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Originally Posted by Toshbaf
(Post 29262301)
I posted about taking my luggage because there's a small chance that I'd do that. I'm not stupid and would leave it behind in many cases.
If there's smoke in the cabin, no way am I standing up. Ditto if there if fire outside or pouring smoke. There wouldn't be too many cases where they inflate the slides but it's not too major. Some examples, include Southwest Airlines 737 nose wheel collapses at LGA. Slides deployed. No fire or smoke. Why not save your luggage? Southwest Airlines 737 overrun accident at BUR. Slides deployed. No fire or smoke. On the other hand, I would run for my life when Black smoke pouring out of an engine of a British Airways 777 at LAS. Fuselage broken open and flames in the cabin of an Air France A340 after a rough landing and overrun of the runway at YYZ. No airline wants to say it's ok to get luggage for legal reasons. I would err on the side of leaving luggage if not sure. If someone is getting their stuff out of the overhead bin in front of me, you're going to get trampled. |
Originally Posted by Badenoch
(Post 29262393)
You don't get to decide what is serious or not in the moment. If the order to evacuate is given follow it. You will not delay my departure pissing around with your stuff. You will be moved aside.
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Originally Posted by KDS777
(Post 29262504)
And you can most likely and very easily get some replacement meds from EMS wherever you are.
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It seems to me the people in this thread talking about trampling or otherwise moving others by force without regard for the severity of the emergency are more the problem than those opting to remove their luggage based on the situation. I wonder if these are the same people that complain about in flight drink limits or suggest those with anxiety get hopped up on Xanax. Seems a bit hypocritical.
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Originally Posted by kb9522
(Post 29262799)
It seems to me the people in this thread talking about trampling or otherwise moving others by force without regard for the severity of the emergency are more the problem than those opting to remove their luggage based on the situation. I wonder if these are the same people that complain about in flight drink limits or suggest those with anxiety get hopped up on Xanax. Seems a bit hypocritical.
People trying (entirely reasonably) to get off the plane don't know that you magically know that you'll be able to take the time to get your luggage and then leave the plane with there still being enough time to safely leave. Those that act aggressively in such a situation may be part of the problem, but those that block aisles are at least as much to blame, if not more. If there isn't anyone blocking the way off the plane, then there won't be the motivation for those actually following directions to get frustrated and aggressive. Even if you do have some magical way of knowing how long you have to get off the plane, which you don't, others don't know that and therefore there may be physical disputes. It isn't rocket science. If you're told to get off the plane, get of the ferkin' plane. Without delay. Anything else is simply plain stupid.
Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
(Post 29261434)
Second this. If I have to leave my luggage I would have serious doubts about whether I would ever see the expensive stuff in it, or compensation for that stuff it was destroyed.
EDIT: Oh, and there's a simple solution for those who believe that magically know that it's fully safe to fetch luggage from the overheads before leaving. Simply let others off the plane, and when the aisles are empty, then fetch your luggage from the overheads and leave. If it's not safe to do that, then it's not safe for others if you fetch your luggage from the overheads while others are trying to leave the plane. |
Originally Posted by OccasionalFlyerPerson
(Post 29262885)
I disagree. Passengers on a plane don't know what is going on outside the cabin. One thing I did before a world trip recently was to read up about plane crashes. One thing that was pointed out several times is that it might look like everything's OK, but there is a fire on the plane which is not immediately obvious. And the time between smoke being noticed and death can be an incredibly short time.
People trying (entirely reasonably) to get off the plane don't know that you magically know that you'll be able to take the time to get your luggage and then leave the plane with there still being enough time to safely leave. Those that act aggressively in such a situation may be part of the problem, but those that block aisles are at least as much to blame, if not more. If there isn't anyone blocking the way off the plane, then there won't be the motivation for those actually following directions to get frustrated and aggressive. Even if you do have some magical way of knowing how long you have to get off the plane, which you don't, others don't know that and therefore there may be physical disputes. It isn't rocket science. If you're told to get off the plane, get of the ferkin' plane. Without delay. Anything else is simply plain stupid. <sarcasm>Which of course is so much more important than your life and the lives of other people on the plane.</sarcasm> EDIT: Oh, and there's a simple solution for those who believe that magically know that it's fully safe to fetch luggage from the overheads before leaving. Simply let others off the plane, and when the aisles are empty, then fetch your luggage from the overheads and leave. If it's not safe to do that, then it's not safe for others if you fetch your luggage from the overheads while others are trying to leave the plane. |
Just a thought, but having watched how quickly they send people down those slides, I really do not want the person in front of me carrying luggage that I am going to land on, or the person behind me sending down their luggage that is going to bang me on my head.
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Originally Posted by tatterdema
(Post 29262997)
Just a thought, but having watched how quickly they send people down those slides, I really do not want the person in front of me carrying luggage that I am going to land on, or the person behind me sending down their luggage that is going to bang me on my head.
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Originally Posted by CarolynUK
(Post 29261352)
That’s one of the problems with allowing so much carry on baggage - passengers have all their belongings in the cabin with them, and don’t realise that the few seconds it takes them to grab their bags is the difference between life and death for those behind them.
safety briefings should emphasis the fact that carry on bags should be left strictly alone in an emergency evacuation -get yourself out quickly and safely, and allow others to do the same |
Great question!!
I fly with my small dog under the seat in front of me. So it might look like I'm grabbing a bag and it's really my dog. So I'd ask all y'all to be alert to those with small animals in carriers. Which begs the question: should I take him out? It would be more cumbersome to do that than just grab the bag. |
Originally Posted by OccasionalFlyerPerson
(Post 29262885)
Oh, and there's a simple solution for those who believe that magically know that it's fully safe to fetch luggage from the overheads before leaving. Simply let others off the plane, and when the aisles are empty, then fetch your luggage from the overheads and leave. If it's not safe to do that, then it's not safe for others if you fetch your luggage from the overheads while others are trying to leave the plane.
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Originally Posted by Ca77andra
(Post 29263160)
Great question!!
I fly with my small dog under the seat in front of me. So it might look like I'm grabbing a bag and it's really my dog. So I'd ask all y'all to be alert to those with small animals in carriers. Which begs the question: should I take him out? It would be more cumbersome to do that than just grab the bag. |
Originally Posted by Ca77andra
(Post 29263160)
Great question!!
I fly with my small dog under the seat in front of me. So it might look like I'm grabbing a bag and it's really my dog. So I'd ask all y'all to be alert to those with small animals in carriers. Which begs the question: should I take him out? It would be more cumbersome to do that than just grab the bag. |
People who try to get bags during emergency evacuations should be prosecuted.
It should be part of the safety briefing, just like announcements about smoking penalties: anybody who opens an overhead or carries a bag during an emergency evacuation will be charged with felony reckless endangerment. |
Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 29263209)
The life of your pet is not of equal value to the lives of the other human beings on the plane. There is no "unless you have a pet" exception to "leave all carry-on behind."
As to whether an animals life is less “value” as to a humans. There are plenty of examples where humans activity on board (in none emergency situation) makes me love my dog even more. |
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