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mAArk Jan 11, 2005 7:05 pm


Originally Posted by wrigleyville
I have the same problem. ExpertFlyer pulls up a trip I booked through AA, but not my corporate PNRs available on Virtually There. My travel office has had a standard "password" for everyone's PNRs for several years, so maybe there would be some way we could type that in to get the PNRs displayed. But since Virtually There is owned by Sabre, they may not want to allow this.

Too bad about the TA-booked travel, that accounts for 45 of the 50 trips I take a year.

In the past I have got into virtually there to see bookings made by my corporate TA buy putting in my corp email address when I got that prompt.
In my case I have several aliases for my corp email and I had to guess which one they were using.

Crazy4Birds Jan 11, 2005 8:04 pm


Originally Posted by flyastrojets
I'm starting to think this new tool is a curse.... now that I can, I check X availability, I am checking it once an hour to "guess" if our upgrades will clear for Saturday morning. :D

Tell me about it! This morning, my email UPG notification hadn't come through 96 hours before a lax-JFK transcon that had been showing J7. So I checked R class on ExpertFlyer and see R7. A quick call to the EXP desk , where they tell me that my upgrades are now showing as having come through, so I didn't get a chance to say 'but that flight shows R7!!!' :p

It's an addictive site, though it's depressing to see some of my future flights as F0 already...

MJonTravel Jan 12, 2005 7:06 am

So, our flight to MIA has been sitting at X1 since the 100 hour EXP window. PLT window rolls around, and no upgrade, but still at X1. There are 2 of us. I kept checking, and around 8am, it went to X3. A quick look at AA.com still had lady astrojets and me in Y. Got on the phone and hit the upgrade phone system, and got the magic words "your upgrade is confirmed."

Not saying that it wouldn't have happened on its own, as our requests were in for several weeks. But I have to say that I like expertflyer a lot!!!!

pb9997 Jan 12, 2005 7:38 am

Once a PNR is purchased and ticketed such a comment appears :

TKTED PQ DELETED AND PLACED INTO HISTORY

Anyone understand what it means ? And, in AA.com the routing still is TICKETED, not deleted :D .

MJonTravel Jan 12, 2005 8:00 am


Originally Posted by pb9997
Once a PNR is purchased and ticketed such a comment appears :

TKTED PQ DELETED AND PLACED INTO HISTORY

Anyone understand what it means ? And, in AA.com the routing still is TICKETED, not deleted :D .

I'd have to see it to give you a for sure answer. Is this a purchased, but yet to be traveled itin? Was there a price change between when you booked it and ultimately ticketed the reservation?

PQ = Price Quote. When a res is booked in sabre, the agent (or aa.com) has to first "sell" the segments, and then price them. When they're priced, the pricing information is then stored to await ticketing.

Now I'm guessing....

Once ticketed at whatever fare, the PQ goes into the history of the PNR.

It's all kind of fuzzy now, even though it wasn't that long ago. :D

JDiver Jan 12, 2005 8:00 am

I've booked AA awards on FJ.


Originally Posted by joelfreak
Well, it's an AA award, so its either AA metal or QF metal...unless I am missing something.


pb9997 Jan 12, 2005 8:47 am


Originally Posted by flyastrojets
I'd have to see it to give you a for sure answer. Is this a purchased, but yet to be traveled itin? Was there a price change between when you booked it and ultimately ticketed the reservation?

PQ = Price Quote. When a res is booked in sabre, the agent (or aa.com) has to first "sell" the segments, and then price them. When they're priced, the pricing information is then stored to await ticketing.

Now I'm guessing....

Once ticketed at whatever fare, the PQ goes into the history of the PNR.

It's all kind of fuzzy now, even though it wasn't that long ago. :D

Appreciate your swift answer.

It's booked and purchased entirely through AA.com and yet to be travelled. A vanilla booking, no changes, no further requests.
(Once I start travelling an itin I've no further access to that PNR).

Your answer seems on spot. They deleted the Price Quote because it was not necessary any more, yet the itin is ticketed and valid. Thanks for your info.

alexwuk Jan 12, 2005 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by Crazy4Birds
Tell me about it! This morning, my email UPG notification hadn't come through 96 hours before a lax-JFK transcon that had been showing J7. So I checked R class on ExpertFlyer and see R7. A quick call to the EXP desk , where they tell me that my upgrades are now showing as having come through, so I didn't get a chance to say 'but that flight shows R7!!!' :p

It's an addictive site, though it's depressing to see some of my future flights as F0 already...

FYI: EXP upgrades still come from the C Class fare bucket; the proposed change to the R bucket was shelved.

Alex

inlanikai Jan 12, 2005 2:07 pm


Originally Posted by alexwuk
FYI: EXP upgrades still come from the C Class fare bucket; the proposed change to the R bucket was shelved.

Alex

The EXP eVP and mileage upgrades into C are for domestic and int'l flights. The e-upgrades (i.e. 500 mile sticker) upgrades are still into R for domestic flights. You are correct that there was a move to harmonize the two which has been shelved.

ajacpril Jan 12, 2005 7:02 pm

I think the dom e-upgrades are in 'X' and not 'R'. All my BPs show X for upgraded flights.


Originally Posted by inlanikai
The EXP eVP and mileage upgrades into C are for domestic and int'l flights. The e-upgrades (i.e. 500 mile sticker) upgrades are still into R for domestic flights. You are correct that there was a move to harmonize the two which has been shelved.


tismfu Jan 12, 2005 8:05 pm


Originally Posted by ajacpril
I think the dom e-upgrades are in 'X' and not 'R'. All my BPs show X for upgraded flights.

R is for Y to Business upgrades on three-class flights using 500-mile e-upgrades.

inlanikai Jan 12, 2005 8:13 pm


Originally Posted by ajacpril
I think the dom e-upgrades are in 'X' and not 'R'. All my BPs show X for upgraded flights.

I should have qualified that I was talking about 3-class flights only which is what the context of my post was about regarding Crazy4Birds post. You are right that in 2-class, coach to first pulls from X.

Rasalon Jan 13, 2005 10:09 am


Originally Posted by tismfu
R is for Y to Business upgrades on three-class flights using 500-mile e-upgrades.

I keep seeing conflicting information on this. Can somebody please correct my chart below, as I am now confused:

International:
eVIP upgrade J to F: X fare code
Mileage upgrade J to F: A fare code
eVIP upgrade Y to J: R fare code
Mileage upgrade Y to J: C fare code

Domestic 3-class:
eVIP upgrade J to F: X fare code
Sticker upgrade J to F: A fare code
Mileage upgrade J to F: A fare code
eVIP upgrade Y to J: R fare code
Sticker upgrade Y to J: C fare code
Mileage upgrade Y to J: C fare code

Domestic 2-class:
eVIP upgrade Y to F: X fare code
Sticker upgrade Y to F: X fare code
Mileage upgrade Y to F: A fare code

What is incorrect in the above table? I keep seeing messages say the R fare bucket is for more than just eVIP J to F upgrades.

tt7 Jan 13, 2005 12:37 pm

International:
eVIP upgrade J to F: X fare code ... not sure but I would think this is A?
Mileage upgrade J to F: A fare code
eVIP upgrade Y to J: R fare code .... is C
Mileage upgrade Y to J: C fare code

Domestic 3-class:
eVIP upgrade J to F: X fare code .... not sure - A?
Sticker upgrade J to F: A fare code .... not sure - X"
Mileage upgrade J to F: A fare code
eVIP upgrade Y to J: R fare code .... not sure - C?
Sticker upgrade Y to J: C fare code .... is R
Mileage upgrade Y to J: C fare code ... not sure - D?

Domestic 2-class:
eVIP upgrade Y to F: X fare code .... is A
Sticker upgrade Y to F: X fare code
Mileage upgrade Y to F: A fare code


I don't normally fly domestic 3 class flights or upgrade J -> F internationally so I'm a bit vague on those .... others can no doubt correct. As a general rule, I think sticker upgrades always come out of their own class (X and R) and eVP and mileage upgrades came out of the same class (for now), which is a different class than sticker upgrades.

flipside Jan 13, 2005 12:54 pm

EXP's REALLY do get expanded award availability..

I was trying to book a J award GIG-MIA-GIG and expertflyer and smile's tool had no U on the day I wanted (but strangely enough they had plenty of "C").. I called up and it was available.


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