Our week in Ireland via Air France La Première
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SO777 – kudos to you, you are the only person I can think of who would fly La Premiere to visit Ireland
As an Irishman myself I was nervous pre-reading as to whether the local hotels and restaurants would be able to deliver to your expectations, and I am really pleased to see that in the main it has done (Ashford Castle aside). We have a small population and not the most substantial culinary tradition but I think there is some great hospitality to be had in the country, some of it genuinely world class.
For anyone else reading and feeling inspired the Wild Atlantic Way is worth researching – a recent tourism initiative, on paper it was no more than adding some signage to the existing road network to point the way, but in practice it has made navigating that route extremely easy (the roads are often small/basic, and we don’t always go in for detailed directions in Ireland!) and has sparked the set-up of lots of little new hospitality operations along the coast, to complement existing attractions. Best experience by driving (as some have suggested above), it is highly recommended.
As an Irishman myself I was nervous pre-reading as to whether the local hotels and restaurants would be able to deliver to your expectations, and I am really pleased to see that in the main it has done (Ashford Castle aside). We have a small population and not the most substantial culinary tradition but I think there is some great hospitality to be had in the country, some of it genuinely world class.
For anyone else reading and feeling inspired the Wild Atlantic Way is worth researching – a recent tourism initiative, on paper it was no more than adding some signage to the existing road network to point the way, but in practice it has made navigating that route extremely easy (the roads are often small/basic, and we don’t always go in for detailed directions in Ireland!) and has sparked the set-up of lots of little new hospitality operations along the coast, to complement existing attractions. Best experience by driving (as some have suggested above), it is highly recommended.
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Wow. I can not believe Ashford Castle let you down so badly. I have stayed here a few times and found it exceptional. You have had so many service failures it is hard to excuse.
I am surprised you missed a trick in Adare. There is a fabulous hotel there with stunning food and surrounds. http://www.adaremanor.com/
I am surprised you missed a trick in Adare. There is a fabulous hotel there with stunning food and surrounds. http://www.adaremanor.com/
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As an Irishman myself I was nervous pre-reading as to whether the local hotels and restaurants would be able to deliver to your expectations, and I am really pleased to see that in the main it has done (Ashford Castle aside). We have a small population and not the most substantial culinary tradition but I think there is some great hospitality to be had in the country, some of it genuinely world class.
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We are currently thinking about a trip to Ireland (I can't say planning, because if I took every trip I planned, I'd never work). Would you be willing to share any of your favorites along your preferred route around the island? It doesn't have to be high end at all, authenticity preferred over anything else. We eat our lobster out of hot dog buns off of paper plates here in Maine.
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We are currently thinking about a trip to Ireland (I can't say planning, because if I took every trip I planned, I'd never work). Would you be willing to share any of your favorites along your preferred route around the island? It doesn't have to be high end at all, authenticity preferred over anything else. We eat our lobster out of hot dog buns off of paper plates here in Maine.
I grew up on the west coast, Galway is a small city but a great atmosphere where the pubs seem to not close. Westport is a small town near connemara & Achill island.
Killarney like SO77 would also be on my list same as going north to Donegal.
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We are currently thinking about a trip to Ireland (I can't say planning, because if I took every trip I planned, I'd never work). Would you be willing to share any of your favorites along your preferred route around the island? It doesn't have to be high end at all, authenticity preferred over anything else. We eat our lobster out of hot dog buns off of paper plates here in Maine.
Sorry to hijack your thread SFO777 great trip report by the way!
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Thanks very much Thor3.
The true Irish experience is to hit the road and stop off in various places. The Dingle area being one of them. Stay in a hotel in town and try the various restaurants/pubs where the locals go. This should follow driving and walking around the coast. Great TR but seems to miss the true Irish experience, the true feel for Ireland is far from luxury castles and their grounds.
SFO777 Another great TR. ( So what's new ? ) Your photographs of scenes show an eye for composition & lighting.
I wonder if you let Ashford management know how much room they have before they excel !
BTW : A request, in such cases may we suggest the Princess write the report ?
We want more laughs too (me thinks she has a way with words).
I wonder if you let Ashford management know how much room they have before they excel !
BTW : A request, in such cases may we suggest the Princess write the report ?
We want more laughs too (me thinks she has a way with words).
SO777 – kudos to you, you are the only person I can think of who would fly La Premiere to visit Ireland
As an Irishman myself I was nervous pre-reading as to whether the local hotels and restaurants would be able to deliver to your expectations, and I am really pleased to see that in the main it has done (Ashford Castle aside). We have a small population and not the most substantial culinary tradition but I think there is some great hospitality to be had in the country, some of it genuinely world class.
For anyone else reading and feeling inspired the Wild Atlantic Way is worth researching – a recent tourism initiative, on paper it was no more than adding some signage to the existing road network to point the way, but in practice it has made navigating that route extremely easy (the roads are often small/basic, and we don’t always go in for detailed directions in Ireland!) and has sparked the set-up of lots of little new hospitality operations along the coast, to complement existing attractions. Best experience by driving (as some have suggested above),
it is highly recommended.
As an Irishman myself I was nervous pre-reading as to whether the local hotels and restaurants would be able to deliver to your expectations, and I am really pleased to see that in the main it has done (Ashford Castle aside). We have a small population and not the most substantial culinary tradition but I think there is some great hospitality to be had in the country, some of it genuinely world class.
For anyone else reading and feeling inspired the Wild Atlantic Way is worth researching – a recent tourism initiative, on paper it was no more than adding some signage to the existing road network to point the way, but in practice it has made navigating that route extremely easy (the roads are often small/basic, and we don’t always go in for detailed directions in Ireland!) and has sparked the set-up of lots of little new hospitality operations along the coast, to complement existing attractions. Best experience by driving (as some have suggested above),
it is highly recommended.
Wow. I can not believe Ashford Castle let you down so badly. I have stayed here a few times and found it exceptional. You have had so many service failures it is hard to excuse. I am surprised you missed a trick in Adare. There is a fabulous hotel there with stunning food and surrounds. http://www.adaremanor.com/
We are currently thinking about a trip to Ireland (I can't say planning, because if I took every trip I planned, I'd never work). Would you be willing to share any of your favorites along your preferred route around the island? It doesn't have to be high end at all, authenticity preferred over anything else. We eat our lobster out of hot dog buns off of paper plates here in Maine.
Indeed, is there any other way?
You could spend a year in Ireland and not do everything. Stick to the coast to get the best of Ireland. I grew up on the west coast, Galway is a small city but a great atmosphere where the pubs seem to not close. Westport is a small town near connemara & Achill island.
Killarney like SFO77 would also be on my list same as going north to Donegal.
Killarney like SFO77 would also be on my list same as going north to Donegal.
Thank you DEK. It's hard to beat fresh Maine lobster in Maine.
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Off to Dublin
Getaway day from Ashford Castle and one last look out our window before a civilized 10:30am departure.
Our wonderful driver Patrick, promptly there to pick us up at "Ten Torrty".
One last look at Cong as we head for the 2.5 hour drive to Dublin.
We hit the burbs around 12:30p and Patrick suggested lunch at The K Club, which hosted the Irish Open this year. Beautiful grounds and hotel...
... But the food, not so much.
Ugh.
With no plans today, someone suggested The Guinness Storehouse. Interesting to see even if you aren't into Guinness. But Sunday afternoon is probably not the smartest time to go.
Mrs. SFO777 with a Guinness for the photo op only. One sip was enough.
After the Guinness experience, a 20 minute ride to our hotel for the night past cool looking parts of Dublin.
To our hotel for the night, The Shelbourne.
Other than the bar, a pretty ugly hotel. I didn't even take room pics. Mrs. SFO777's quip was "We're staying in a hostel". LOL.
Just after 7pm, we headed up the street and around the corner to a real gem of a restaurant, Shanahan's. Outstanding service and great food.
Great bread.
But the size of the servings was astounding. OK, one main could have fed the entire table.
Our desserts were incredible including one of the best Key Lime pies ever.
And back to the hotel before our 6:15am pick up.
For more pics and an HD version of this report, please visit SFO777.com.
Just posted the next installments SFO777.com
• US PreClearance Lounge at DUB
• American Airlines Business Class to JFK
• AA cancels our JFK-LAX flight and we are downgraded to Business
Will post to FT as soon as possible.
Getaway day from Ashford Castle and one last look out our window before a civilized 10:30am departure.
Our wonderful driver Patrick, promptly there to pick us up at "Ten Torrty".
One last look at Cong as we head for the 2.5 hour drive to Dublin.
We hit the burbs around 12:30p and Patrick suggested lunch at The K Club, which hosted the Irish Open this year. Beautiful grounds and hotel...
... But the food, not so much.
Ugh.
With no plans today, someone suggested The Guinness Storehouse. Interesting to see even if you aren't into Guinness. But Sunday afternoon is probably not the smartest time to go.
Mrs. SFO777 with a Guinness for the photo op only. One sip was enough.
After the Guinness experience, a 20 minute ride to our hotel for the night past cool looking parts of Dublin.
To our hotel for the night, The Shelbourne.
Other than the bar, a pretty ugly hotel. I didn't even take room pics. Mrs. SFO777's quip was "We're staying in a hostel". LOL.
Just after 7pm, we headed up the street and around the corner to a real gem of a restaurant, Shanahan's. Outstanding service and great food.
Great bread.
But the size of the servings was astounding. OK, one main could have fed the entire table.
Our desserts were incredible including one of the best Key Lime pies ever.
And back to the hotel before our 6:15am pick up.
For more pics and an HD version of this report, please visit SFO777.com.
Just posted the next installments SFO777.com
• US PreClearance Lounge at DUB
• American Airlines Business Class to JFK
• AA cancels our JFK-LAX flight and we are downgraded to Business
Will post to FT as soon as possible.
Last edited by SFO777; Sep 8, 2016 at 6:48 am
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• AA cancels our JFK-LAX flight and we are downgraded to Business
Will post to FT as soon as possible.
Also, two consecutive flights in business, hopefully Mrs. SFO777 is not currently pricing out LAX-DUB private jet flight costs!
Great report as always.
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Other than adding AA to her now ever growing "no fly" list, one of the better ones was "... only Lufthansa or Air France (to Europe) from now on..".
Thanks TheBOSman.
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The K Club grounds look fantastic!
Was the tour of the Guinness factory just follow a route or was it properly conducted tours with a guide? The place seems massive, much bigger than the Budwiser Brewery I visited in St. Louis.
LOL at the Stag guys on the truck thing. A lot of people are put off going to Dublin these days because of the amount of Stag/Hen do's heading there. Hotels seem to be trying to counteract having them in their premises by restricting the number of rooms that can be booked by one party.
Was the tour of the Guinness factory just follow a route or was it properly conducted tours with a guide? The place seems massive, much bigger than the Budwiser Brewery I visited in St. Louis.
LOL at the Stag guys on the truck thing. A lot of people are put off going to Dublin these days because of the amount of Stag/Hen do's heading there. Hotels seem to be trying to counteract having them in their premises by restricting the number of rooms that can be booked by one party.
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It's sad, though, because it means a giant, majestic castle doesn't provide the experience that its appearance suggests. And in this category, you can't get angry, reproduce it and implement higher service standards. There's only one Ashford Castle.
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After seeing some of your pics, Alitalia might serve a better meal in business class than Ashford Castle does on the ground Man that's a real shame, but the rest of the trip looked awesome. I really want to plan a couple of nights at Ballyfin when we go to Ireland.