressions:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f5af23d684.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...482c523f5b.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7654ebbef1.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d0aeccc306.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...76eaeb0b1d.jpg

tom tulpe Dec 9, 2023 1:52 pm


Originally Posted by offerendum (Post 35804159)
I definitely have to go to a performance. I think the style has changed a lot in the last few years. If you see photos of arenas from the 90s or earlier, you'll hardly see a man without a suit and tie. In current reports, however, you don't see any men wearing a tie.

That's just the reserved seating. I watched quite a few opera performances there in the late 1980s and the seconda gradinata was very popolare. Tickets were a very reasonable ITL 15,000, which is about € 7.50 in today's money. People would sing along and all that. No ties, but of course lots of Italians who would be dressed nicely, just not in formal wear. Because of the open seating, you would come as early as possible to get a good place to sit.

Then vendors would appear offering seat cushions. At first you'd laugh, but several hours sitting on stone, with no seats, backrests or anything, would test most bums' pain tolerance, and on every pass the seat cushion vendor would find thankful new clients.

offerendum Dec 9, 2023 2:12 pm


Originally Posted by tom tulpe (Post 35809297)
That's just the reserved seating. I watched quite a few opera performances there in the late 1980s and the seconda gradinata was very popolare. Tickets were a very reasonable ITL 15,000, which is about € 7.50 in today's money. People would sing along and all that. No ties, but of course lots of Italians who would be dressed nicely, just not in formal wear. Because of the open seating, you would come as early as possible to get a good place to sit.

Then vendors would appear offering seat cushions. At first you'd laugh, but several hours sitting on stone, with no seats, backrests or anything, would test most bums' pain tolerance, and on every pass the seat cushion vendor would find thankful new clients.

I think I'm more the reserved seating type😉

offerendum Dec 9, 2023 4:43 pm

Piazza delle Erbe Verona
 
Piazza delle Erbe is the main square in Verona, and during my visit there was a market going on. There are a number of beautiful houses.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...6f951d0172.jpg
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offerendum Dec 10, 2023 4:44 am

Sant’Anastasia Verona
 
The next church was Sant'Anastasia. The brick church, begun in the 13th century, is richly decorated with some important paintings.
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offerendum Dec 10, 2023 10:33 am

Verona Cathedral Complex
 
Today it's church-orientated. The Verona cathedral complex consists of several buildings. Here is the exterior view.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2401a499d9.jpg
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The Baptistery San Giovanni in Fonte.
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The canons' church of Sant' Elena.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...06007d899c.jpg
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And the Cathedral of Santa Maria Matricolare
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offerendum Dec 12, 2023 5:00 pm

Piazza dei Signori Verona
 
The Piazza dei Signori in the direct neighbourhood of the Piazza delle Erbe is much smaller, but still very beautiful.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...375c567b86.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...90e35cf1cc.jpg
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https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7f4315f4d0.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8af1d2a106.jpg

xooz Dec 12, 2023 5:16 pm

Is it time for gelato yet??!!

offerendum Dec 12, 2023 5:20 pm


Originally Posted by xooz (Post 35817729)
Is it time for gelato yet??!!

Hard this time. One is coming later. Verona has a famous Gelateria, but it would have been a 45 minutes detour.So only one unfortunately.


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