What jobs / careers require or involve travel? (merged 2014+)
Jul 21, 2014, 2:02 pm
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I was one for five years and even at the time found people who would universally condemn a group of some of the smartest young professionals in the world a bit lame.
Jul 21, 2014, 2:03 pm
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Jul 21, 2014, 4:48 pm
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They pay experienced consultants that much. But I've spend my career either as an employee in one of those big companies or as a consultant to them. I've never seen one paying inexperienced consultants that kind of money.
Jul 21, 2014, 5:37 pm
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A doc I know lives in CO, but he travels all over the country. He flies out, does 2, 12 hour shifts, 1 day off, another 2 12 hour shifts and then flies home for a week. He basically works 8 shifts a month. It's part time, but its always in a diff place, earned his status on everything and its good money!
Jul 22, 2014, 2:20 pm
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PhD students in Computer Science present their research at conferences. I've been to Europe, Asia, and all over North America because of this. It's seen as a fringe benefit.
In fact, when I asked one of my friends who had his doctorate if he had advice for me when I entered grad school, he made a very serious face and proclaimed: "There are two rules for success in grad school: ONE AIRLINE ALLIANCE. ONE HOTEL CHAIN."
In fact, when I asked one of my friends who had his doctorate if he had advice for me when I entered grad school, he made a very serious face and proclaimed: "There are two rules for success in grad school: ONE AIRLINE ALLIANCE. ONE HOTEL CHAIN."
Jul 22, 2014, 2:53 pm
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Define inexperienced, $2K a day plus expenses is the going rate for any "senior consultant". So basically day one after getting an MBA, any of the big firms will charge that rate for any of their people. It doesn't mean that they have a ton of experience and may still be in their 20's after getting the MBA.
Jul 22, 2014, 3:13 pm
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My experience in the tech world, the consultants were more likely to have top tier hotel status, and the sales team was more likely to have top tier with the airlines. The former travel 1 trip a week and stay 3-5 nights. The latter would take multiple trips, but usually stay 1 night or even 0.
Jul 22, 2014, 3:24 pm
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Define inexperienced, $2K a day plus expenses is the going rate for any "senior consultant". So basically day one after getting an MBA, any of the big firms will charge that rate for any of their people. It doesn't mean that they have a ton of experience and may still be in their 20's after getting the MBA.
In my industry, a senior consultant has about 6-7 years experience and bills out significantly higher than $250/hour (that's analyst or junior consultant territory).
In the IT industry (e.g., Accenture), $250/hour for sr consultant is probably more accurate, maybe even top of the range.
Then again, we typically don't have armies of consultants descend upon a client billing out at $100-150/hour. Rather, we're more specialized and bill out accordingly.
Jul 23, 2014, 1:55 am
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20 years in the airline industry has taught me a number of things, one of them the following: Those who can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, consult.
In my opinion, consultants is the biggest waste of time and money you can find. Paying someone to borrow your watch and tell you what the time is? No thanks.
In my opinion, consultants is the biggest waste of time and money you can find. Paying someone to borrow your watch and tell you what the time is? No thanks.
Jul 23, 2014, 2:35 am
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Jul 23, 2014, 3:41 am
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Your new McKinsey Business Analyst will typically go for about $3K (depending on the market) per day. A fresh MBA would be more like $4K. Obviously your Accenture type places will be quite a bit cheaper, depending on what it is they're doing.
Jul 23, 2014, 9:38 am
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We lack the internal knowledge as to how to do this effectively - We could probably stumble through it, but would probably make mistakes.
Without consultants, how would you suggest we get this done in a timely fashion?